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I'm developing a new concept
It's not a 'religion' anymore.
Replies: 84Last Post Oct. 15, 2008 2:44pm by BleedingSteelWings
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Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 7:48 pm on Oct. 15, 2008

Ghosts have been shown in various ways. Are you saying that ghosts aren't real? Because a lot of scientific minds that have nothing to do with religion would disagree with you.

A peer-reviewed study or two would be greatly appreciated.

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I can't really name any studies, like in closed conditions, but there's plenty of untouched footage, I can tell you that.

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If I accepted every grainy video I saw as absolute truth I'd believe in witches, vampires, fairies, unicorns, aliens and God knows what else.

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okay, fine, drop it. You've made your point quite clear.

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Just out of curiosity, why do you think there is no conclusive evidence of the supernatural? If ghosts really are a dime a dozen, why can't anyone prove it?

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Define prove. But still, you're stretching the point.

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Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 8:15 pm on Oct. 15, 2008

Define prove.

Controlled scientific experiments. Hell, let's get a ghost on national TV. Should be a welcome break from all those old, creaky houses.


But still, you're stretching the point.

What point?

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A&E. That's good national TV. Catch an episode of Paranormal State. Plus, how would you go about showing proof of ghosts in 'controlled scientific experiments'? There are things that are out of human control.
And the point I'm referring to is that you think I'm talking shit, or an equivalent statement.

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Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 8:20 pm on Oct. 15, 2008

A&E. That's good national TV. Catch an episode of Paranormal State.

No, let's have a ghost give an interview on Fox News. They can chat about the afterlife and all that.

If they can physically toss shit around, I'm sure they can manipulate air flow into words.


Plus, how would you go about showing proof of ghosts in 'controlled scientific experiments'? There are things that are out of human control.

Observing the law of energy conservation being violated would be quite something.


And the point I'm referring to is that you think I'm talking shit, or an equivalent statement.

You're basing a religion on superstitious rubbish.

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actually, they can find the energy to speak although it usually can't be audible to the naked human ear. It's a term known as "Electronic Voice Phenomena". You can hear discernible words after playing back recorded things where certain phenomena linked to ghosts occur.
And it sounds to me like you're not taking such concepts seriously.

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Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 8:25 pm on Oct. 15, 2008

actually, they can find the energy to speak although it usually can't be audible to the naked human ear. It's a term known as "Electronic Voice Phenomena". You can hear discernible words after playing back recorded things where certain phenomena linked to ghosts occur.  
And it sounds to me like you're not taking such concepts seriously.


Wait, so Led Zeppelin really are the minions of Satan?

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It's such a shame they can't record their voices forwards. Would make it so much easier.

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Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 5:23 pm on Oct. 14, 2008

It's pretty much believing soul is an actual thing and that it directs human behavior. There's more to it but for now that's about all I'm saying. btw it has nothing to do with God.

you're creating a personal worldview
where does templarism come in?

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Quote: from supercircus12 at 4:57 pm on Oct. 15, 2008

Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 5:23 pm on Oct. 14, 2008

It's pretty much believing soul is an actual thing and that it directs human behavior. There's more to it but for now that's about all I'm saying. btw it has nothing to do with God.

you're creating a personal worldview
where does templarism come in?



a worldview? Most of the people I know don't even know what the hell a soul is, let alone does.
I'm just concentrating things into a cohesive format. Like I said, there's more but I'm not going to bother right now.

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Quote: from SpM at 4:57 pm on Oct. 15, 2008

It's such a shame they can't record their voices forwards. Would make it so much easier.

You really have a problem with me, don't you?
It's not backwards, it's just inaudible until it's played after recording.

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