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Quote: from drifting at 7:00 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Quote: from Ashtrey8 at 6:57 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Quote: from h a t t at 3:56 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Quote: from Ashtrey8 at 6:55 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Lol. Windows Vista still sucks ass and they're already putting out a new one? What the fuck? Are they copying EA?

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  i like vista

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  I'm sorry? But honestly Vista still sucks. No operating system that classifies itself as a virus and has that many flaws in it like Vista does should be released, IMO.

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 Vista is perfectly fine. Obviously you havent ever seriously used it.  

 And yes, they are putting out a new one, partly because they did rush Vista. Vista was supposed to be all the things 7 is.

 I doubt we will see to many super new things in Win7, but it will be lightweight, and thats the biggest part of it.

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Thank God, it's actually light on system resources this time. :)

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They say it runs with ease, full desktop effects, on 1gb of RAM.

I was giving it 2gb on my VM. If this build is indeed the good one, Ill probably play with it a little bit, and see how low I can get it.

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I'm sorry? But honestly Vista still sucks. No operating system that classifies itself as a virus and has that many flaws in it like Vista does should be released, IMO.

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Classifies itself as a virus?  That sounds an awful lot like one of your system files got infected by a virus.  Either way, I've never heard of such a problem.

Personally, I'm using Vista 64 on some fairly weird hardware, and I still haven't had much problem with it.

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Quote: from Ashtrey8 at 6:57 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Quote: from h a t t at 3:56 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Quote: from Ashtrey8 at 6:55 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Lol. Windows Vista still sucks ass and they're already putting out a new one? What the fuck? Are they copying EA?

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  i like vista

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 I'm sorry? But honestly Vista still sucks. No operating system that classifies itself as a virus and has that many flaws in it like Vista does should be released, IMO.

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Vista is perfectly fine. Obviously you havent ever seriously used it.

And yes, they are putting out a new one, partly because they did rush Vista. Vista was supposed to be all the things 7 is.  

I doubt we will see to many super new things in Win7, but it will be lightweight, and thats the biggest part of it.

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It came installed on my new computer that I purchased a bit ago. It had everything up to date, but just to be sure I let it scan. It gave the entire source-code from Windows Vista as a malware, with parts as a virus. I figured it could be just a real virus or malware, so I re-installed the system. Again, same story. I ran a program I have to detect mistakes, which finds 37 mistakes at a fresh install of Windows XP, but it found 96 mistakes at a fresh install of Vista at it's most critical files.

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It came installed on my new computer that I purchased a bit ago. It had everything up to date, but just to be sure I let it scan. It gave the entire source-code from Windows Vista as a malware, with parts as a virus. I figured it could be just a real virus or malware, so I re-installed the system. Again, same story.

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Um, this is not a problem with Vista, it's a problem with the disk you were installing from.

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I ran a program I have to detect mistakes, which finds 37 mistakes at a fresh install of Windows XP, but it found 96 mistakes at a fresh install of Vista at it's most critical files.

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Given that this program verified that you had an invalid installation of the operating system, doesn't that pretty much clear up why you're having problems not present on proper installations of Vista?

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Quote: from Ashtrey8 at 7:06 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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It came installed on my new computer that I purchased a bit ago. It had everything up to date, but just to be sure I let it scan. It gave the entire source-code from Windows Vista as a malware, with parts as a virus. I figured it could be just a real virus or malware, so I re-installed the system. Again, same story.

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Um, this is not a problem with Vista, it's a problem with the disk you were installing from.

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I ran a program I have to detect mistakes, which finds 37 mistakes at a fresh install of Windows XP, but it found 96 mistakes at a fresh install of Vista at it's most critical files.

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Given that this program verified that you had an invalid installation of the operating system, doesn't that pretty much clear up why you're having problems not present on proper installations of Vista?

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It's possible, but it's enough reason for me to avoid Vista. Mainly because it's from Microsoft and they fucked up my computer too many times by their obnoxious "updates" and "failsaves" in the operating systems. They frigging installed virusses, trojans, key-trackers and grayware on my computer through their updates. Why wouldn't they fuck up with Vista?

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Quote: from drifting at 4:00 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Quote: from Ashtrey8 at 6:57 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Quote: from h a t t at 3:56 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Quote: from Ashtrey8 at 6:55 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Lol. Windows Vista still sucks ass and they're already putting out a new one? What the fuck? Are they copying EA?

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  i like vista

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  I'm sorry? But honestly Vista still sucks. No operating system that classifies itself as a virus and has that many flaws in it like Vista does should be released, IMO.

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 Vista is perfectly fine. Obviously you havent ever seriously used it.  

 And yes, they are putting out a new one, partly because they did rush Vista. Vista was supposed to be all the things 7 is.

 I doubt we will see to many super new things in Win7, but it will be lightweight, and thats the biggest part of it.

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It came installed on my new computer that I purchased a bit ago. It had everything up to date, but just to be sure I let it scan. It gave the entire source-code from Windows Vista as a malware, with parts as a virus. I figured it could be just a real virus or malware, so I re-installed the system. Again, same story. I ran a program I have to detect mistakes, which finds 37 mistakes at a fresh install of Windows XP, but it found 96 mistakes at a fresh install of Vista at it's most critical files.

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That is complete bullshit.

Learn something, and come back to me.

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Post edited at 4:20 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 by telomere13

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Ashtrey8, you're the only person I've ever heard of claiming to get viruses from Microsoft.  Seriously, if Microsoft Update was sending people viruses, everyone would get them, and at least someone who actually researches this stuff would have noticed.

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I bet he got an illegitimate copy of Vista, which of course would be loaded with spyware, keyloggers, etc...

If you are/were actually having this problem, you should/should have contacted Microsoft.

BTW: Vista is amazing.

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Ashtrey8, you're the only person I've ever heard of claiming to get viruses from Microsoft.  Seriously, if Microsoft Update was sending people viruses, everyone would get them, and at least someone who actually researches this stuff would have noticed.

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I actually had a document with the name of the updates on my old computer. I send a faction of that to Microsoft and they did take out a few of them after they checked them out. And just you haven't heard of it before, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I've heard it from multiple people that they got virusses installed on their computer due to Microsoft's website. Not by the "update" thingie, but by manual updating.

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Quote: from telomere13 at 4:20 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Ashtrey8, you're the only person I've ever heard of claiming to get viruses from Microsoft. Seriously, if Microsoft Update was sending people viruses, everyone would get them, and at least someone who actually researches this stuff would have noticed.

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I actually had a document with the name of the updates on my old computer. I send a faction of that to Microsoft and they did take out a few of them after they checked them out. And just you haven't heard of it before, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I've heard it from multiple people that they got virusses installed on their computer due to Microsoft's website. Not by the "update" thingie, but by manual updating.

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No, you dont understand, that just doesnt happen with a legitimate copy of anything.

Microsoft would NEVER release a virus on their site.

If someone is downloading beta updates, or installing the wrong update, and its making their machine unstable, thats there own fault for not getting the right download. It still isnt a virus or any sort of malware.

If I was you, I would quit with this argument before you come out looking like a complete moron (or at least more of a complete moron)

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Quote: from Ashtrey8 at 7:52 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Quote: from telomere13 at 4:20 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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Ashtrey8, you're the only person I've ever heard of claiming to get viruses from Microsoft.  Seriously, if Microsoft Update was sending people viruses, everyone would get them, and at least someone who actually researches this stuff would have noticed.

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 I actually had a document with the name of the updates on my old computer. I send a faction of that to Microsoft and they did take out a few of them after they checked them out. And just you haven't heard of it before, doesn't mean it didn't happen.  

 I've heard it from multiple people that they got virusses installed on their computer due to Microsoft's website. Not by the "update" thingie, but by manual updating.

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No, you dont understand, that just doesnt happen with a legitimate copy of anything.

Microsoft would NEVER release a virus on their site.  

If someone is downloading beta updates, or installing the wrong update, and its making their machine unstable, thats there own fault for not getting the right download. It still isnt a virus or any sort of malware.

If I was you, I would quit with this argument before you come out looking like a complete moron (or at least more of a complete moron)

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I've had too trouble with messy back-door operating systems to rely on them fully anymore. Those things came straight from a store baught authentic Windows XP cd. Microsoft is a huge-ass company and does make mistakes. Trying to show it off like they never have virusses on their websites is like saying Defence departments never fuck up. Maybe intentionally by Microshit or corrupted by a hacker, all I know is that my computer got fucked over multiple times by virusses that came with the update files from Windows XP. And not just my computer.

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I actually had a document with the name of the updates on my old computer. I send a faction of that to Microsoft and they did take out a few of them after they checked them out. And just you haven't heard of it before, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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I'm sorry, but I would know about this if it had occurred.  Of course, you no longer have this list, nor any recollection of which uptades they were, nor any of the e-mails sent between you and Microsoft, yes?

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I've heard it from multiple people that they got virusses installed on their computer due to Microsoft's website. Not by the "update" thingie, but by manual updating.

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This is very common.  The "updates" were not coming from Microsoft's website, but something imitating Microsoft's website.  Even if the URL was "microsoft.com," URL's can be spoofed in this way.

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Quote: from Ashtrey8 at 7:52 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

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I actually had a document with the name of the updates on my old computer. I send a faction of that to Microsoft and they did take out a few of them after they checked them out. And just you haven't heard of it before, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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I'm sorry, but I would know about this if it had occurred.  Of course, you no longer have this list, nor any recollection of which uptades they were, nor any of the e-mails sent between you and Microsoft, yes?

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I've heard it from multiple people that they got virusses installed on their computer due to Microsoft's website. Not by the "update" thingie, but by manual updating.

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This is very common.  The "updates" were not coming from Microsoft's website, but something imitating Microsoft's website.  Even if the URL was "microsoft.com," URL's can be spoofed in this way.

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These things happened over at least 2 years ago and I informed Microsoft. I don't see why I should've kept it. As for the mails, I'm signed up at Yahoo, they didn't have unlimited mails at that time and I had to delete some mails to have storage. So yeah... It's not like I knew that you'd want to see them 2 years after date.

Can they also be spoofed that by clicking on the link to the Windows Update site in Win XP, you get those sites?

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Can they also be spoofed that by clicking on the link to the Windows Update site in Win XP, you get those sites?

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Given that your friends probably already had some amount of malware that could potentially be doing whatever it wants, nothing is out of the question.

For the record, I download my updates as soon as they come out, and have always done so, and I have never gotten any malware delivered to me from Microsoft's servers.  

Your making an extraordinarily dubious assumption and providing absolutely no evidence, and given how easily computers can become infected with malware (even through no fault of the user) which can pose as Microsoft, it is very clear that Microsoft is not actually delivering viruses.

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