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the paradox of god
Replies: 36 — Last Post Nov. 3, 2008 3:27am by Viddian
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Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 11:25 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
God is everything.
do you believe in a devil as well?
I believe in the Tao
ahh, would you believe that god is not a being, but a force instead? a verb rather than a noun?
I repeat, God is everything.
everything is a noun lol
Thanks for the English lesson?

Just think about it.

i know. "everything" is a noun, but not every thing.
8:31 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
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The Wolfhound


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Cut it out. None can prove anything. I'm agnostic, and I like it. I just don't care. Topics like these lead to nothing. Maybe ban :-P

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God is everything. He is the alpha and omega. He is the black and the white. He is all-encompassing. He cannot be defined.

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And you, demon, what do you have faith in?
Nothing. I am so exquisitely empty
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Quote: from The Wolfhound at 11:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
Cut it out. None can prove anything. I'm agnostic, and I like it. I just don't care. Topics like these lead to nothing. Maybe ban :-P
I was joking... i dont care either. this is nowhere near ban strength, it's a debate of philosophy and language apparently. i'm not trying to prove anything, just broaden my own perspective. If you dont like it, leave.
8:34 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
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Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 11:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
God is everything. He is the alpha and omega. He is the black and the white. He is all-encompassing. He cannot be defined.
even though by using the pronoun "he" you just gave god a gender and a body.
8:35 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
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Quote: from Anonymous at 8:35 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 11:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
God is everything. He is the alpha and omega. He is the black and the white. He is all-encompassing. He cannot be defined.
even though by using the pronoun "he" you just gave god a gender and a body.
Habit. I was raised Christian.

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Nothing. I am so exquisitely empty
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Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 11:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
God is everything. He is the alpha and omega. He is the black and the white. He is all-encompassing. He cannot be defined.
even though by using the pronoun "he" you just gave god a gender and a body.
Habit. I was raised Christian.
i understand, just a funny oversight. lol.
8:37 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
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Haha, good point. And, anonymous, I did not mean you'd be banned. I'm just saying ppl tend to fight and curse over this, report each other. Ends up with ban. I meant no offence to you and your topic...

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Quote: from The Wolfhound at 11:37 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
Haha, good point. And, anonymous, I did not mean you'd be banned. I'm just saying ppl tend to fight and curse over this, report each other. Ends up with ban. I meant no offence to you and your topic...
oh it's alright, this is pretty benign as a matter of fact. i'm not really looking for a fight, just some intellectual conversation i cant get with my gf really...
8:38 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
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Wow, because we haven't heard that argument over 9000 times on this forum alone.

And my view is that all religions worship some aspect of the same one God, pantheons represent multiple facets (or similar beings to angels). Or perhaps monotheists are the ones that don't have it quite right, and it's actually a pantheon. I guess I'm something of an agnostic theist but I avoid saying that because people don't know what agnostic actually means. Whatever.

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Quote: from Anonymous at 5:24 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
Many MANY religions insist that god is perfect, and yet the ultimate good. if perfect represents all-encompassing, than isn't God evil as well? and insane? and immoral? in some instances.  

 
If so, the devil cant exist, because the opposite of god would be nothingness.

You are trying to dig a hole through solid steel.

Applying logic and reason to deities is a futile effort. Gods are inherently illogical and nonsensical.

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the devil exsits for balance . yin and yang

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What you consider evil and what "God" considers evil are two different things.
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Quote: from Anonymous at 11:24 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
Many MANY religions insist that god is perfect, and yet the ultimate good. if perfect represents all-encompassing, than isn't God evil as well? and insane? and immoral? in some instances.  

 
If so, the devil cant exist, because the opposite of god would be nothingness.

I think your paradox might stem from your self-made definition of perfection.

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Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 8:08 am on Nov. 2, 2008
Quote: from Anonymous at 11:24 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
Many MANY religions insist that god is perfect, and yet the ultimate good. if perfect represents all-encompassing, than isn't God evil as well? and insane? and immoral? in some instances.

 
 If so, the devil cant exist, because the opposite of god would be nothingness.

I think your paradox might stem from your self-made definition of perfection.

This.

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