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Quote: from gronk at 7:22 pm on Oct. 13, 2008

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No of course not, one of my best friends is both a follower of Jesus and a depression sufferer. However I believe and the bible says that Jesus transforms your live, gives you a new hope when you become a christian. So taking your life away is rebelling against God (sinning). So you have to question why, not immeadiately jump to conclusions.

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Perhaps because depression is often a clinical problem and the persons who suffer from depression aren't always responsible for their actions? I don't think it's your place to call anyone "less" Christian for committing suicide...they're no "less" Christian than a Christian who lies or a Christian who has extra-marital sex.

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no there arent less christians and more christian,
while we were sinners, christ died for us and presents us as blameless before him, if we accept his grace.

However there are false christians. Jesus says not everyone who calls me Lord will enter the kingdom of God.

Saying you are a christian doesnt make you a christian. And commiting suicide is a sin, you cant just ignore it and say God doesnt have a problem with it.

However suicide can happen for a range of different reasons, and can often be very complicated so saying a blanket rule about what happens is dangerous.

But if you genuinely believe in Jesus you will not perish but have eternal life

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Goodbye LW! 2 things to leave you with- 1 the points dont matter
2. There should be able to have topics within groups