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1. That is not a proven fact. All we know is they were found in Europe.
2. They are not "aryan"

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outdated according to whom?

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So you saying that the original peoples in India were blacks!!! Awesome!  

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Since most scientists do NOT use the term AT ALL for homo sapiens sapiens they do not have to exxagerate.

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They are considered Aryan,

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Post edited at 12:43 pm on Oct. 19, 2008 by jakelong

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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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Quote: from kidd rune at 11:46 am on Oct. 18, 2008They are considered Aryan, Prove to me they are Aryan.

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Also, Proto-Nordic is another term for Cro-Magnon. The Scandinavians are supposed to be the closest genetic ancestors to the Cro-Magnids, does that tell you anything?

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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^^^Cro-Magnid genes very common in Europe.

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The article does NOT mention anything about Aryans.

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Also, Proto-Nordic is another term for Cro-Magnon.

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Post edited at 12:44 pm on Oct. 19, 2008 by jakelong

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So European = Aryan?

The article does NOT mention anything about Aryans.

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Another unfounded claim. Cro-magnon = European Upper Paleolithic They did NOT come from the Black Sea. Those are the indigineous european you were looking for.

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Aryan is the most common race of the Europeans they tested.

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You said earlier that Aryans could be non-Eruopean since they came from the Black sea...

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They teleported to Europe?

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Unless you want to claim that ALL europeans come from the black sea and are Aryans and that NO noneuropeans are aryans.

Which goes back to the old nazi claim that Only nordic europeans are aryans...

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Whoi is "they"? Thats not the ones who made the article you linked. They did not mention the word Aryan even once.

You said earlier that Aryans could be non-Eruopean since they came from the Black sea...

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They were developed in Europe. Just like Asians and Middle easterners. Your so-called aryans came from the black sea and mixed with asians and with europeans there.

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Unless you want to claim that ALL europeans come from the black sea and are Aryans and that NO noneuropeans are aryans.

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Which goes back to the old nazi claim that Only nordic europeans are aryans...

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as I said, most people don't know what it means.

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They mixed with Asians and Europeans

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Now I repeat the ealier question:

Why do you think the asians who mixed with aryans are NO LONGER aryans, BUT the europeans who mixed with aryans STILL are?

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Most of present-day Europeans (not the immigrants) are of the same racial stock as the Black Sea dwellers.

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Nazis never claimed only Nordics were Aryans.

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Adolf Hitler read Human Heredity shortly before he wrote Mein Kampf, and called it scientific proof of the racial basis of civilization.[3] Its arguments were also repeated by the Nazi ideologist Alfred Rosenberg, in his book The Myth of the Twentieth Century (1930). Rosenberg argued that the Nordic race had evolved in a now-lost landmass off the coast of North Western Europe, and had migrated through Scandinavia and northern Europe, expanding further south, and as far as Iran and India where it founded the Aryan cultures of Zoroastrianism and Hinduism.

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If it was truly scientific they would have used it. Since it depends on interpretation they dont use it.

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    They mixed with Asians and Europeans

Good so you admit that much.

Now I repeat the ealier question:

Why do you think the asians who mixed with aryans are NO LONGER aryans, BUT the europeans who mixed with aryans STILL are?

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The Asians that the Aryans mixed with were MONGOLOIDS. The "Original Europeans" were of Aryan/White/Caucasoid stock.

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They are mixed.

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So you dispute this right? -->

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Some people know what it means, but the average person hears "Aryan" and thinks "Nazi genocide jew hating blond blue eyed racist"

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The "Original Europeans" were of Aryan/White/Caucasoid stock.

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Aryans = Europeans = whites

Just what I thought...

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With what races?

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Well, anthropology wasn't as known back then, of course they're going to get some stuff wrong.

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The point is scientists don't mention it because it got shit to do with science. If it had some scientific meaning they would use it.

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So to you

Aryans = Europeans = whites

Just what I thought...

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with the black sea aryans (whatever race they were)

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Still kills your claim that Nazis did not think Aryan = nordic european.

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