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Replies: 25 Last Post Nov. 5, 2008 9:45pm by fenrir
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julian
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Quote: from Wilder at 5:21 pm on Nov. 4, 2008
Quote: from julian at 3:12 pm on Nov. 4, 2008
Quote: from Wilder at 4:35 pm on Nov. 4, 2008
Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 4:37 am on Nov. 4, 2008
Just keep in mind: God help you if you want a PhD so that you can teach.
Why? 
It is kind of the wrong reason to get a PhD. You should get a PhD because you want to be a lifelong student in a subject that you want to devote your life to. Teaching is something that goes along with this of course, but there is much more involved to obtaining a PhD than merely a desire to teach. 
You know people that want to teach on a college level but don't want to be lifelong students in the subjects that they will devote their lives to studying and teaching? 
No, I said the exact opposite. I even have profs that do not want to teach. They just do it because they have to. It's unfortunate, but a reality at many universities.
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Wilder
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Quote: from julian at 3:37 pm on Nov. 4, 2008
Quote: from Wilder at 5:21 pm on Nov. 4, 2008
Quote: from julian at 3:12 pm on Nov. 4, 2008
Quote: from Wilder at 4:35 pm on Nov. 4, 2008
Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 4:37 am on Nov. 4, 2008
Just keep in mind: God help you if you want a PhD so that you can teach.
Why? 
It is kind of the wrong reason to get a PhD. You should get a PhD because you want to be a lifelong student in a subject that you want to devote your life to. Teaching is something that goes along with this of course, but there is much more involved to obtaining a PhD than merely a desire to teach. 
You know people that want to teach on a college level but don't want to be lifelong students in the subjects that they will devote their lives to studying and teaching? 
No, I said the exact opposite. I even have profs that do not want to teach. They just do it because they have to. It's unfortunate, but a reality at many universities. 
My point was that I don't see how someone would want to become a prof. but not want to be a lifelong student of the field that they study.
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Quote: from iJeannie at 11:57 pm on Nov. 3, 2008
Is that the only thing you are studying? If not, what's the other thing? Why did you decide to study philosophy? What type of career goals do you think you'll have in the future? I keep hearing from people who are studying philosophy that they want to drop out. This just seems sad. Maybe they weren't cut for it but still I wonder. What's not to like? I do know there's lot's of readings, analysis, thinking, etc... but I don't think I would mind that. What do you think could be the issue? Lazy people? Thanks. 
1) I'm currently in my 2nd year, BA Philosophy/ law Student....(Philosophy being my major) 2) not sure....I think it was my 'fear of comittmant'...philosophy happens to be one of those few broad subject with an exceptional amount of scope. like for example my phil modules this year: Formal Logic (propositional calculus/predictates...its basically math) Phil of Art phil of Politics Phil of Epistimology (knowledge) Phil of Mind metaphysics so you see, part of the year I'm doing math, the next secound I'm looking at art and pondering 'what it is', then on rights and liberties, then unto how can we know 'what is'.....and so on. 3) in england at least, its a popular myth that Phil Grads are unemployable.... whereas, many employers look positivly on phil because of the skills it promotes; such as the abilities to reason, argue, think independantly and Abstractly.... ...But I dont have a fucking clue as to what I want to be.... 4) Philosophy can be fustrating at times... it give huges volumes of questions to think about (often questioning your intuitions and beliefs..eg. in god), yet fails to deliver awnsers... another reason might be many people only start to take it up, for the first time at uni...so nobody has any idea as to what it will be like.
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Wilder
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Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 7:31 pm on Nov. 4, 2008
Quote: from Wilder at 4:35 pm on Nov. 4, 2008
Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 4:37 am on Nov. 4, 2008
Just keep in mind: God help you if you want a PhD so that you can teach.
Why? 
There are a limited number of jobs, and most of them are occupied by 60 year old men that will NEVER DIE. 
True. I guess I'll have to pick out a nice school and start killing off its religious studies department now. I figure if I do it slowly with poison and stuff I'll avoid detection and they'll keel over about when I finish school. Post edited at 6:41 pm on Nov. 4, 2008 by Wilder
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6:40 pm on Nov. 4, 2008 | Joined: Dec. 2005 | Days Active: 1,084 Join to learn more about Wilder Colorado, United States | Gay Male | Posts: 8,886 | Points: 33,326
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jeez. Seems like all of a sudden someone mentions Philosophy and a religious battle starts somewhere.
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fenrir
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I'd gladly teach Theology and/or Philosophy on the University level.
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9:45 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 | Joined: Dec. 2002 | Days Active: 404 Join to learn more about fenrir Texas, United States | Straight Male | Posts: 2,867 | Points: 5,635
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