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I don't know if what you say about family stuff is totally true though. Up until the 1950s it used to be that European immigrants like Russian and Italians lived with their extended family a lot. Its only lately that whites are more into nuclear family. So all you do is base that on what you see TODAY and call it white because you see whites TODAY doing it.  

But its not necessarily a "white thing".

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I specifically refered to "anglos".

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I would judge it on origin not uniqueness. For instance the preponderance of things like Wieners, Frankfurters etc... well it's in the name. It's obvious where they come from.

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I mean when I see "chorizo" I think its "mexican" not that its "latino" or "hispanic". When I see "wiener" I think its "german" not that its "white".

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Some is based on Greek and Roman stuff but there has been thousands of years of architectural development since then you know.

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When you see classical Chinese architecture you think its "Asian" as race or "asian" as in from the sasian continent? I think of it in te second one mostly.

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 you owe a great debt to Europe for a great many of the techniques used today regardless.

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I know what is European culture. I still don't get what is "white culture".

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I mean, culture, relates in my mind to two specific things, cultivation and agriculture - because they all have the same root, they elude to the idea of taking a seed and growing it up.

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Post edited at 6:36 am on Oct. 13, 2008 by jakelong

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Quote: from osmoticdespair at 6:24 am on Oct. 13, 2008

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I would judge it on origin not uniqueness. For instance the preponderance of things like Wieners, Frankfurters etc... well it's in the name. It's obvious where they come from.

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Does that make it "white" or does it make it "european"?  

I mean when I see "chorizo" I think its "mexican" not that its "latino" or "hispanic". When I see "wiener" I think its "german" not that its "white".  

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Some is based on Greek and Roman stuff but there has been thousands of years of architectural development since then you know.

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Sure but does that make it "white" or does that make it "european"? And if some modern stuff has been invented by somebody white does that make the architecture "white" just becase of that?  

When you see classical Chinese architecture you think its "Asian" as race or "asian" as in from the sasian continent? I think of it in te second one mostly.  

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 you owe a great debt to Europe for a great many of the techniques used today regardless.

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European yeah. But why "white"?  

I know what is European culture. I still don't get what is "white culture".

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I mean, culture, relates in my mind to two specific things, cultivation and agriculture - because they all have the same root, they elude to the idea of taking a seed and growing it up.

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Ok but what about your values, attitude are specially "white" and NOT "asian" or "latino" or "black"?

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My values aren't american at all so they can't be any of those things because the co-existence of separate racial cultures is (or was until the 60's or so) a specifically american thing.

As for architecture, I would consider chinese architecture chinese sure. Doesn't mean I can't use it if I like it, but it's still chinese, the chinese hold those traditions and if I take them I am taking them from that people (not in the sense of robbing them, but in the sense of it comes from a specific place and a specific people and I ought to give acknowledgment to that. It's not just ideas, those ideas grew out of something.)

The thing about wieners, yeah, it's German, but in the USA Germans have basically totally assimilated, so its just part of the wider culture.

Post edited at 10:32 am on Oct. 13, 2008 by osmoticdespair

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http://tep.uoregon.edu/workshops/teachdiversity/beingwhite/whiteculture.html

White culture = the cultures of Whites, by Whites, for Whites.

Culture is an interesting subject in that it can be broken down to the microcultural level of the home, office or school enviroment.

Ever heard of an "in joke" amongst friends? thats microculture.

So though there is no single White culture, there is White culture, in the same way there is Asian culture or Black culture.

Whether we like it or not, when someone refers to White, Asian or Black culture, we do pretty much know what they are talking about, though the term is somewhat bland, but getting into the semantics of such general concepts isn't really logical.

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Well I figure white culture is the predominant culture of white people in the usa which is derived from euro culture.

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Maybe I'd call it "Anglo culture". I usually don't like the word anglo that much because it leaves out other europeans. But at least "anglo" means that it comes from ppl who speak English, who often had british or german heritage, etc...

TBH I don't like the ward "black culture" either in term of race. To me its more like culture of the descendants of americans from africa but its not so much about race but about heritage.

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My values aren't american at all so they can't be any of those things

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in the sense of it comes from a specific place and a specific people and I ought to give acknowledgment to that. It's not just ideas, those ideas grew out of something.)

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The thing about wieners, yeah, it's German, but in the USA Germans have basically totally assimilated, so its just part of the wider culture.

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