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gronk
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Quote: from Praise the Lard at 7:06 pm on Nov. 1, 2008
 Quote: from gronk at 12:58 am on Nov. 1, 2008
exactly, praise the Lard went out and made that claim that God doesnt exist, so he has to back that up. I didnt make a claim either way, although I will shortly
wait are you saying that by saying that god doesn't exist i'm making a positive claim
I dont think positive means yes, there is. My understanding by positive in this case means confident or dictionary.com 12a "constructive and sure, rather than skeptical" So you are making the confident claim that God doesnt exist, its your responsibility to show me why. Do it, I dare you!
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Quote: from gronk at 1:14 am on Nov. 1, 2008
Quote: from Praise the Lard at 7:06 pm on Nov. 1, 2008
Quote: from gronk at 12:58 am on Nov. 1, 2008
exactly, praise the Lard went out and made that claim that God doesnt exist, so he has to back that up. I didnt make a claim either way, although I will shortly
wait are you saying that by saying that god doesn't exist i'm making a positive claim
I dont think positive means yes, there is. My understanding by positive in this case means confident or dictionary.com 12a "constructive and sure, rather than skeptical" So you are making the confident claim that God doesnt exist, its your responsibility to show me why. Do it, I dare you!
can you fucking read
my claim is skeptical, not positive.
sorry but the burden of proof is on you. i can't disprove the existence of god, but as i just pointed out, i can't disprove the existence of odin, ammon-ra, or zeus. that doesn't mean there's any reason justifying believe in them; there is simply no evidence suggesting their existence.
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MaryLin
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You have to accept the Trinity and whatnot and believe that Jesus is your savior and whatnot, and first of all, be christened...
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OodleNoodle
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Quote: from barnabas at 2:55 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
Quote: from OodleNoodle at 2:36 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
Quote: from Everlongx at 12:34 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
Quote: from Praise the Lard at 12:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008
because heaven doesn't exist and neither does god
Oh I don't care, i just want to know what makes me different from any other caring person.
Because, apparently, you can be a horrible, disgusting, judgemental person, but as long as you believe in Jesus and confess your sins, you will get into heaven, but that wonderfully nice gay man down the street won't, because he's gay... 
what a horrible, untrue charicature of the Christian faith.
Charicature? Not in my experience. The vast majority of Christians I know - I would venture to say about 90% at least - are judgmental, closed-minded people who condemn anyone who doesn't think the way they do. They constantly use their energies to spread hatred against gay people, pro-choicers, other religions etc. etc. etc. When I was 12 years old, I was attacked by "Christians" who told me that I was a horrible, disgusting person because I didn't go to church and they told my Hindi friend that she was "wrong" and that she was going to hell. Not exactly a lovable bunch. Post edited at 6:18 pm on Nov. 2, 2008 by OodleNoodle
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andymac1
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Because if you don't believe in God, you don't believe in Jesus so according to the Bible since Jesus is the only into heaven, you don't get to go :\.
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