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Replies: 64Last Post Nov. 14, 2008 2:39pm by kidd rune
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lol, Do you even know what a Skinhead believes? I don't think you do. You sound like an idiot. You can't spell, and look at your grammar. I know my grammar isn't the greatest, but damn did you even go to school?
He thinks a few defects represent all.

That's actually the same ideology of a few White Supremacists (many Negroes are bad, so they all are) - you know, the ones 95% of livewire wants dead.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Quote: from kidd rune at 3:11 pm on Nov. 8, 2008

I still want answers.
Nah you don't care about answers. You only care about spreading propaganda.  

Most of your logic runs in circles. Most of your  
support" comes from blatantly racialist biased sources. Most of your arguments repeat over and over the SAME BS.  

You don't have to be white power to be racist. You're not evena great WN. You can't even admit that your views are racist because you are afraid of what people think of you or what you think of yourself.

You're just pathetic.

It IS fun making you chase after your own tail though..."tongue"  

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all you do is run around questions
Hey you notices that too Killcops?  

Post edited at 4:40 pm on Nov. 8, 2008 by jakelong

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Nah you don't care about answers. You only care about spreading propaganda.  
That means you don't have answers Jakelong.


Most of your logic runs in circles. Most of your  
support" comes from blatantly racialist biased sources. Most of your arguments repeat over and over the SAME BS.  

No, Jakelong.
Anything that doesn't agree with you is racist and biased.
Anything that isn't politcally correct is racist and biased.
Anything that, somehow, makes someone "Feel bad" is racist and biased.

That's your reasoning - and it fails.



You don't have to be white power to be racist. You're not evena great WN. You can't even admit that your views are racist because you are afraid of what people think of you or what you think of yourself.
My views aren't racist. I've said time and time agian. You proved that some WN's are racist - but they weren't mine.


You're just pathetic.
No, you are.

You just can't face the fact that multiculturalism has bad influence some of the time.
You just can't face the fact that you're wrong about many things, Jakelong.

Also - using a source that is widely accepted doesn't mean it's true. Using a website that is government owned or anti-racist doesn't mean it's true.



It IS fun making you chase after your own tail though..."tongue"  
You're the one that doesn't understand 1/2 the shit I say - and you change your mind constantly.


Hey you notices that too Killcops?
I answered all of his questions.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Quote: from kidd rune at 5:10 pm on Nov. 8, 2008

That means you don't have answers Jakelong.
I gave you so many answers you gained 2000 points in 2 months, most of it by asking other questions or doing coypasta from WN sites.

You even added ME as a friend just so you could move up in rank! Pretty pathetic!



Anything that doesn't agree with you is racist and biased.

Nope not "anything". YOUR shit definitely qualiifies nd you know it.

As you know I am not the only one on LW you knows you go in circles and cannot give straight answers. Unless you saying ALL LW is against you...


That's your reasoning - and it fails.
It is not my reasoning and you failed SO many times it is just funny.


My views aren't racist. I've said time and time agian.
Saying it alone does not make it so. Looking at your views, your links and your reasoning does.


No, you are.
No it is you! (Another emxaple of your great arguments. " No I didn't!" "Yes it is!"


You just can't face the fact that multiculturalism has bad influence some of the time.
I never said it did not . But YOU can never face that MC CAN be a good thing.

YOU can never face that people can and do live happily with others of other races and that the contact with other cultures CAN be enriching.


You just can't face the fact that you're wrong about many things
Hey I know I have been wrong about many things. Ask most ppl and they can tell I recognize when I'm wrong.

But I NEVER been against YOU or your views.


Also - using a source that is widely accepted doesn't mean it's true.
Nope but using a website that is biased and extremist cannot be used to support scientific reasoning or support an argument you want others to accept.

When you try to mae an argument or justify a position then you have to use a source that is considered "middle ground" and that can be accepted by ppl neutral to the position.

Then you can bring ppl to the table and have a normal debate.

But when you start with sources that are already old or obviously filled with propaganda then you are just trying to post what you already believe. You don't bring anything to the debate just your own bias. So of course no one is convinced.

Its what Bud2400 (who's the most neutral on that issue that you ever can see) calls CONFIRMATION BIAS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

You keep using that over and oer and most everybody is just tired of it because its just stupid.


You're the one that doesn't understand 1/2 the shit I say
Most of it is pure SHIT yep.


and you change your mind constantly.
I was told Im pretty obtuse so I doubt that. Im fucking with you a lot thats true.


I answered all of his questions.
By asking another question. Thats your typical method and that doesn't answer shit.

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Fuck all this babbley waffle. Let's argue about WN instead of racism.

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I gave you so many answers you gained 2000 points in 2 months, most of it by asking other questions or doing coypasta from WN sites.  

You even added ME as a friend just so you could move up in rank! Pretty pathetic!


I gave you answers too, if you don't think I did ASK ME NOW.

You could even PM me!

And I thought we were friends :'(


Nope not "anything". YOUR shit definitely qualiifies nd you know it.

As you know I am not the only one on LW you knows you go in circles and cannot give straight answers. Unless you saying ALL LW is against you...


Ah. Much of your crap goes in circles too. You'll claim one thing that moderately goes against my thinking - and then find yourself a whole new thing and take it and run with it.

You actually posted some shit about Whites being 35% "African" and 65% "Asian" - yet much of what you say (Each race having distinct characteristics - even if they only apply to some things) contradicts that.

And then you claim your "trusted" sites aren't biased, it's just that they aren't biased against YOU.


It is not my reasoning and you failed SO many times it is just funny.
Your reasoning has failed SO many times too.


Saying it alone does not make it so. Looking at your views, your links and your reasoning does.
Prove that I'm racist.
Make a thread about it.
I don't care.
It ought to be easy, right? I'm such an anti-semitic hatemonger White supremacist skinhead - you should have no trouble


No it is you! (Another emxaple of your great arguments. " No I didn't!" "Yes it is!"
I presented reasons below it...


I never said it did not . But YOU can never face that MC CAN be a good thing.
I'm sure it can to some people. It just matters how you look at it and how it is presented and what form it takes.
I want multiculturalism to exist - but each culture should have its own space.

If I go to Italy - I expect to see Italian culture. If I go to Sweden, I expect to see Swedish culture. If I go to Argentina, I expect to see Argentinian culture.
I've been to one of these places, and multiculturalism has failed me. I'm not the only one that thinks that it has either - many people I know were "Disappointed" with countries they visited.

But, I do want the WORLD to be multicultural - unlike some people *cough* Carracer *cough* who said in PM


"So we should mix and mash all cultures into one?"

Slightly.


You can't mix it in without one thing being replaced or underrepresented.


YOU can never face that people can and do live happily with others of other races and that the contact with other cultures CAN be enriching.
I can accpet that - but that accounts for some people and their way of life.
I, myself, want to experience other cultures in quantities I can handle.
If I want Mexican culture - I'll go to Mexico. If I want Chinese - I'll go to China.

I DO NOT want other cultures to surround me, come to my doorstep, run around me, and influence mine and try to change it and the ways of my area - molding it to fit THEIR distinct culture. This is where cultures clash - differences aren't always compatible.


Hey I know I have been wrong about many things. Ask most ppl and they can tell I recognize when I'm wrong.

But I NEVER been against YOU or your views.


"But I NEVER" doesn't make any sence.

Are you trying to say you have never been wrong about me or my views?


Nope but using a website that is biased and extremist cannot be used to support scientific reasoning or support an argument you want others to accept.
It matters.

Many things are Tabooed in our society. If they are 100% true and provable, they won't be put on any "Trusted" site.

This is when things start to become Politcally Incorrect, or "Hurt people's feelings."


When you try to mae an argument or justify a position then you have to use a source that is considered "middle ground" and that can be accepted by ppl neutral to the position.

Then you can bring ppl to the table and have a normal debate.

But when you start with sources that are already old or obviously filled with propaganda then you are just trying to post what you already believe. You don't bring anything to the debate just your own bias. So of course no one is convinced.

Its what Bud2400 (who's the most neutral on that issue that you ever can see) calls CONFIRMATION BIAS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

You keep using that over and oer and most everybody is just tired of it because its just stupid.


Take your own advice.

You've used websites that only display race as looks/color.
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...avoids information and interpretations which contradict prior beliefs...

Some of your "Trusted" sources ignore anything about race being more than skin, appearance, or location.


Most of it is pure SHIT yep.
Not really, no.

Much of what you say is pure shit.
Remember that inventions thread?

You "Trusted source" only turned out to have one provable invention - the rest had no real factual evidence, or were easily disprovable.

Then you go the "Well, they influenced other inventions" route. Many of them didn't - and you can't know if they were ever even mass produced. The WWI gas mask is a good example. When people don't go all out and claim it was the FIRST gas mask, they say it was used by Americans in WWI. This was false as Americans used European gas masks in the war - they were new to gas in warfare and didn't know as much about it.


I was told Im pretty obtuse so I doubt that. Im fucking with you a lot thats true.
You once said Whites may have a small amount of differences from other races - then you say we're just mixed up "Africans" and "Asians"


By asking another question. Thats your typical method and that doesn't answer shit.
I said this:
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In your post - I see two question marks. Only two. I answered the first one - and the second is gramatically incorrect - there shouldn't even be a question mark.

Then I went to the RAF post.

The first real question he asked was


Please tell me what NAZI stands for

And I answered it.

Then he asked


then tell me what keystoneunited, aryan nations, vinlanders club, etc. believe in
And I admitted I couldn't really answer as I don't affiliate with them.

Then he asked how I can tell him they're not racist - and I told him I never said THEY weren't.

He goes and asks
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doesnt that make them both white nationalists?
And I explained (not literally saying yes or no, maybe that threw him off?) how Skins can be WN's - but WN's are rarely Skins.

Next, he asked if I knew any Skinheads.
I answered that too.


That itself ended the RAF thread - the only one I really recall debating/arguing with him in.

Do YOU know any questions he asked that I refuse to answer - or do you just assume that he's telling the truth?

Do you have any questions YOU want to ask me personally? You can PM me them if you want - then I can't really avoid them, can I?

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occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Quote: from tell me again at 6:13 pm on Nov. 8, 2008

Fuck all this babbley waffle. Let's argue about WN instead of racism.
Ok WN is just lame.  

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If I go to Argentina, I expect to see Argentinian culture.
Argentinian culture is actually multicultural by definition...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Argentina


The culture of Argentina is as varied as the country's geography and mix of ethnic groups. Modern Argentine culture has been largely influenced by European immigration although there are also some Amerindian and African influences, particularly in the fields of music and art. Buenos Aires and other cities show a mixture of architectural styles imported from Europe but in the case of older settlements, and of older preserved neighborhoods within cities, modern styles appear mixed with colonial features, relics from the Spanish-ruled past. Museums, cinemas and galleries are abundant in all the large urban centers, as well as traditional establishments such as literary bars, or bars offering live music of a variety of genres.

So bad example to use for your point.

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It matters.
What matters?


Many things are Tabooed in our society. If they are 100% true and provable, they won't be put on any "Trusted" site.
So just because things are "taboo" means you can post Any BS you want? Ok...That still doesn't mean the site can be "trusted"

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Ok WN is just lame.
White Nationalism is for the survival of Whites.

If suvival of Whites is lame - then you must advocate genocide. Genocidedoes not only come in the form of "Death Camps," "Gassing," and war.


Argentinian culture is actually multicultural by definition...

So bad example to use for your point.


It's not mutlticultural - it's a mix of other cultures into ONE.

That's like saying green can't be called green - just yellow and blue.


What matters?
Some things are so frowned upon in our society - no matter how true they are, you won't find them on any "Neutral" site.


So just because things are "taboo" means you can post Any BS you want? Ok...That still doesn't mean the site can be "trusted"
It doesn't mean the whole site CAN be, but if what they claim has sources from back when everything race wasn't tabooed or scientific studies and whatnot - then you can look at it.

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occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Quote: from kidd rune at 10:42 am on Nov. 9, 2008White Nationalism is for the survival of Whites. Yeah because whites are so pathetic they can't survive in the wild and need a special zoo just for them...

If suvival of Whites is lame - then you must advocate genocide. Another pathetic lack of logic. Thats slippery slope taken to the max.

It's not mutlticultural - it's a mix of other cultures into ONE. Yep its when multiculturalism SUCCEEDS

Now tell me what is the RACE of that culture?

[quote[That's like saying green can't be called green - just yellow and blue. I see green as BOTH green and yellow and blue,

Some things are so frowned upon in our society - no matter how true they are, you won't find them on any "Neutral" site. You said "it matters" what matters? It was not an answer to what I quoted.

It doesn't mean the whole site CAN be, but if what they claim has sources from back when everything race wasn't tabooed or scientific studies and whatnot - then you can look at it.Excpet that those "scientific studies" are no longer valid.

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Yeah because whites are so pathetic they can't survive in the wild and need a special zoo just for them...
The numbers are declining. They are dying out.



Another pathetic lack of logic. Thats slippery slope taken to the max.
No.
If you're against the preservation of race - that's FOR the death of race.


Yep its when multiculturalism SUCCEEDS
That isn't succeeding!
Plenty of culture had to be DESTROYED or TAKEN OVER for that to happen.

That's horrible.


Now tell me what is the RACE of that culture?
It's mixed...



I see green as BOTH green and yellow and blue
It's not yellow or blue - it's simply green.

It's made up of yellow and blue, but you'd be a retard if you called it yellow or blue.


You said "it matters" what matters? It was not an answer to what I quoted.
It matters what information it is.
For example, race and intelligence.
If it was PROVEN that race and intelligence correlated - it wouldn't be on any "Trusted" site.


Excpet that those "scientific studies" are no longer valid.
That's for you to prove, isn't it.
The date can't be proof of it being wrong either. If a newer study exists and THOROUGHLY proves it wrong - that's different.

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occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:12 pm on Nov. 8, 2008


Alot more people agree with me then you
Oh, that approach! "Everyone thinks you're racist!" (this is said to almost every WN 100 times in his/her lifetime)
Well, that doesn't really work in proper reasoning - I've heard it plenty of times.

what doesn't work in proper reasoning?...it doesnt matter waht you or I say the majority of people know your "movement" if full of shit

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lol, Do you even know what a Skinhead believes? I don't think you do. You sound like an idiot. You can't spell, and look at your grammar. I know my grammar isn't the greatest, but damn did you even go to school?
He thinks a few defects represent all.

That's actually the same ideology of a few White Supremacists (many Negroes are bad, so they all are) - you know, the ones 95% of livewire wants dead.


Like I said I dont view racist skinheads as real skinheads..they're white nationalists/ national socialists dressing up as skinheads

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Quote: from kidd rune at 1:42 pm on Nov. 9, 2008


Ok WN is just lame.
White Nationalism is for the survival of Whites.

If suvival of Whites is lame - then you must advocate genocide. Genocidedoes not only come in the form of "Death Camps," "Gassing," and war.


Argentinian culture is actually multicultural by definition...

So bad example to use for your point.


It's not mutlticultural - it's a mix of other cultures into ONE.

That's like saying green can't be called green - just yellow and blue.


What matters?
Some things are so frowned upon in our society - no matter how true they are, you won't find them on any "Neutral" site.


So just because things are "taboo" means you can post Any BS you want? Ok...That still doesn't mean the site can be "trusted"
It doesn't mean the whole site CAN be, but if what they claim has sources from back when everything race wasn't tabooed or scientific studies and whatnot - then you can look at it.

you're gay.. I like me some white bitches just as much as I like me some latino bitches...most people don't care about keeping their blood "pure"

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