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Jesus (A.S.) In Islam
Replies: 69Last Post Oct. 17, 2008 7:05pm by charmgirl
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stop saying A.S. and P.B.U.H. your not offending anyone by omitting it
its fucking fucking stupid stop it i could hardly concentrate on the post

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Quote: from Ice Hand at 3:58 pm on Oct. 15, 2008

I'd say anyone who's convinced by your efforts so far is a moron.

Ok, I now know your reasons for your faith. Now tell me why I should convert. I happen to like my hedonistic lifestyle. I enjoy fucking my girlfriend every night, drinking unhealthy quantities of alcohol and eating anything I want. Why should I change?


Perfection.Above all, its your choice.Your intellect is what made you come here in the first place.So you chose a lifestyle which satisfy your needs,something that makes you free and happy.I believe you do want something that is worthy your intellect.Isn't this good enough? Why don't you try?
Besides,I'm free because i even chose to wear scarf though i don't need to and nobody forced me to do so,you can say I'm a bit stubborn myself but i pray to Allah now to forgive me for the sins i did without knowing they were sins.


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Quote: from Catacomb at 4:06 pm on Oct. 15, 2008

stop saying A.S. and P.B.U.H. your not offending anyone by omitting it  
its fucking fucking stupid stop it i could hardly concentrate on the post

Its Religious and i have to say it (To praise God) and also I'm used to it,so Whatever!


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Sorry, but Islam doesn't suit my lifestyle. I need freedom, not perfection. I choose to live my life according to my own decisions and understandings rather than relying on those in a 1400 year old book orated by a crazy old guy.

So do you consider my opinion to be inferior because it differs from your holy book?

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Islam is a Life Style itself.Your opinion is not inferior but its a normal opinion as you don't believe.

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Perfection in my opinion means, Having a life that fits  your thoughts ,decisions and morals.Religion teaches morals to people who just don't care about anything but Desire.

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Quote: from charmgirl at 2:32 pm on Oct. 15, 2008

Perfection in my opinion means, Having a life that fits your thoughts ,decisions and morals.

So you think anyone, even a murderous atheist, can be as perfect as God?

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God has the power to do anything if he just says Be,then its done.
we don't.we'll never be even an inch closer to How powerful and wise God is.just because God trust us -Muslims- to deliver Islam's Teachings,doesn't mean that I'm God,Goddess or whatever.This is just plain and randomly stupid.I'm just a normal follower of Muhammad's Message.The Last Message and The Last Religion which has been revealed from Heaven/sky by God's will.

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Quote: from charmgirl at 4:14 pm on Oct. 15, 2008

Quote: from Catacomb at 4:06 pm on Oct. 15, 2008

stop saying A.S. and P.B.U.H. your not offending anyone by omitting it
 its fucking fucking stupid stop it i could hardly concentrate on the post

Its Religious and i have to say it (To praise God) and also I'm used to it,so Whatever!



okay. sheep.

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get a life,please

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Quote: from charmgirl at 8:32 am on Oct. 15, 2008

I know what your asking.I can't make up reasons out of nothing just to convince you.And Religions without Holy books are fake because that makes sense to me.If i didn't convince you,i already convinced other people.

It's not about convincing me. It's about objective reasoning. Why, without saying "because the Qu'ran says!" do you find Islam to be a more valid religion than any other?

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Women and Men in Islam are equal.There's no difference nor is there a disrespect for each other.

Bible says that God is in 3 bodies but has one soul?? does this even make sense??

I also see Christians going to church,lighting a candle and then  their sins are gone..And guess what they confess their sins to God through a Priest which by the way is a human being himself.That's what i mean by Equality in Islam.

There's nothing "between" confessing our sins to God.

Law in Islam is based on Morals,Good,Right,etc..

We choose Life path/style ,yet Fate does exist,don't ask me how,its a divine secret and i myself wonder about that.But,at the end i always feel peaceful because though I'm following a Specific Religious Message/Rules,i still can be free and make my own decisions.

Like choosing Who i wanna be,Who i wanna marry,How I'm going to live my life obeying God and at the same time enjoying life,that's what has impressed me more in Islam.

I worship one and only God,yet i get to enjoy life to the fullest.

If i would describe Islam in One sentence,i would say
" Live like you're never gonna die,Worship like you're gonna die tomorrow"

just one more thing,Muhammad the Messenger has been an ideal person  for both Muslim Believers and Atheists in the Era of Ignorance before even the Koran existed.


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Okay, now we're at least getting a little somewhere. Granted, it's a somewhere that's steeped in ignorance and an inability to speak English, but it's somewhere.

Quote: from charmgirl at 6:12 pm on Oct. 15, 2008


Women and Men in Islam are equal.There's no difference nor is there a disrespect for each other.

Tell that to the Taliban and the Muslim men who practice honor killing; either way, it's irrelevant.


Bible says that God is in 3 bodies but has one soul?? does this even make sense??

About as much sense as an illiterate man receiving a vision from an angel and writing a holy book.


I also see Christians going to church,lighting a candle and then their sins are gone..And guess what they confess their sins to God through a Priest which by the way is a human being himself.That's what i mean by Equality in Islam.

And here we see that you don't understand Christianity and are just making assumptions based on what you saw some Catholics do once. Here are some facts for you, chiquita: (1) no Christian believes that lighting a candle is all you must do to be forgiven of your sins; (2) only Catholics (possibly Eastern Orthodox as well, though I'm not sure) confess to a priest; and (3) I don't follow how any of this makes people unequal.


There's nothing "between" confessing our sins to God.

Nor is there in the vast majority of Christian denominations.


Law in Islam is based on Morals,Good,Right,etc..

So is the Law of the Jews in the Torah, and the moral code that Christians follow. What makes yours any better?


We choose Life path/style ,yet Fate does exist,don't ask me how,its a divine secret and i myself wonder about that.But,at the end i always feel peaceful because though I'm following a Specific Religious Message/Rules,i still can be free and make my own decisions.

You know who else feels that way?

Jews.

And you know who else feels that way, too?

Christians.


Like choosing Who i wanna be,Who i wanna marry,How I'm going to live my life obeying God and at the same time enjoying life,that's what has impressed me more in Islam.

Guess where else you can do that? Christianity, Judaism, various Eastern religions, all sorts of Pagan religions, some sects of Satanism...


I worship one and only God,yet i get to enjoy life to the fullest.

So do people of many other religions; what makes Islam special?  


If i would describe Islam in One sentence,i would say
" Live like you're never gonna die,Worship like you're gonna die tomorrow"

You know where else I've read that quote? On a Christian t-shirt.  


just one more thing,Muhammad the Messenger has been an ideal person for both Muslim Believers and Atheists in the Era of Ignorance before even the Koran existed.

Somehow, I doubt atheists consider Muhammed to be an ideal person. Furthermore, if atheists once considered Muhammed to be an ideal person before the existence of the Qu'ran, why have they stopped?

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Why your so concerned about my English,i know that Spanish is always popping up in my head but I'm cool with it.

Anyway,what you don't know is that there's sedition in the Middle East these days according to some Muslim men  who "pretend" to fight for Islam.I'm against them by the way.

I don't deny the similarities between Islam,Christianity and Judaism.As a matter of fact,they all are "Abrahamic Religions",Islam holds many beliefs and practices in common with Judaism and Christianity.

Koran,Bible and Torah are holy books,you said without mentioning them.

And pagans,please!

Who would worship some thing they made by their own hands?? ok,wait a minute  
i might make a Statue of myself and worship it then,how about that? it will satisfy my ego,agree?

Why have they stopped?

Hello,he's dead.They can't meet him nor can they judge him..when someone dies,nothing's left of him.Messengers are Humans too.

Besides Atheists of today relates Muhammad to Islam,meaning Islam is Terrorism so was Muhammad.This is such a lame and immature way of Hating someone you haven't even met.

They Just need to try reading Muhammad's life before Koran.or should i talk about that?


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Quote: from charmgirl at 3:12 pm on Oct. 15, 2008

Women and Men in Islam are equal.There's no difference nor is there a disrespect for each other.

Why isn't a woman allowed to marry four men?
Why can a man beat his wife?
Why do they separate Mosques based on gender?
Why doesn't a man have to cover his hair?


There's nothing "between" confessing our sins to God.

Catholicism isn't the only Christianity out there, you know. What stands between a Protestant and God?


Law in Islam is based on Morals,Good,Right,etc..

Law in Islam is based on religious opinion. Morality is subjective, and Islam provides opinions. Good is subjective, and Islam provides opinions. Right is subjective, and Islam provides opinions.


We choose Life path/style ,yet Fate does exist,don't ask me how,its a divine secret and i myself wonder about that.But,at the end i always feel peaceful because though I'm following a Specific Religious Message/Rules,i still can be free and make my own decisions.

It feels nice to believe God chose you to be one who was saved. When I initially tried reading the Koran, I was almost hoodwinked to. All that talk about God choosing who would be deceived. I wanted to feel special. I can't imagine how well that tricksome idea works on the minds of those without the benefit of a free education; without exposure to the ideas of rational thought, different philosophical views.  


I worship one and only God,yet i get to enjoy life to the fullest.

And when your husband is spending the night with a different wife? And when he hits you, as God permits? What then? Just another aspect of a full life?  


just one more thing,Muhammad the Messenger has been an ideal person  for both Muslim Believers and Atheists in the Era of Ignorance before even the Koran existed.

What did Muhammad do that was of consequence unrelated to his "receiving" the Koran?


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