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I'm developing a new concept
It's not a 'religion' anymore.
Replies: 84 — Last Post Oct. 15, 2008 2:44pm by BleedingSteelWings
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SpM


Unprincipled
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I'd like to introduce you to my little friend: burden of proof

Ghosts might exist, but there is no reason to think they do until there is solid, scientific evidence.

There is not scientific evidence. Therefore, believing in ghosts is stupid. Your idea is stupid. Your religion is stupid.

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Are you done?

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So your tactic is now to ignore any logical refutations of your position, and just wait for everyone to get tired of you and leave?
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Enlightened One 		Reply
no, I have no tactic and everyone's gone by now except for you. Frankly, I'm tired of you. All I'm saying is that ghosts MIGHT be real. I'm not saying they are. And I say that if they exist they could be proof of soul.
You know what? a bit off topic here but I think that your hero might be TheAmazingAtheist.


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Unicorns might be real. Why build a belief structure on nothing? Why believe in anything?

And I've only watched a couple of his videos, but he seems like a right prick.

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Enlightened One 		Reply
I agree with his stuff, but still.
And I'm doing this for fun and a way to escape doctrined religions. You're allowed to do anything as long as it is moral.

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You're escaping dogma by creating an arbitrary, unproven religion of your own?

Rationality and skepticism not good enough for ya?

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seriously, you're doing it to death.
and who said religion has to be proven?
I'm rational in most respects. I'm skeptic in most respects. But there are some things that will catch my eye. Not everything can be proven in labs you know.

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Why do you think you can slap the label "religion" on something and exempt it from all rational enquiry?

Everything that is real can be proven. At least in the practical sense.

Post edited at 2:04 pm on Oct. 15, 2008 by SpM

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In the topic you posted about the Bible being bullshit, would you be satisfied with a Christian response of "Well, it's my religion. It doesn't matter if it's bullshit; it's still true."?

How is what you're doing any different, any better?

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Enlightened One 		Reply
I mistermed it. It's a concept.
I'm not saying it's exempt from all rational enquiry.
I'm really regretting making this topic.
Are black holes real? Is dark matter real? Are brown dwarfs real?
Okay, never mind what I'm saying. You're only gonna come and try and bash my credibility some more.

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If it's not exempt from enquiry, why do you take offence to my questioning?

Why do you object to being asked to justify your beliefs? And why do you hold beliefs you can't justify?

I really, really don't get it.

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Enlightened One 		Reply
I'm not taking offense to the questioning, It's just that the tone of your questions and responses sound sarcastic and sardonic and it's really irking me.
And I'm not objecting.
And for your last queston, ask any religious person that.
I have some evidence, then I have some ideas for why it's like that. It's just that you don't like the way the evidence is presented.

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Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 10:14 pm on Oct. 15, 2008
I'm not taking offense to the questioning, It's just that the tone of your questions and responses sound sarcastic and sardonic and it's really irking me.

Yeah, I am a bit of a cunt. Nothing personal.
And for your last queston, ask any religious person that.

I'm asking you.
I have some evidence, then I have some ideas for why it's like that. It's just that you don't like the way the evidence is presented.

Evidence must be conclusive before it is justifiable to draw conclusions from it. Hence the name.

Post edited at 2:19 pm on Oct. 15, 2008 by SpM

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Enlightened One 		Reply
Quote: from SpM at 6:49 pm on Oct. 15, 2008
Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 10:14 pm on Oct. 15, 2008
I'm not taking offense to the questioning, It's just that the tone of your questions and responses sound sarcastic and sardonic and it's really irking me.

Yeah, I am a bit of a cunt. Nothing personal.
And for your last queston, ask any religious person that.

I'm asking you.
I have some evidence, then I have some ideas for why it's like that. It's just that you don't like the way the evidence is presented.

Evidence must be conclusive before it is justifiable to draw conclusions from it. Hence the name.

If this is a game to you, I'm asking you nicely to stop. I'll believe whatever i want to believe, and you can do the same, alright?
And I wouldn't say cunt. You're a bit pushy, but I wouldn't say that.
Let's stop. Please? I really don't want to be mad at you for no reason and I'd like friends right now.

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