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Quote: from kidd rune at 10:26 pm on Nov. 4, 2008


Erm, sweety, what country am I from?
That's not an answer - I happen to know quite a bit about the German status on these things anyway.

Okay then - if you know so much - what IS a National Socialist? What are their beliefs? What's bad about them?


I wasn't implying that you don't know what it is. I was saying that I obviously know what it is.

A national socialist is typically a great believer in a totalitarian system (one leader with all power), racism, and imperialism.

Why is that bad? Because they tend to be extreme in getting their beliefs put through. I think we all agree that racism isn't a great thing and while some people may believe in a totalitarian system...it isn't a democracy, which is something most favor.


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I wasn't implying that you don't know what it is. I was saying that I obviously know what it is.
Being German doesn't mean you know what it is.


A national socialist is typically a great believer in a totalitarian system (one leader with all power), racism, and imperialism.

WRONG.

National Socialism is organizing all of the nations resources for the benefit of it's native population (In Germanys case - the Germans, or Germanic people).

Companies still make profit (Unlike pure Socialism) but not at the expense of screwing their own workers, people, and culture.

National Socialists want a strong, healthy people. That's why they approve of government funding for health care, education, etc.

The Nazis are a good example - they had a huge progressive social program that included health spas for workers, child care factories for working mothers, paid maternity leave, and breast cancer awareness (first ever to exist).

It wasn't all barbaross, racism, and genocide.


Also, National Socialist societies and people set themselves at very high standards. They police themselves as well as their enemies.

They want their society to be healthy, educated, and productive.


National Socialism conforms much more closely to the old European ideals of Volk - your kith and kin being important.


Why is that bad? Because they tend to be extreme in getting their beliefs put through. I think we all agree that racism isn't a great thing and while some people may believe in a totalitarian system...it isn't a democracy, which is something most favor.
Proof that you don't know what it is.

Being German doesn't mean anything.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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Quote: from kidd rune at 10:19 pm on Nov. 5, 2008


I wasn't implying that you don't know what it is. I was saying that I obviously know what it is.
Being German doesn't mean you know what it is.


A national socialist is typically a great believer in a totalitarian system (one leader with all power), racism, and imperialism.

WRONG.

National Socialism is organizing all of the nations resources for the benefit of it's native population (In Germanys case - the Germans, or Germanic people).

Companies still make profit (Unlike pure Socialism) but not at the expense of screwing their own workers, people, and culture.

National Socialists want a strong, healthy people. That's why they approve of government funding for health care, education, etc.

The Nazis are a good example - they had a huge progressive social program that included health spas for workers, child care factories for working mothers, paid maternity leave, and breast cancer awareness (first ever to exist).

It wasn't all barbaross, racism, and genocide.

 
Also, National Socialist societies and people set themselves at very high standards. They police themselves as well as their enemies.

They want their society to be healthy, educated, and productive.

 
National Socialism conforms much more closely to the old European ideals of Volk - your kith and kin being important.

 


Why is that bad? Because they tend to be extreme in getting their beliefs put through. I think we all agree that racism isn't a great thing and while some people may believe in a totalitarian system...it isn't a democracy, which is something most favor.
Proof that you don't know what it is.

Being German doesn't mean anything.


You have a very Utopian view of national socialism.

All those things they do and/or promise to do? They do them to gain better understanding for what they do, because people are willing to cut their losses.


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You have a very Utopian view of national socialism.
I didn't make any promises in this. The thing is - when people disagree or can't do what is needed, they are punished. Mentally retarded children are "Mercy killed" - probably in the womb itself. The naturally dumb are sterilized. The criminals the same - sterilized (well, the crime would also matter).


All those things they do and/or promise to do?
It's not from absolutely nothing to complete National Socialism - it's a gradual climb.
The funny thing is, Germany didn't even finish their climb.


They do them to gain better understanding for what they do, because people are willing to cut their losses.
What do you mean?

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Quote: from kidd rune at 11:34 am on Nov. 4, 2008

Quote: from barnabas at 10:28 am on Nov. 4, 2008

she is very pretty.

 Why would someone from the RAF be a neonazi? I dont believe that.


His name is Horst Mahler.
I read it in an article, but it says it in Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Mahler" target="_top">http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Mahler


Mahler became known as a founding member of the radical leftist Baader-Meinhof Group in 1970. In 2000 he joined the right-wing NPD and represented the party in court.

You can read about it in the link too.

 
Quote: from Lulamae at 10:18 am on Nov. 4, 2008


If he did do that...he was a complete idiot, because the RAF stand for the exact opposite extreme.
Well, the RAF is full of idiots too.

the WN movement is filled with a bunch of cowards

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the WN movement is filled with a bunch of cowards
How so?

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Quote: from kidd rune at 7:23 pm on Nov. 7, 2008


the WN movement is filled with a bunch of cowards
How so?

talk tough on the internet oh we'll kill the antis blah blah.. well guess what every confrontation I've had with nazis half the fools ran soon as shit went down and left the few who were man enough to fight..lets see yeah its cool to bring guns to shows and pull them out on punk kids 10-20 years younger then you...its real cool to gang up on kids 10-20 younger then you..its real cool preaching white power but hey guess what most of the violence invoveld with skinheads its White on White.. howmany WN will actaully go up to non-whties are start shit unless they outnumber them 5-1..and don't tell me I dont know what i'm talking about because my whole area is infested with the scum..before I started going to shows there was bad fight with the Allentown bonheads and all the guys up ehre and alot of the imtes it involved guns and knives..the best part is when we stomped the fuck out of 8 nazi skinheads who shows up to one of our shows and every single one tried running except for 1 who stabbed away and stabbed 3 of my friends..but hey they still got their heads kicked in..White Nationalism is a fucking joke you toolbag..Stop watching american history x or wahtever stupid show you watched

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Quote: from kidd rune at 7:23 pm on Nov. 7, 2008


the WN movement is filled with a bunch of cowards
How so?

and don't try and talk politics with me because your casue will never happen..its a fucking joke..you really should find a hobby..dont waste your timewith that bullshit..I have quite a few friends who are ex nazis and they regret even wasting their time with the bullshit..but hey its your life not mine..you can waste your time fighting and dreaming for something that will NEVER happen

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Quote: from kidd rune at 7:23 pm on Nov. 7, 2008


the WN movement is filled with a bunch of cowards
How so?

and tell me why does it not make someone a coward to bring their baby USE their own child for protectiong becuase they're pushing some stupid fucked up ideology around?..you didnt asnwer anything I said on your stupid storm front page...for being the master race you guys are sure fuckin scumbags

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talk tough on the internet oh we'll kill the antis blah blah.. well guess what every confrontation I've had with nazis half the fools ran soon as shit went down and left the few who were man enough to fight
Nazis aren't National Socialists or White Nationalists.


lets see yeah its cool to bring guns to shows and pull them out on punk kids 10-20 years younger then you
It's much better to gang up 10v1...



its real cool preaching white power but hey guess what most of the violence invoveld with skinheads its White on White
White Nationalists ARE NOT WHITE SUPREMACISTS OR SKINHEADS.



howmany WN will actaully go up to non-whties are start shit unless they outnumber them 5-1
Yesterday, one made a post sticking up for a White that was fighting off 2 Mexicans who ganged up on him...



nd don't tell me I dont know what i'm talking about because my whole area is infested with the scum..before I started going to shows there was bad fight with the Allentown bonheads and all the guys up ehre and alot of the imtes it involved guns and knives..the best part is when we stomped the fuck out of 8 nazi skinheads who shows up to one of our shows and every single one tried running except for 1 who stabbed away and stabbed 3 of my friends..but hey they still got their heads kicked in..White Nationalism is a fucking joke you toolbag..Stop watching american history x or wahtever stupid show you watched

You seem to not know what White Nationalism is.

YOU are an idiot.
YOU are the retard.

Only a fool would mistake White Nationalism for Skinheads - and that is the truth.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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Quote: from kidd rune at 11:25 pm on Nov. 7, 2008


talk tough on the internet oh we'll kill the antis blah blah.. well guess what every confrontation I've had with nazis half the fools ran soon as shit went down and left the few who were man enough to fight
Nazis aren't National Socialists or White Nationalists.


lets see yeah its cool to bring guns to shows and pull them out on punk kids 10-20 years younger then you
It's much better to gang up 10v1...

 


its real cool preaching white power but hey guess what most of the violence invoveld with skinheads its White on White
White Nationalists ARE NOT WHITE SUPREMACISTS OR SKINHEADS.

 


howmany WN will actaully go up to non-whties are start shit unless they outnumber them 5-1
Yesterday, one made a post sticking up for a White that was fighting off 2 Mexicans who ganged up on him...

 


nd don't tell me I dont know what i'm talking about because my whole area is infested with the scum..before I started going to shows there was bad fight with the Allentown bonheads and all the guys up ehre and alot of the imtes it involved guns and knives..the best part is when we stomped the fuck out of 8 nazi skinheads who shows up to one of our shows and every single one tried running except for 1 who stabbed away and stabbed 3 of my friends..but hey they still got their heads kicked in..White Nationalism is a fucking joke you toolbag..Stop watching american history x or wahtever stupid show you watched

You seem to not know what White Nationalism is.

YOU are an idiot.
YOU are the retard.

Only a fool would mistake White Nationalism for Skinheads - and that is the truth.


you're a fucking internet nerd shut the fuck up.. WOW SOMEONE MADE A POST ON A INTERNET FORUM ABOUT BEATING SOMEONE UP...holy fuck that just proves how strong white nationalists are.. you're such a douche seriously..you really need to get out of your intenet fantasy land..you have NOTHING do with the white nationalist movement..all you do is read about it online.. sorry faggot but the truth is the most active groups in the white nationalist/national socialism are fake skinheads... I know first hand and everyone knows that its common knowledge.. And Ive seen in the last few years one of the most active groups in the USA Keystone state skinheads changed their names to Keystone United and are trying to shake off the very visable skinhead image..all you have is internet knowledge no street knowledge about the subject...

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Quote: from kidd rune at 11:25 pm on Nov. 7, 2008


talk tough on the internet oh we'll kill the antis blah blah.. well guess what every confrontation I've had with nazis half the fools ran soon as shit went down and left the few who were man enough to fight
Nazis aren't National Socialists or White Nationalists.


lets see yeah its cool to bring guns to shows and pull them out on punk kids 10-20 years younger then you
It's much better to gang up 10v1...

 


its real cool preaching white power but hey guess what most of the violence invoveld with skinheads its White on White
White Nationalists ARE NOT WHITE SUPREMACISTS OR SKINHEADS.

 


howmany WN will actaully go up to non-whties are start shit unless they outnumber them 5-1
Yesterday, one made a post sticking up for a White that was fighting off 2 Mexicans who ganged up on him...

 


nd don't tell me I dont know what i'm talking about because my whole area is infested with the scum..before I started going to shows there was bad fight with the Allentown bonheads and all the guys up ehre and alot of the imtes it involved guns and knives..the best part is when we stomped the fuck out of 8 nazi skinheads who shows up to one of our shows and every single one tried running except for 1 who stabbed away and stabbed 3 of my friends..but hey they still got their heads kicked in..White Nationalism is a fucking joke you toolbag..Stop watching american history x or wahtever stupid show you watched

You seem to not know what White Nationalism is.

YOU are an idiot.
YOU are the retard.

Only a fool would mistake White Nationalism for Skinheads - and that is the truth.


and guaranteed you dont wear or spout this shit outside the internet you fucking herb

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Quote: from kidd rune at 4:19 pm on Nov. 5, 2008


I wasn't implying that you don't know what it is. I was saying that I obviously know what it is.
Being German doesn't mean you know what it is.


A national socialist is typically a great believer in a totalitarian system (one leader with all power), racism, and imperialism.

WRONG.

National Socialism is organizing all of the nations resources for the benefit of it's native population (In Germanys case - the Germans, or Germanic people).

Companies still make profit (Unlike pure Socialism) but not at the expense of screwing their own workers, people, and culture.

National Socialists want a strong, healthy people. That's why they approve of government funding for health care, education, etc.

The Nazis are a good example - they had a huge progressive social program that included health spas for workers, child care factories for working mothers, paid maternity leave, and breast cancer awareness (first ever to exist).

It wasn't all barbaross, racism, and genocide.

 
Also, National Socialist societies and people set themselves at very high standards. They police themselves as well as their enemies.

They want their society to be healthy, educated, and productive.

 
National Socialism conforms much more closely to the old European ideals of Volk - your kith and kin being important.

 


Why is that bad? Because they tend to be extreme in getting their beliefs put through. I think we all agree that racism isn't a great thing and while some people may believe in a totalitarian system...it isn't a democracy, which is something most favor.
Proof that you don't know what it is.

Being German doesn't mean anything.


and still you refuse to asnwer me why its cool for a "white nationalist" to bring kid infant along for protection when hes spreading his propaganda

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you're a fucking internet nerd shut the fuck up.. WOW SOMEONE MADE A POST ON A INTERNET FORUM ABOUT BEATING SOMEONE UP...holy fuck that just proves how strong white nationalists are.. you're such a douche seriously..you really need to get out of your intenet fantasy land..you have NOTHING do with the white nationalist movement..all you do is read about it online.. sorry faggot but the truth is the most active groups in the white nationalist/national socialism are fake skinheads... I know first hand and everyone knows that its common knowledge.. And Ive seen in the last few years one of the most active groups in the USA Keystone state skinheads changed their names to Keystone United and are trying to shake off the very visable skinhead image..all you have is internet knowledge no street knowledge about the subject...

First you prove that you have no idea what a White Nationalist is. THEN, you prove that you assume things about me to fit your needs.


sorry faggot but the truth is the most active groups in the white nationalist/national socialism are fake skinheads
More proof.
White Nationalists and National Socialists aren't Skinheads.


And Ive seen in the last few years one of the most active groups in the USA Keystone state skinheads changed their names to Keystone United and are trying to shake off the very visable skinhead image..all you have is internet knowledge no street knowledge about the subject...
More assumptions.


And Ive seen in the last few years one of the most active groups in the USA Keystone state skinheads changed their names to Keystone United and are trying to shake off the very visable skinhead image..all you have is internet knowledge no street knowledge about the subject...

I have nothing - and want nothing - to do with Skinheads.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Quote: from kidd rune at 11:25 pm on Nov. 7, 2008


talk tough on the internet oh we'll kill the antis blah blah.. well guess what every confrontation I've had with nazis half the fools ran soon as shit went down and left the few who were man enough to fight
Nazis aren't National Socialists or White Nationalists.


lets see yeah its cool to bring guns to shows and pull them out on punk kids 10-20 years younger then you
It's much better to gang up 10v1...

 


its real cool preaching white power but hey guess what most of the violence invoveld with skinheads its White on White
White Nationalists ARE NOT WHITE SUPREMACISTS OR SKINHEADS.

 


howmany WN will actaully go up to non-whties are start shit unless they outnumber them 5-1
Yesterday, one made a post sticking up for a White that was fighting off 2 Mexicans who ganged up on him...

 


nd don't tell me I dont know what i'm talking about because my whole area is infested with the scum..before I started going to shows there was bad fight with the Allentown bonheads and all the guys up ehre and alot of the imtes it involved guns and knives..the best part is when we stomped the fuck out of 8 nazi skinheads who shows up to one of our shows and every single one tried running except for 1 who stabbed away and stabbed 3 of my friends..but hey they still got their heads kicked in..White Nationalism is a fucking joke you toolbag..Stop watching american history x or wahtever stupid show you watched

You seem to not know what White Nationalism is.

YOU are an idiot.
YOU are the retard.

Only a fool would mistake White Nationalism for Skinheads - and that is the truth.


whyd you say nazis arent national socialists?

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