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Why I think IQ scores are higher for Eurasians than the rest of Earth
Replies: 31Last Post Oct. 6, 2008 3:32pm by kidd rune
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Though I don't find one race, or any races, all-out "superior", I do find some races to be better off at certain things than others.

Note: This applies, mostly, to ancient times when races evolved and came to exist.

In Africa, the ability to run with great speed is of more value than a greater intelligence. They have to escape predators, other tribesmen, and other circumstances.
In this case: superiority is to run fast.

The case with East Mongoloids and Whites is that these races developed on the edge of the icecaps under harsh climates. The genetic response to this, for the East-Mongoloids, was to develop the epicanthic fold, which is commonly referred to as "Asian eyes".

he reason Europeans don't have this is because I the Europeans came ice sheets and the edge of the icecaps later than their Mongoloid relatives.

The other quality that developed was "delayed gratification". This is largely confined to the frontal lobe, as the other lobes are more or less concerned with relatively specific tasks
visual lobe = vision
parietal lobe = orientation in space
temporal lobe = object oriented sound and language

Why, relatively? Well, the anterior part of the frontal lobe concerns movements of the human body (pre-motor cortex and motor cortex), while the frontal part of the parietal lobe is concerned with orientation of the body in space and the limbs.

Thus the expanded frontal part, the executive part of the brain, concerns this delayed gratification. In other words: planning for the future. greater intelligence concerns planning ahead, acting instead of reacting.

Thus, in the environments of Eurasia, the superior quality was intelligence. In Africa, the superior quality was whatever helped survive - it just happened to be physical attributes.



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Quote: from mo money17 at 6:09 pm on Sep. 29, 2008

RACIST.
I knew the 1st comment would be that.

Doubt you read even 1/2 of it.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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Quote: from Elite Taste at 6:10 pm on Sep. 29, 2008

GTFO Racist


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occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Time to watch people manipulate this factual information into racist "superiority" bullshit.

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Quote: from Elite Taste at 6:10 pm on Sep. 29, 2008

GTFO Racist
Uh? Look at it again.

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Quote: from Mister Perfect at 6:10 pm on Sep. 29, 2008

Time to watch people manipulate this factual information into racist "superiority" bullshit.
They read the title only. I made it nice and easy for them creating that first sentence, but what do you expect?

Maybe it's fun to call everyone you see racist. I've never tried it, I wouldn't know.

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occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Unless you can show that African populations have less developed frontal lobes than we do this evolutionary argument is nothing but blind speculation and we are in fact physiologically identical intellectually whereas educational practices in eurasia come into play as the real cause for higher IQ averages.

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The fact that you ignore differing educational environments, as mentioned by medjai, or the tendency for IQ scores to rise in a population the longer IQ scores are administered (indicating that the population isn't getting smarter, but rather better at IQ tests), or the mere fact that an IQ test in question might be inherently biased toward people from a Eurasian background, probably doesn't indicate that you have an unseemly and unhealthy focus on issues of race.

oh wait, haha. yes it does.

Post edited at 6:27 pm on Sep. 29, 2008 by TheOtherHorseman

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The real answer is that an IQ test is an extremely poor method of quantifying intelligence in any culture, let alone cross-culture.

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Quote: from medjai at 6:16 pm on Sep. 29, 2008

Unless you can show that African populations have less developed frontal lobes than we do this evolutionary argument is nothing but blind speculation and we are in fact physiologically identical intellectually whereas educational practices in eurasia come into play as the real cause for higher IQ averages.
Education is offered through people of all races.

Here are some good reads on the subject, all proving the frontal lobe differences:
# Coon, Carleton S. The Origin of Races, 1962, Alfred A. Knopf
# Simpson, William Gayley. Which Way Western Man? 1978, National Alliance Press, Box 3535, Washington, D. C. 20007
# Putnam, Carleton. Race and Reality, a Search for Solutions, 1967, Howard Allen, Box 76, Cape Canaveral, FL 32920
# Putnam, Carleton. Race and Reason, 1961, Howard Allen Press, Cape Canaveral, FL

Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 6:26 pm on Sep. 29, 2008


The fact that you ignore differing educational environments, as mentioned by medjai, or the tendency for IQ scores to rise in a population the longer IQ scores are administered (indicating that the population isn't getting smarter, but rather better at IQ tests), or the mere fact that an IQ test in question might be inherently biased toward people from a Eurasian background, probably doesn't indicate that you have an unseemly and unhealthy focus on issues of race.

oh wait, haha. yes it does.


Actually, scientists have taken these out of context. They have done hundreds of tests on intelligence, some not including IQ testing at all, and the same results usually always occur.

Scientists have taken out the poverty factor, the location factor, and the language factor.

They have also tested identical twins and proved that most intelligence is, also, hereditary.

They have also tested Negro children that were adopted by White parents - their IQ scores may have improved, but they are still closer to their genetic parents.

And your claim that IQ tests are biased - NOBODY, not the NAACP, the United Negro College Fund, nor NEA had been able to develop an intelligence test which shows Blacks and Whites scoring equally.

And, of course, Amerinds live in conditions far worse than Negroes - yet consistently outscore them in IQ tests.

Also, it has been proven that children of White-Black marriages tend to have lower IQs than the White parent.



The real answer is that an IQ test is an extremely poor method of quantifying intelligence in any culture, let alone cross-culture.
Tell the NAACP, United Negro College Fund, the NEA, or some other organization to make another test than.

What else would you test intelligence with? Brain size and intelligence have proven to be connected - Brain size differences, of course, exist inside of races - the Negro brain being 8-12% lighter than that of the White.

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occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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The real answer, in short, is along the lines of what medjai said, BUT PUT MORE SIMPLY, IQ TESTS ARE TOTAL HORSESHIT.

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Quote: from prisoner of hss at 3:15 pm on Sep. 30, 2008

The real answer, in short, is along the lines of what medjai said, BUT PUT MORE SIMPLY, IQ TESTS ARE TOTAL HORSESHIT.
What alternative is there?

IQ tests are NOT biased and are a good way to test intelligence.


Nevertheless, it's not the ONLY way Eurasians stand out more than the rest of Earth - their brain itself is different.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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