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If I believe in the values of the bible...
Replies: 34Last Post Nov. 2, 2008 9:47pm by andymac1
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But don't believe in god, why is it that I'm not allowed into 'heaven'?

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because heaven doesn't exist and neither does god

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Because you can't go somewhere that does not exist.

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Quote: from Praise the Lard at 12:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

because heaven doesn't exist and neither does god

You beat me to it.
:(

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Quote: from Praise the Lard at 12:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

because heaven doesn't exist and neither does god

Oh I don't care, i just want to know what makes me different from any other caring person.

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something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.


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Because the foundation of Christianity is based around acceptance of Jesus as the son of God, etc etc.

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Quote: from Everlongx at 12:34 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Praise the Lard at 12:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

because heaven doesn't exist and neither does god

Oh I don't care, i just want to know what makes me different from any other caring person.


You are not different than any other "caring" person, no one can go to Heaven, because Heaven does not exist.

Get it yet?

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But I'm afraid that someone else will hear me.


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Quote: from misssmadejavuu at 12:35 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Everlongx at 12:34 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Praise the Lard at 12:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

because heaven doesn't exist and neither does god
 

 Oh I don't care, i just want to know what makes me different from any other caring person.


You are not different than any other "caring" person, no one can go to Heaven, because Heaven does not exist.  

Get it yet?


... no shit. I was saying that I'm not.
-_-

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Quote: from misssmadejavuu at 3:35 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Everlongx at 12:34 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Praise the Lard at 12:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

because heaven doesn't exist and neither does god
 

 Oh I don't care, i just want to know what makes me different from any other caring person.


You are not different than any other "caring" person, no one can go to Heaven, because Heaven does not exist.  

Get it yet?


Pwn.

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Quote: from Everlongx at 12:34 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Praise the Lard at 12:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

because heaven doesn't exist and neither does god

Oh I don't care, i just want to know what makes me different from any other caring person.


Because, apparently, you can be a horrible, disgusting, judgemental person, but as long as you believe in Jesus and confess your sins, you will get into heaven, but that wonderfully nice gay man down the street won't, because he's gay...  


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Quote: from OodleNoodle at 12:36 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Everlongx at 12:34 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Praise the Lard at 12:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

because heaven doesn't exist and neither does god
 

 Oh I don't care, i just want to know what makes me different from any other caring person.


Because, apparently, you can be a horrible, disgusting, judgemental person, but as long as you believe in Jesus and confess your sins, you will get into heaven, but that wonderfully nice gay man down the street won't, because he's gay...



And this is one of the reasons I believe that religion is garbage.

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But I'm afraid that someone else will hear me.


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Quote: from OodleNoodle at 12:36 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Everlongx at 12:34 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Praise the Lard at 12:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

because heaven doesn't exist and neither does god
 

 Oh I don't care, i just want to know what makes me different from any other caring person.


Because, apparently, you can be a horrible, disgusting, judgemental person, but as long as you believe in Jesus and confess your sins, you will get into heaven, but that wonderfully nice gay man down the street won't, because he's gay...


Amen to that.

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The grand essentials of happiness are:
something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.


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Quote: from Everlongx at 12:34 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Praise the Lard at 12:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

because heaven doesn't exist and neither does god

Oh I don't care, i just want to know what makes me different from any other caring person.


you can't get a set of values from a book which commands you to kill adulterers. you must have preset values, which are probably where you differ from other people, since no two people are the same.

regarding the god thing, it doesn't affect how morally different you are from someone who does believe. though it could potentially mean that your motives are true and less selfish. is it really moral to do good if you are expecting an immense reward for it


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Quote: from Everlongx at 12:35 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from misssmadejavuu at 12:35 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Everlongx at 12:34 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Praise the Lard at 12:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

because heaven doesn't exist and neither does god

  Oh I don't care, i just want to know what makes me different from any other caring person.


 

 You are not different than any other "caring" person, no one can go to Heaven, because Heaven does not exist.

 Get it yet?


... no shit. I was saying that I'm not.
-_-



And I was just saying that Heaven does not exist,  I can point out the obvious too.
See?

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Quote: from Praise the Lard at 12:37 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Everlongx at 12:34 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

Quote: from Praise the Lard at 12:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008

because heaven doesn't exist and neither does god
 

 Oh I don't care, i just want to know what makes me different from any other caring person.


you can't get a set of values from a book which commands you to kill adulterers. you must have preset values, which are probably where you differ from other people, since no two people are the same.

regarding the god thing, it doesn't affect how morally different you are from someone who does believe. though it could potentially mean that your motives are true and less selfish. is it really moral to do good if you are expecting an immense reward for it


That is true, religion tries to use the "after life" of Heaven or Hell, to make people be "good", when in reality when you die you just decompose in a box underground.


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I wanna scream" I Love You" from the top of my lungs,

But I'm afraid that someone else will hear me.


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