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Replies: 115 Last Post Nov. 3, 2008 8:46am by kidd rune
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Quote: from kidd rune at 7:38 am on Oct. 30, 2008
No, but the sports have been altered and you can't say there are only Whites in them. 
So? I don't know any sports with only blacks in them either.
Plenty" is another one of you opinions
Hey I can have "opinions" too so log as I dont' pass it as science and proof like you do.
it is NOT anywhere close to WET. 
Describe what would be on WET and then we can talk more on that.
"Wiener Schnitzel, Sausage, Bratwurst" aren't really served here (except breakfast sausage). 
I know about 2 restaurants in my city where they serve those. I never been there bec its expensive but they real popular. In most stores where I live they sell brockwurst and all kinds of sausages wth german names.
I NEVER said White culture DOESN'T EXIST IN ANY FORM here. 
You said you COULDN"T "PRACTICE WHITE CULTURE".
I just flipped on PBS and got some Chinese American show. It FAILED to deliver White culture.
As I said if your PBS stations don't deliver what you want then write to them. Not sur e why or how but we got 3 or 4 PBS stations and one of them delivers British stuff ALL day long every day. They even mention it in the ads too. Its not like there are 1000 times more British than mexicans in my city eithr. But SOMEONE must have asked for what THEY wanted and they GOT it. Instead of bitching like a stupid ass all day long.
Again, where did I say absolutely no White culture exists? 
You were bitching that you could NOT practice your White culture. Made it sound like you have ZERO access to white culture. Turns out you were just lying.
There is too much of a Latin American influence on it - you would think my school is IN Puerto Rico. 
Explain why/how. What is the % of non-hispanic white in your school?
Well, I just saw something on Chinese Americans. 
Ok. What did you watch other days. How often you watch PBS anyway? You even TRY to catch the good stuff?
He's fake? What do you mean? 
British ppl who DONT KNOW about Miss Marple or never heard of Sherlock holmes are fake.
PBS isn't going to do shit if I say I want more White culture and less nonWhite culture on it.
If you put it THAT way maybe not (because thats too vague and stupid) If you write a letter saying EXACTLY WHAT shows you DO want (more symphonies, more travel in Europe, more European history, more British shows ) they WILL listen. If you go to PBS.org and look at what they got and select what you WANT and write them to say thats what you WANT and get enough ppl to write and agree with you, then they WILL do something. The list of stuff PBS got is HUGE. If you select ONLY the eruopean stuff I bet you can fill up the ENTIRE program for every day and All day. As I said that PBS channel with British focus didn't happen by itseld. Enough ppl wrote and said what they wanted. it wasn't me or my hispnaic buddies that did that. It wasn't my mom or our neighbors. It was ppl that obviously LIKED british stuff.
Did I say White culture doesn't exist on PBS in any form? 
If you look at all that listing I'd say that's mostly white/european culture. YOUR problem is you want it ONLY 100% white. Not gonna happen. Even BET is NOT 100% black. Even hispanics-speaking channels re not 100% mestizo. You know why? because TV channels ppl are NOT dummies. They know that even if they focus on some ppl its in THEIR BEST INTEREST to make the program as varied as possible and appeal to the WIDEST range of ppl. The main reason all the main other channels try to atttract ppl of ALL races is because the MORE ppl they attract the MORE MONEY they get. PBS is differnt because its PUBLIC FUNDED so you CAN make it pretty narrow so long as you SAY what you WANT.
he said a lot of the "British" shows weren't really British. 
Im pretty sure Miss Marple and Doctor Who are 100% british. What shows is he talking about anyway?
My area is about 1/6 Black, 1/3 White, and 1/2 Hispanic. 
Then that's one of the reason. You really a small minority at this point. so you go throuh what most minorities go through usually which is you ignored or you thought as second fiddle. The culture of the majority is basically pawning you and that sucks. What you really should do instead of going into bitchy race nationalist mode (which is NOT gonn end up in ANYTHING good I can garantee that) is to file for discrimination lawsuits if you feel you been given the shaft. Protest and speak out about it. Ask for special stuff and more representation of your culture. I know it sounds weird because basically you are a minority inside a majority. That is you a local minority but a national majority. But it don't change the fact. If you feel things are unjust or not right and you don't get enough representation for your culture then yeah speak out and ask for whats right. But acting and being racialist is not gonna give you anything from anyone. The racialist thing is lame and ppl despise it from anyone white, black, asian etc... We no longer in a world where that makes sense or does any good to anyone. And really WET is all wet. its sounds lame and desperate and whiney. Ask for a European Culture Channel or something. Ask for something called Klassik Kultur if you want where you can have German culture and news and stuff all day long. Ask for BBC america. (I think it even exists on satellite or prime cable) But stop acting like a bitch and whine. Just act but like a positive guy with a spine.
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So? I don't know any sports with only blacks in them either. 
Do they play sports on BET? I actually don't know this - don't really watch BET.
Hey I can have "opinions" too so log as I dont' pass it as science and proof like you do. 
I can't prove an opinion, but I can back it up with facts.
Describe what would be on WET and then we can talk more on that. 
Refer to my culture list. Nothing that isn't on there will be on WET.
I know about 2 restaurants in my city where they serve those. I never been there bec its expensive but they real popular. In most stores where I live they sell brockwurst and all kinds of sausages wth german names. 
Good for you.
You said you COULDN"T "PRACTICE WHITE CULTURE". 
In a public setting, I can't practice White culture only - there always has to be some Latin America intertwined. WET won't have any of that foreign culture (if it ever exists, which I doubt will happen).
As I said if your PBS stations don't deliver what you want then write to them. Not sur e why or how but we got 3 or 4 PBS stations and one of them delivers British stuff ALL day long every day. They even mention it in the ads too. 
They're not going to do anything, no matter how many letters I write.
Its not like there are 1000 times more British than mexicans in my city eithr. But SOMEONE must have asked for what THEY wanted and they GOT it. Instead of bitching like a stupid ass all day long. 
They didn't ask for it - or someone who chooses the stations wants ONLY British stuff. Seriously, I might just write a letter and watch nothing happen just to show you. I'll even translate it into Spanish so I can make sure everyone can read it.
You were bitching that you could NOT practice your White culture. Made it sound like you have ZERO access to white culture. Turns out you were just lying. 
"Nade it sound like" doesn't mean I said it. What I mean is - There is a constant Latin American cultural influence on my area.
Explain why/how. What is the % of non-hispanic white in your school? 
13.9% - but, then again, not EVERY Hispanic is counted as Hispanic, but nonHispanics aren't counted as Hispanic EVER.
Ok. What did you watch other days. How often you watch PBS anyway? You even TRY to catch the good stuff? 
"good stuff" hahaha! Well, whenever I'm on the TV I check my PBS channels to see what's on.
British ppl who DONT KNOW about Miss Marple or never heard of Sherlock holmes are fake. 
He didn't say that British culture doesn't exist on PBS, just that some of the British shows aren't really British, just an Americanized version of Britain.
If you put it THAT way maybe not (because thats too vague and stupid) If you write a letter saying EXACTLY WHAT shows you DO want (more symphonies, more travel in Europe, more European history, more British shows ) they WILL listen. If you go to PBS.org and look at what they got and select what you WANT and write them to say thats what you WANT and get enough ppl to write and agree with you, then they WILL do something. The list of stuff PBS got is HUGE. If you select ONLY the eruopean stuff I bet you can fill up the ENTIRE program for every day and All day. As I said that PBS channel with British focus didn't happen by itseld. Enough ppl wrote and said what they wanted. it wasn't me or my hispnaic buddies that did that. It wasn't my mom or our neighbors. It was ppl that obviously LIKED british stuff. 
You do know when they say that stuff they really don't mean it - they just want to make you feel like you can change something. And, again, you said if I get "enough people" - there aren't many Whites around here.
If you look at all that listing I'd say that's mostly white/european culture. YOUR problem is you want it ONLY 100% white. Not gonna happen. Even BET is NOT 100% black. Even hispanics-speaking channels re not 100% mestizo. You know why? because TV channels ppl are NOT dummies. They know that even if they focus on some ppl its in THEIR BEST INTEREST to make the program as varied as possible and appeal to the WIDEST range of ppl. The main reason all the main other channels try to atttract ppl of ALL races is because the MORE ppl they attract the MORE MONEY they get. PBS is differnt because its PUBLIC FUNDED so you CAN make it pretty narrow so long as you SAY what you WANT. 
BET that doesn't display Black culture? What a retarded channel. Look - if they want to watch BET, and want to see Hispanic, European, Asian, or Australian culture, they can flip to an ASIAN, EUROPEAN, or AUSTRALIAN CHANNEL.
Im pretty sure Miss Marple and Doctor Who are 100% british. What shows is he talking about anyway? 
Some of the ones on the site that supposedly claimed British influence - I'll look them up later.
Then that's one of the reason. You really a small minority at this point. so you go throuh what most minorities go through usually which is you ignored or you thought as second fiddle. The culture of the majority is basically pawning you and that sucks. What you really should do instead of going into bitchy race nationalist mode (which is NOT gonn end up in ANYTHING good I can garantee that) is to file for discrimination lawsuits if you feel you been given the shaft. Protest and speak out about it. Ask for special stuff and more representation of your culture. 
File discrimination lawsuits? I'm not a pussy. Nationalist mode? What's wrong with that - that is the ONLY POSSIBLE WAY to defeat this minority bullshit.
I know it sounds weird because basically you are a minority inside a majority. That is you a local minority but a national majority. But it don't change the fact. If you feel things are unjust or not right and you don't get enough representation for your culture then yeah speak out and ask for whats right. 
I don't want their culture to be ended because of mine either - these leeches are here to stay, but I'm not.
But acting and being racialist is not gonna give you anything from anyone. The racialist thing is lame and ppl despise it from anyone white, black, asian etc... We no longer in a world where that makes sense or does any good to anyone. 
It does do good to people actually. Are you saying a White nation is bad for Whites?
And really WET is all wet. its sounds lame and desperate and whiney. Ask for a European Culture Channel or something. Ask for something called Klassik Kultur if you want where you can have German culture and news and stuff all day long. Ask for BBC america. (I think it even exists on satellite or prime cable) 
I have BBC America. But, again, you're using Britain as an example - Britain isn't. Have you been there in a while? Britain is become less and less British, many say it's the biggest case of a majority letting themselves become a minority.
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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:27 am on Oct. 31, 2008
Do they play sports on BET? I actually don't know this - don't really watch BET. 
BET is about Black ENTERTAINMENT. Its mostly music, shows, comedy and interviews. I mean sometimes they interview a black athlet but no theres no sports in it.
I can back it up with facts. 
Not really. Most of what you do is claim its "common sense" or give support from totally biased sources.
Refer to my culture list. Nothing that isn't on there will be on WET. 
What is there going to be in it thats NOT on History Channel A&E PBS BBC America Discovery Channel Science channel etc...
In a public setting, I can't practice White culture only 
Do you play any music? Can you recite a poem or tell a story? Can you speak English? If yes then you CAN practice it in public. Do you have ppl who play Shakespeare in the park or have plays where you live? Are there classic music concerts where you live?
WET won't have any of that foreign culture 
"Foreign" depends on what you mean. British can be foreign. French can be foreign. Italian can be foreign. Anything not "amde or created in the US' can be "foreign"
They're not going to do anything, no matter how many letters I write. 
If ou start out giving up before you even started you are doomed anyway. You just enjoy bitching and staying in your own shit and crying about it insted of making your life better.
Seriously, I might just write a letter and watch nothing happen just to show you. I'll even translate it into Spanish so I can make sure everyone can read it. 
Go ahead and do that. Send the letters to all 7 stations. Send me a copy so I can tell if its cool. Get your buddies to send letters too. If they don't do shit then I'll take your side on it.
What I mean is - There is a constant Latin American cultural influence on my area. 
Givn that they majority in your area I don't think you can't help that. You live in a democracy where majority rules. The point is that if the majority starts tramping you down then you got a right to cry foul.
13.9% 
Well thats low and thats why you surrounded by hispanic stuff.
Well, whenever I'm on the TV I check my PBS channels to see what's on. 
I looked today and they had John Denver on. Pretty white blonde blue eyed guy. Real popular. Even the ppl trying to get us to "pledge" money were white as snow.
just that some of the British shows aren't really British, just an Americanized version of Britain. 
Which one Im just curious.
You do know when they say that stuff they really don't mean it - they just want to make you feel like you can change something. 
The point is that we got one of the PBS stations with about 90% british stuff in it. Put of 3 PBS stations I get. the rest has great majority european stuff which I listed to you. I bet the Briish center station didn't happen overnight. Since everyone knows where I live anyway I give you the name of it http://www.kteh.org/tv/british/ PBS is VIEWER SUPPORTED. If no on watches they fucked. Because they dont get ads. They can only get their money fromtaxes and pledges.
BET that doesn't display Black culture? What a retarded channel. 
It doesn't put in ONLY black ppl or black music in it. Lrn2read
Look - if they want to watch BET, and want to see Hispanic, European, Asian, or Australian culture, they can flip to an ASIAN, EUROPEAN, or AUSTRALIAN CHANNEL. 
Or maybe they know that ppl are not totally 100% divided cleanly. Theres black hispanics, Theres backs with white relatives. Theres blacks that like asians etc... You just think the world is divided totally along race. Its not that retarded.
File discrimination lawsuits? I'm not a pussy. 
You're an idiot AND a pussy. You jsut want t bitch about how booohoohoo you get the shaft and you can't "practice" your culture and whites can't do this and that. But when it comes to standing your ground and making a piint and working for it then you chicken out.
Nationalist mode? What's wrong with that - that is the ONLY POSSIBLE WAY to defeat this minority bullshit.
You ARE a minority in your area. Thats WHY you got trouble. But minorities are protecte in a democracy. Nationalist more is stupid.
I don't want their culture to be ended because of mine either
It won't end. Yours will just co-exist.
- these leeches are here to stay, but I'm not. 
You're the biggest leech ever. have you even tried to HELP your community and your ppl? All you do is bitch on a forum. Thats a total leech attitude.
It does do good to people actually. Are you saying a White nation is bad for Whites? 
Yep. The world is based on ppl help EACH other regardless of race and creed. We all need each other.
I have BBC America. 
Can't get more white than that channel.
But, again, you're using Britain as an example - Britain isn't.
Not sure what you mean. British culture is pretty white.
Britain is become less and less British, many say it's the biggest case of a majority letting themselves become a minority.
If Britain did not like nonwhites it should not have gone to colonize india and pakistan.
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BET is about Black ENTERTAINMENT. Its mostly music, shows, comedy and interviews. I mean sometimes they interview a black athlet but no theres no sports in it. 
Well that may be because most of the sports Blacks play are White.
Not really. Most of what you do is claim its "common sense" or give support from totally biased sources. 
You can call anything biased - it doesn't mean it is. Just because it was written by a WN doesn't make it biased either - you have to find biased opinions and missing facts in there to claim that it's biased - which STILL doesn't make it false.
What is there going to be in it thats NOT on History Channel A&E PBS BBC America Discovery Channel Science channel etc... 
I'm sure White culture is on those channels, but they aren't devoted to White culture and FOR Whites.
Do you play any music? Can you recite a poem or tell a story? Can you speak English? If yes then you CAN practice it in public. 
I CAN practice SOME in public, but not as I WANT to. I want NO nonWhite influence, and - as you know - that can't happen in a multicultural society.
Do you have ppl who play Shakespeare in the park or have plays where you live? 
NO - I DON'T.
Are there classic music concerts where you live? 
Nope.
"Foreign" depends on what you mean. British can be foreign. French can be foreign. Italian can be foreign. Anything not "amde or created in the US' can be "foreign" 
By foreign I mean nonWhite.
If ou start out giving up before you even started you are doomed anyway. You just enjoy bitching and staying in your own shit and crying about it insted of making your life better. 
I'm not an optimistic retard like you - and this shithole will just make my life WORSE the longer I stay, a few "betters" may fix a few things, but it's falling down into a multicultural pile of shit faster than anyone could imagine.
Go ahead and do that. Send the letters to all 7 stations. Send me a copy so I can tell if its cool. Get your buddies to send letters too. If they don't do shit then I'll take your side on it. 
Could you translate it into Spanish for me too?
Givn that they majority in your area I don't think you can't help that. You live in a democracy where majority rules. The point is that if the majority starts tramping you down then you got a right to cry foul. 
I'd rather let them have their fun and not fuck with their lives - and live somewhere where this will NEVER happen.
Well thats low and thats why you surrounded by hispanic stuff. 
Holy shit, I never thought of it that way! AMAZING!
I looked today and they had John Denver on. Pretty white blonde blue eyed guy. Real popular. Even the ppl trying to get us to "pledge" money were white as snow. 
And not one instance of nonWhite culture or nonWhite anything? Not ONE?
Which one Im just curious. 
Don't remember the damn name - but I don't have Sherlock Holmes or Mrs Marple on my PBS...
The point is that we got one of the PBS stations with about 90% british stuff in it. Put of 3 PBS stations I get. the rest has great majority european stuff which I listed to you. I bet the Briish center station didn't happen overnight. Since everyone knows where I live anyway I give you the name of it http://www.kteh.org/tv/british/ PBS is VIEWER SUPPORTED. If no on watches they fucked. Because they dont get ads. They can only get their money fromtaxes and pledges. 
Well, lucky you - we don't have this.
It doesn't put in ONLY black ppl or black music in it. Lrn2read 
Well, I'm not going to do anything about it - I wish that it was different though. Each race has a right to choose what it wants to happen to its race - if Negroes want to have their channel covered in nonNegro culture, they can do that. But, many Whites, including me, want an all-White channel void of nonWhite culture - but THAT AIN'T HAPPENING.
Or maybe they know that ppl are not totally 100% divided cleanly. Theres black hispanics, Theres backs with white relatives. Theres blacks that like asians etc... You just think the world is divided totally along race. Its not that retarded. 
Well, if they choose be be considered 1/2 something and 1/2 the other, they can watch BOTH. Lucky them!
You're an idiot AND a pussy. You jsut want t bitch about how booohoohoo you get the shaft and you can't "practice" your culture and whites can't do this and that. But when it comes to standing your ground and making a piint and working for it then you chicken out. 
You don't understand Jakelong, you really don't. Any positive change I want to make will result in being labeled racist. I could get KILLED for standing up for myself. I could go join a White pride group, such as the KKK, but if a group of Negroes find out this happens, I AM DEAD. If I want to Join a Neo-Nazi group to find ONLY WHITE CULTURE - I WILL GET KILLED. I want to get AWAY from all other influences - the ONLY way to do this is to have a country reserved for my race. That is the SAFEST, LEAST RACIST, MOST HUMANE, and, in my opinion, the BEST CHOICE. If you think I can somehow practice my culture without the influence of other cultures in this multicultural shithole, please, TELL ME HOW. But, no matter how many people tell PBS to play ONLY White things, it WILL NOT HAPPEN.
You ARE a minority in your area. Thats WHY you got trouble. But minorities are protecte in a democracy. Nationalist more is stupid. 
1 - Whites aren't protected here. 2 - Nationalism is the thought that we should have our own nation - no majority or minority problems, JUST Whites.
It won't end. Yours will just co-exist. 
It will end - when Whites mix out, leave, or get drowned in other culture. It WILL happen and HAS happened in other places before.
You're the biggest leech ever. have you even tried to HELP your community and your ppl? All you do is bitch on a forum. Thats a total leech attitude. 
Yes, I have helped my community. I used to be a tutor for free and got a shit load of community service hours for college. But, alas, the most needed tutors are the ones teaching English to ESOL students - something I don't care about. Now I just help out my friends, but they rarely need help in anything but programming class. But, THAT is leechier than coming to a place NOT speaking the language, demanding it to change, getting free stuff all the time, getting pissy at the schools for not speaking MY language, ect.
Yep. The world is based on ppl help EACH other regardless of race and creed. We all need each other. 
A tornado comes - your house and your neighbors house collapse. Whose house are you going to fix first?
Can't get more white than that channel. 
Have we seen the same TV? I've seen nonWhite culture on it plenty of times.
Not sure what you mean. British culture is pretty white. 
Britain isn't really to White anymore.
If Britain did not like nonwhites it should not have gone to colonize india and pakistan. 
For TRADE! They didn't really love them that much if you though they did... Europe fought over India for a long time to get all of the resources they have.
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Quote: from kidd rune at 1:40 pm on Nov. 1, 2008
Well that may be because most of the sports Blacks play are White. 
More like Entertainment =/= Sports. There are different channels for sports.
You can call anything biased - it doesn't mean it is. 
Sure. In your cse it still is. It is biased towards racialist thinking.
which STILL doesn't make it false. 
Biased doesn't mean false always. Go find out what biased means.
I'm sure White culture is on those channels, but they aren't devoted to White culture and FOR Whites. 
Since they usually for majority of white vewers I'd say its still devoted to them. Its just NOT EXCLUSIVE. But NO channel really is.
I CAN practice SOME in public, but not as I WANT to.
Example?
I want NO nonWhite influence, and - as you know - that can't happen in a multicultural society. 
The problem is that even if you go back to the 14th century there was still some nonwhite influence in your culture. Gunpowder is nonwhite Numeral system is nonwhite Algebra is nonwhite A lot of modern geometry comes from nonwhite Trigonometry has some nonwhite influence A lot of general chemistry comes from nonwhites orginally The rebec (which was later made into violins) came from the arabic rebab The lute comes from arabs The spanish language is very influenced by arabic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_influence_on_the_Spanish_language The Italian renaissance was ver inlfuenced by arabs as well http://www.islamawareness.net/Europe/Italy/rennaissance.html Eruopean medicine was also influenced by arabs http://www.levity.com/alchemy/islam19.html
NO - I DON'T. 
Too bad. We do.
Nope. 
Too bad. We do.
By foreign I mean nonWhite. 
Native Americans are NOT foreign.
I'm not an optimistic retard like you
Not you are aloser retard who just wants to cry in his shit all day rather than do something with what he has. Pathetic.
Could you translate it into Spanish for me too? 
Sure. Be happy to.
I'd rather let them have their fun and not fuck with their lives
You won't. If you are wright you will improve their lies right?
live somewhere where this will NEVER happen. 
Where?
And not one instance of nonWhite culture or nonWhite anything? Not ONE? 
In that channel? Here is what the schedule is Rick Stevens Europe Poltics wih Carly Fiorina and John Henessy Parisian cooking Another cooking show Jacques Pepin Rosemary and Thyme (no clue what that is) Lawrence Welk (oldies from the 50s and 60s where everyone is white) Antiques Rodashow Lovejoy (British) Jonathan Creek (British) Austin City Limits (white concerts) One Step Beyond (sci -fi stuff) Sherlock Holmes
Don't remember the damn name - but I don't have Sherlock Holmes or Mrs Marple on my PBS... 
You said you have 7 channels. Look through them.
Well, lucky you - we don't have this. 
I bet its because the ppl who wanted it just dug their head in the sand repeating "woe is me" and bitching about hispanic shows everywhere....
Well, I'm not going to do anything about it - I wish that it was different though. 
Why? Why do you even care?
THAT AIN'T HAPPENING.
It will happen even LESS if you don't do anything about your own culture.
Well, if they choose be be considered 1/2 something and 1/2 the other, they can watch BOTH. Lucky them! 
People ae not exclusive like you. But maybe they just smarter.
Any positive change I want to make will result in being labeled racist.
KTEH is not labelled racis. As I said 90% is british shows and its not like we have 90% british population in san jose.
I WILL GET KILLED. 
Being paranoid and delusional will get you killed faster.
the ONLY way to do this
No it is not the only way. It is the ONLY WAY you WANT.
If you think I can somehow practice my culture without the influence of other cultures 
No one culture is totally 100% exclusive. All culture influencee each other really. Thats how they get richer and more exciting.
PBS to play ONLY White things, it WILL NOT HAPPEN. 
KTEH comes pretty close.
1 - Whites aren't protected here. 
You mean the police doesn't repsond to calls from whites, knowin they are whites?
we should have our own nation - no majority or minority problems, JUST Whites. 
Even in the 14th century Eruope was not exclusive white. If you think of jews as nonwhites they were there as a minority. If you think of arabs as nonwhites they were there as a minority.
when Whites mix out, leave, or get drowned in other culture. It WILL happen and HAS happened in other places before. 
Even the native american cukture did not totally die even though they were exterminated, their culture was ridiculed and their language almost disappear. If you did not want MC you should have stayed away from colonizing America and LEFT it as nonwhite territory. You should not have colonized India and left it as nonwhite country. You should not have colonized China and left Hong Kong free of white influence. Your ancestors did not do that. You are sowing what they reaped.
I have helped my community. I used to be a tutor for free and got a shit load of community service hours for college. 
Well I do too.
Now I just help out my friends, but they rarely need help in anything but programming class. 
Why dont you help spread european culture? Why don't you organize shakepeare plays in your schoo? Why don't you get ppl to play european music?
But, THAT is leechier than coming to a place NOT speaking the language
That is leechier than coming to a country working 12 hours per day for minimum wag, paying taxes and not takinf welfare.
getting pissy at the schools for not speaking MY language, ect. 
You said your school speaks Spanish anyway.
A tornado comes - your house and your neighbors house collapse. Whose house are you going to fix first? 
Mine and my neighbor's. Why? because if my neighbors house collapses mine might too. And even if my house is fine, if my neighbpr's house collapse then I will have to shelter them. So the more I help them the better for me too. BTW a lot of ppl do that.
Have we seen the same TV? I've seen nonWhite culture on it plenty of times. 
Thats because you don't KTEH. But you can ask one of the 7 PBS channels to have a similar program. Instead of saying its because you want 100% white say "I am a total British/Europe lover and I want a channel dedicated to that exclusively".
Britain isn't really to White anymore. 
Maybe but when you look at the shows its pretty white. There was just one black lady in Doctor Who but she's gone now. And that show is sci-fi so they tend to be into aliens anyway All other shows I dont see a single nonwhite.
For TRADE!
They colinized it. They settled there. Some british even mixed with inidans. The british even adopted the culture and the ideas. Ever read Kim by Kipling? Or the Just So stories?
They didn't really love them that much if you though they did.
Some did. But love is not the point They WENT there and lLIVED there. When they did that they FORCED indians to be in CONTACT with whites. By doing that they FORCED the white/nonwhite to be LIVING together.
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Sure. In your cse it still is. It is biased towards racialist thinking. 
Much of what you put is biased towards multicultural, "race is skin" thinking.
Biased doesn't mean false always. Go find out what biased means. 
THAT IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
Since they usually for majority of white vewers I'd say its still devoted to them. Its just NOT EXCLUSIVE. But NO channel really is. 
No channel is devoted to 2/3 of the population.
Example? 
I want only White culture and NOTHING BUT White culture - do you think that can happen?
Gunpowder is nonwhite Numeral system is nonwhite Algebra is nonwhite A lot of modern geometry comes from nonwhite Trigonometry has some nonwhite influence A lot of general chemistry comes from nonwhites orginally The rebec (which was later made into violins) came from the arabic rebab The lute comes from arabs The spanish language is very influenced by arabic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_influence_on_the_Spanish_language The Italian renaissance was ver inlfuenced by arabs as well http://www.islamawareness.net/Europe/Italy/rennaissance.html Eruopean medicine was also influenced by arabs http://www.levity.com/alchemy/islam19.html 
I think i already posted info on gunpowder Do you know where numbers came from? The first known system with place-value was the Mesopotamian base 60 system - in SUMER. The Babylonians are presumed to have invented Algebra. And, anyway, math isn't culture. What I meant by nonWhite influence was more towards a cultural, just because a nonWhite touched something doesn't mean a White nation would banish it.
Too bad. We do. 
Lucky.
Native Americans are NOT foreign. 
"Native American" doesn't really mean anything. And where did Amerinds (which I assume you're speaking of) come into this?
Not you are aloser retard who just wants to cry in his shit all day rather than do something with what he has. Pathetic. 
Far from the truth Jakelong, very far. You DO NOT KNOW what I'm doing. You just ASSUME I sit on my ass on a computer and type race-related posts on a forum. You JUST DON'T KNOW.
You won't. If you are wright you will improve their lies right? 
I don't want to interfere. It's not my business. If they want to live life how they want - I AM NOT GOING TO STOP THEM. I want to live my life without nonWhites - why should anyone oppose this?
Where? 
Somewhere with only Whites.
In that channel? Here is what the schedule is Rick Stevens Europe Poltics wih Carly Fiorina and John Henessy Parisian cooking Another cooking show Jacques Pepin Rosemary and Thyme (no clue what that is) Lawrence Welk (oldies from the 50s and 60s where everyone is white) Antiques Rodashow Lovejoy (British) Jonathan Creek (British) Austin City Limits (white concerts) One Step Beyond (sci -fi stuff) Sherlock Holmes 
And not one instance of nonWhite culture will ever touch those? If so, your argument fails.
You said you have 7 channels. Look through them. 
Can't go back in time.
I bet its because the ppl who wanted it just dug their head in the sand repeating "woe is me" and bitching about hispanic shows everywhere.... 
I didn't even think about PBS being a possibility for a WET station until you mentioned it - but my views haven't changed. It will NEVER be 100% White.
Why? Why do you even care? 
So there can be a channel devoted to Negro culture - maybe I want to refer to it every one in a while to see how their culture is.
It will happen even LESS if you don't do anything about your own culture. 
I have a life to lose - anything I do to keep my culture alive will push me further down. Look at the KKK groups, I know you think they're White Supremacists but that isn't true - many of them only want to promote White culture. If someone walks into PBS with a KKK uniform, what do YOU think would happen?
People ae not exclusive like you. But maybe they just smarter. 
Stupidity is not wanting to know about your own people. You wouldn't understand, you're a mongrel with no real race to relate to.
KTEH is not labelled racis. As I said 90% is british shows and its not like we have 90% british population in san jose. 
I want ONLY White culture and nothing but it. Do you think me saying that out loud will come with NO negative remarks?
Being paranoid and delusional will get you killed faster. 
Nope.
No it is not the only way. It is the ONLY WAY you WANT. 
Jakelong, PLEASE for the LOVE OF GOD - Explain how I can have absolutely NO nonWhite culture around me - no nonWhites, and no racial exploitation around me WITHOUT AN ALL WHITE NATION!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!
No one culture is totally 100% exclusive. All culture influencee each other really. Thats how they get richer and more exciting. 
FUCK! Soon we can't stop it and it will be too bad to fix!
KTEH comes pretty close. 
So, if I find ONE thing, for ONE second on it that is nonWhite culture, will you shut the fuck up about KTEH? Remember, British culture has a LOT of nonWhite influence due to their immigrant problem.
You mean the police doesn't repsond to calls from whites, knowin they are whites? 
There was a thing on the news about a neo-Nazi rally, a Negro almost killed a White, the cops didn't do anything, the fellow Whites had to stop the raging Negro.
Even in the 14th century Eruope was not exclusive white. If you think of jews as nonwhites they were there as a minority. If you think of arabs as nonwhites they were there as a minority. 
There's a first for everything.
Even the native american cukture did not totally die even though they were exterminated, their culture was ridiculed and their language almost disappear. If you did not want MC you should have stayed away from colonizing America and LEFT it as nonwhite territory. You should not have colonized India and left it as nonwhite country. You should not have colonized China and left Hong Kong free of white influence. Your ancestors did not do that. You are sowing what they reaped. 
I didn't do any of this. My ancestors wanted the resources and land - NOT the cultural influence of the nonWhites.
Why dont you help spread european culture? Why don't you organize shakepeare plays in your schoo? Why don't you get ppl to play european music? 
They won't do it - they have lack of interest.
That is leechier than coming to a country working 12 hours per day for minimum wag, paying taxes and not takinf welfare. 
But they are STILL leeching off of the protection of the government, of the army, the police, ect.
You said your school speaks Spanish anyway. 
My mom is a teacher and has gotten bad remarks because she can't help her Spanish speaking students with their English problems.
Mine and my neighbor's. Why? because if my neighbors house collapses mine might too. And even if my house is fine, if my neighbpr's house collapse then I will have to shelter them. So the more I help them the better for me too. BTW a lot of ppl do that. 
You'd go back and forth? Why not fix up yours first, then go help your neighbor AFTER yours?
Thats because you don't KTEH. But you can ask one of the 7 PBS channels to have a similar program. Instead of saying its because you want 100% white say "I am a total British/Europe lover and I want a channel dedicated to that exclusively". 
British and European are NOT EXCLUSIVELY WHITE.
Maybe but when you look at the shows its pretty white. There was just one black lady in Doctor Who but she's gone now. And that show is sci-fi so they tend to be into aliens anyway All other shows I dont see a single nonwhite. 
No nonWhites doesn't mean no nonWhite influence. Sadly, I can't do anything about this - I don't have the same channel as you and you have a different channel from me.
They colinized it. They settled there. Some british even mixed with inidans. The british even adopted the culture and the ideas. Ever read Kim by Kipling? Or the Just So stories? 
They fixed it up to make trade easier.
Some did. But love is not the point They WENT there and lLIVED there. When they did that they FORCED indians to be in CONTACT with whites. By doing that they FORCED the white/nonwhite to be LIVING together. 
They wanted land...
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Quote: from kidd rune at 3:41 pm on Nov. 1, 2008
Much of what you put is biased towards multicultural, "race is skin" thinking. 
Muh of what I put is from science and other places that are neutral to to the whole thing.
No channel is devoted to 2/3 of the population. 
Most channels devoted at least 2/3 of their program to that 2/3 of the population.
I want only White culture and NOTHING BUT White culture - do you think that can happen? 
Not anymore than you can have ONLY black culture and NOTHING BUT balck culture in a channel.
I think i already posted info on gunpowder Do you know where numbers came from? The first known system with place-value was the Mesopotamian base 60 system - in SUMER. 
Which was not 100% white.
anyway, math isn't culture. 
Excuse me? Math is sure PART of the culture. Same as technology.
What I meant by nonWhite influence was more towards a cultural, just because a nonWhite touched something doesn't mean a White nation would banish it. 
Not just "touch". Sometimes invent or influence.
Lucky. 
And smart.
"Native American" doesn't really mean anything. 
Amerindians are not "foreign" to America.
You JUST DON'T KNOW. 
What have you DONE for your culture? Physicaly and in the real world?
If they want to live life how they want - I AM NOT GOING TO STOP THEM.
Nor do they STOP you from PRACTING your culture. You just CHOOSE to pout in a corner instead of doing something positive about it.
I want to live my life without nonWhites - why should anyone oppose this? 
I am not opposed. I just say its stupid and only harms your people.
Somewhere with only Whites. 
Any place you know about that is like that?
And not one instance of nonWhite culture will ever touch those? 
Watch the shows and tell me. And as I said even in the 14th century european ulture was "touched" by nonwhite influence. So I can't rally think of time and plave ANYWHERE wehre that was really true.
If so, your argument fails. 
Your claim that white culture is NEVER touched by nonwhite fails from the start.
Can't go back in time
You can;t look at PAST schedules? You don't know how to search for that? Shows how backwards you are.
I didn't even think about PBS being a possibility for a WET station until you mentioned it 
Because you an idiot.
It will NEVER be 100% White. 
No channel is 100% anythin these days (race, ethnicity, language) even the catergories are blurred. Like some sport channels have comedy. Some News channels have non-news things. Some Educational channels have cartoons. Some cartoon channels had live action. We live in a world where things move around and move fast. Keep up or die out.
maybe I want to refer to it every one in a while to see how their culture is. 
You know if you think BET represents EVERYTHING thats black you mistaken. All it has is black ENTERTAIMENT. If you want to have info on Black history you can watch some programs on black history during black history month. If thiss society is so multicutural as you say you can find that out EASILY right?
I have a life to lose - anything I do to keep my culture alive will push me further down.
A paranoid idiot is already practically dead anyway.
many of them only want to promote White culture.
Burning cvrosses PROMOTES white culture? Okkkk....
If someone walks into PBS with a KKK uniform, what do YOU think would happen? 
Theres a LOT of DIFFERENT PBS stations. It would bet whoever is there will wonder WTF and maybe if you talk to Jim Lehrer he might interview you to figure out what you want exactly. Anyway here is a program on KKK by PBS http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_org_kkk.html http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reconstruction/ I bet you don't like them though...
Stupidity is not wanting to know about your own people. 
Stupidity is thiking that people do not influence each other.
You wouldn't understand, you're a mongrel with no real race to relate to. 
I just have MORE races to relate to than you do. That makes my life RICHER. You wouldn't understand. You are an inbred who thinks in asboulte race separation.
I want ONLY White culture and nothing but it. 
And thats stupid.
Do you think me saying that out loud will come with NO negative remarks? 
saying anything like that will bing negatve remarks becuase its stupid.
Nope. 
Yep.
Explain how I can have absolutely NO nonWhite culture around me 
You can't becasue this world is not about seperation but COMMUNICATION. You can't live in the world of the 21 century without COMMUNICATING and being in CONTACT with everyon else. Even Africans can't. Even Chinsese can't. Isolating yourself may make you feel good for a little while but you can do that even in the US in the states I mentioned. But BECEUASE everyone NEEDS in the 21 century to be EDUCATED about the WORLD they won't let you hve NOO influence from the rest of the world. Fuck right now even you are in CONTACT with ME. To do that you HAVE to know about cultues of the world. Same with me. The difference is that I DONT mind learning about white culture.
FUCK! Soon we can't stop it and it will be too bad to fix! 
Even in the Roman empire cultures were even MORE mixed around.
So, if I find ONE thing, for ONE second on it that is nonWhite culture, will you shut the fuck up about KTEH? 
Nope because all you show is that you re being stupid and retarded about wanting only 100% white culture. THe FACT you want that shows you are idiotic beyond limit.
the fellow Whites had to stop the raging Negro. 
And the police didn't do anything there either? How do you know it was "almost kill"? Was it attempted murder? was it assault?
There's a first for everything. 
Well minorites have been around Eruope for a while. Of course Spain was arabic BEFORE whites took over.
My ancestors wanted the resources and land - NOT the cultural influence of the nonWhites. 
Can't get one WITOUT the other. They were idiots. If you go to Alpha centauri to exploit their resources and there's even a FEW alpha centaurians living there, they will influence our earth culture faster than you can say "Aliens!".
They won't do it - they have lack of interest. 
Who is "they"? Do you have to ask permission to practice your culture? All you need is some of your friends and a stage. Are you saying your English teachers HATE shakespeare?
But they are STILL leeching off of the protection of the government, of the army, the police, ect. 
They are citizens. They pay their taxes. They have a RIGHT to the assiantece of the government and the police. This is not leeching =. This is a RIGHT for every citizen or legal immigrant.
My mom is a teacher and has gotten bad remarks because she can't help her Spanish speaking students with their English problems. 
Thats too bad. I don't think its right she should get bd remarks.
You'd go back and forth? Why not fix up yours first, then go help your neighbor AFTER yours?
I'd do that but I wouldn't ABANDON the neighbor's house.
British and European are NOT EXCLUSIVELY WHITE. 
Africa is not EXCLUSIVELY black. Asia is not EXLCUSIVELY asian. So your point?
No nonWhites doesn't mean no nonWhite influence. 
Sorry. Even eruopean culture nonwhite influence. I have to ask why do you want TOTAL exclusivity anyway?
Sadly, I can't do anything about this - I don't have the same channel as you and you have a different channel from me. 
I looked at the channel history and it changed. It used to be more like the other PBS channels before. the something ahappened and now its British European and VERY VERY white. Nobody has complained even though this is the local PBS channel for a city where whites are only 1/3 of the population. And I am not gonna complain either. Obviously some ppl ASKED for it and the leaders of the channel AGREED. One of your 7 PBS channels is bound to have somene willing to listen,
They fixed it up to make trade easier. 
Not the point. The LIVED theree. if they didn't WANT to be anywhere NEAR nonwhites its stupid to go live there.
They wanted land...
Their greed was their fall.
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...Most of the people on Telemundo are white... 
Keyword: MOST.
Muh of what I put is from science and other places that are neutral to to the whole thing. 
YOU think they're neutral.
Most channels devoted at least 2/3 of their program to that 2/3 of the population. 
2/3 is 1/3 away from 100%
Not anymore than you can have ONLY black culture and NOTHING BUT balck culture in a channel. 
Which is stupidity. WHY can't they have that?
Which was not 100% white. 
The date accounts for that, as does the specific person (or group of people) that discovered it.
Excuse me? Math is sure PART of the culture. Same as technology. 
Well it's shared culture as math has input from all races and people. Some things, such as sports, are created right on the spot from one person.
Not just "touch". Sometimes invent or influence. 
That's what I meant.
And smart. 
No need to be arrogant.
Amerindians are not "foreign" to America. 
Well, everyone came from Africa, and what about the Clovis people? They weren't Amerind in stock, but came at about the same time, if not before, the Amerinds.
What have you DONE for your culture? Physicaly and in the real world? 
I've promoted it, actually.
Nor do they STOP you from PRACTING your culture. You just CHOOSE to pout in a corner instead of doing something positive about it. 
WRONGO! I asked my school, with 5 fellow White students, to have a week devoted to White culture/history, as Hispanics and blacks had their own MONTHS. We got NOTHING.
I am not opposed. I just say its stupid and only harms your people. 
What harms our people are the declining numbers.
Any place you know about that is like that? 
Well, if one did White Nationalists wouldn't exist.
Watch the shows and tell me. And as I said even in the 14th century european ulture was "touched" by nonwhite influence. So I can't rally think of time and plave ANYWHERE wehre that was really true. 
If ONE piece of nonWhite culture touches them, it's not White.
Your claim that white culture is NEVER touched by nonwhite fails from the start. 
Didn't say this. But, one day all of the people of the world will dab here and there on all of the cultures - and there will be ONE CULTURE. This horrid idea is what I want to stop - I want individuality, not sameness.
You can;t look at PAST schedules? You don't know how to search for that? Shows how backwards you are. 
Great reasoning there.
Because you an idiot. 
BEECUZ YO IN IDEEYUTT, DURR!
No channel is 100% anythin these days (race, ethnicity, language) even the catergories are blurred. Like some sport channels have comedy. Some News channels have non-news things. Some Educational channels have cartoons. Some cartoon channels had live action. We live in a world where things move around and move fast. 
Pointless, isn't it? Why have a particular subject if you let other stuff wander around inside of it.
Keep up or die out. 
How pleasant!
You know if you think BET represents EVERYTHING thats black you mistaken. All it has is black ENTERTAIMENT. 
What a failure - they should really fix that.
If you want to have info on Black history you can watch some programs on black history during black history month. If thiss society is so multicutural as you say you can find that out EASILY right? 
I don't want info on Black history - I've had enough of their 'inventions' for a good amount of time.
A paranoid idiot is already practically dead anyway. 
Mhmm...
Burning cvrosses PROMOTES white culture? Okkkk.... 
The KKK, nor any fake KKK's have EVER "Burned" a cross, EVER! They LIGHT crosses, which can trace back to Scotland.
Theres a LOT of DIFFERENT PBS stations. It would bet whoever is there will wonder WTF and maybe if you talk to Jim Lehrer he might interview you to figure out what you want exactly. Anyway here is a program on KKK by PBS http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_org_kkk.html http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reconstruction/ I bet you don't like them though... 
The fact that they use "Burning crosses," a term any KKK member will deny shows how incorrect it is.
Stupidity is thiking that people do not influence each other. 
Cool.
I just have MORE races to relate to than you do. That makes my life RICHER. 
You have NO race to relate to - once you've mixed, once you label yourself multiracial, you have NO RACE. A mule is not a donkey, nor is it a horse - you are MIXED, don't deny it.
You wouldn't understand. You are an inbred who thinks in asboulte race separation. 
Do you know what "inbred" means? If one race is closely related, doesn't that contradict what you've been saying all along?
And thats stupid. 
OPINION! It's not that I never want to see nonWhite culture, I would just rather have a place that I can go to to ONLY EXPERIENCE White culture. If I want African, Hispanic, or Asian culture - I'll go to Africa, Latin America, or Asia. It's simple, separatism doesn't destroy multiculturalism like multiculturalism itself does.
saying anything like that will bing negatve remarks becuase its stupid. 
OPINION - can't accept that people are different and have different beliefs? Good job multiculturalism!
Yep. 
Well, good think I'm not paranoid OR delusional.
You can't becasue this world is not about seperation but COMMUNICATION. You can't live in the world of the 21 century without COMMUNICATING and being in CONTACT with everyon else. 
Does NOT mean you have to push that foreign culture INTO OTHER LAND.
Even Africans can't. Even Chinsese can't. Isolating yourself may make you feel good for a little while but you can do that even in the US in the states I mentioned. But BECEUASE everyone NEEDS in the 21 century to be EDUCATED about the WORLD they won't let you hve NOO influence from the rest of the world. 
You are overreacting? Do you believe an all-White nation would isolate itself from the rest of the world and NEVER interact with anyone else?
Fuck right now even you are in CONTACT with ME. To do that you HAVE to know about cultues of the world. Same with me.
It's different - you're not pushing culture onto me.
The difference is that I DONT mind learning about white culture. 
I LOVE learning about other cultures. I like to see them being practiced, loved, and adored. The thing is, after all that, I want to be able to come home to a nice, White place. I want to be able to walk outside and say "Hi" and not expect a "Hola" back. I want to be able to practice other cultures - when I want to. If I want Mexican culture, I would go to Mexico. If I want Chinese culture, I will go to China. If I want African culture, I will go to, you guessed it, AFRICA. But, if I want the culture of my people, I don't want to go home and sift through to get it.
Even in the Roman empire cultures were even MORE mixed around. 
And Rome fell - I believe that it was partly because such a small amount of the population was, indeed, Roman - racially and culturally.
Nope because all you show is that you re being stupid and retarded about wanting only 100% white culture. THe FACT you want that shows you are idiotic beyond limit. 
No Jakelong, it isn't. I want the ability to flip to a channel and KNOW what's going to be on without checking the guide. I want to be able to KNOW if I will see White, Black, Yellow, Red, Blue, or Green. Did I EVER say I don't want to look at, see, or even hear of nonWhite culture? No - I just want to be able to choose how MUCH I see.
And the police didn't do anything there either? How do you know it was "almost kill"? Was it attempted murder? was it assault? 
Attempted murder and two people, in different cars watching them pass through the street SAW him attempt it while the police officer STOOD AND WATCHED.
Well minorites have been around Eruope for a while. Of course Spain was arabic BEFORE whites took over. 
Wait, WHAT? Spain was Arabic BEFORE Whites came? What about the Basques - they were Arabic?
Can't get one WITOUT the other. They were idiots. 
Well, we're smarter now, aren't we - we can learn from their mistakes.
If you go to Alpha centauri to exploit their resources and there's even a FEW alpha centaurians living there, they will influence our earth culture faster than you can say "Aliens!".
Well, let's not go to Alpha Centauri and leave it for the Alpha Centaurians.
Who is "they"? Do you have to ask permission to practice your culture? All you need is some of your friends and a stage. Are you saying your English teachers HATE shakespeare? 
We haven't done any Shakespear, but my English teacher (Puerto Rican) hates Beowulf.
They are citizens. They pay their taxes. They have a RIGHT to the assiantece of the government and the police. This is not leeching =. This is a RIGHT for every citizen or legal immigrant. 
I thought you were referring to ILLEGAL immigrants. I thought you could only work for like 10 hours at the most, in many places 8.
Thats too bad. I don't think its right she should get bd remarks. 
Well, if the whole population spoke one language...
I'd do that but I wouldn't ABANDON the neighbor's house. 
It's different. If you go back and forth you may end up with two 1/2 finished houses instead of one finished. Usually people look after their family before others.
Africa is not EXCLUSIVELY black. Asia is not EXLCUSIVELY asian. So your point? 
You can't call a British show White.
Sorry. Even eruopean culture nonwhite influence. 
I don't speak of Europe as being 100% White.
I have to ask why do you want TOTAL exclusivity anyway? 
So I can experience culture at my own levels. If I want to experience 2 hours of Mexican and 6 hours of White one day - I can do that without having trouble, RIGHT on my couch.
I looked at the channel history and it changed. It used to be more like the other PBS channels before. the something ahappened and now its British European and VERY VERY white. Nobody has complained even though this is the local PBS channel for a city where whites are only 1/3 of the population. And I am not gonna complain either. Obviously some ppl ASKED for it and the leaders of the channel AGREED. One of your 7 PBS channels is bound to have somene willing to listen, 
I want to have an all-White channel - do you think they'd do it? Remember, British ≠ White.
Not the point. The LIVED theree. if they didn't WANT to be anywhere NEAR nonwhites its stupid to go live there. 
They lived there to make it easier for trade - they established cities FOR trade. It wasn't that they wanted other cultural influence, it's just that that was where the stuff they wanted was.
Their greed was their fall. 
They fell?
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Quote: from kidd rune at 8:17 pm on Nov. 1, 2008
2/3 is 1/3 away from 100% 
Since the US is not 100% white it don't matter.
Which is stupidity. WHY can't they have that? 
Because they prolly figure they don't live in a 100% black world.
Well it's shared culture as math has input from all races and people. 
Most of the culture you are talking about is shared up to a point. How much its shared depends on what we talking about really.
Some things, such as sports, are created right on the spot from one person. 
Some yeah.
No need to be arrogant. 
Not arrogant, Truthful.
Well, everyone came from Africa, and what about the Clovis people? They weren't Amerind in stock, but came at about the same time, if not before, the Amerinds. 
Which still does not make amerinds "foreign". The amerinds might come from the clovis ppl too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo-Indians
Paleo-Indians or Paleo-Americans were the ancient peoples of the Americas who were present at the end of the last Ice Age. The prefix "paleo" comes from the Greek adjective palaios (παλαιός) "old", and refers to the Upper Paleolithic time period. The best known of these peoples were part of the Clovis culture. However, credible evidence of pre-Clovis Paleo-Indian cultures does not yet exist. Although many claims have been made of the existence of Pre-Clovis Paleo Indians in the Americas, none have as of yet been verified. Paleo-Americans are believed to be the first people to have inhabited a large number of areas in the Americas, though they didn't inhabit the continent as a whole. The current prevailing theory postulates that Paleo-Indians entered the Americas from Asia via a land bridge (Beringia) connecting eastern Siberia with present-day Alaska when sea levels were significantly lower because of a widespread glaciation period ending about 10,000 years ago. However, evidence suggestive of even earlier human occupation in South America at sites like Monte Verde in Chile (35,000 years), or in North America at Topper (50,000 years ago), has generated an alternative theory that Paleo-Indians, or at least some groups of them, may have come from the Pacific Islands or mainland Asia by watercraft. 
I've promoted it, actually. 
Allright. How?
I asked my school, with 5 fellow White students, to have a week devoted to White culture/history, as Hispanics and blacks had their own MONTHS. 
1. Just PRACTICE it . Just have a vlub that promotes European music and plays. 2. Asking for "white culture" is stupid. Asking for European culture should give something. If you don't get answers. then write an aricle in the school newpaper about it.
What harms our people are the declining numbers. 
But since you don't think abortion harms your ppl and you don't think making babies work then you fucked anyway.
Well, if one did White Nationalists wouldn't exist. 
I don't even know too many black countries that have NOT been touched by whites.
If ONE piece of nonWhite culture touches them, it's not White. 
One drop rule for culture?
Didn't say this. But, one day all of the people of the world will dab here and there on all of the cultures - and there will be ONE CULTURE. 
Maybe maybe not. They wanted the melting pot system in the US. Did that create one SINGLE culture? If yes was that SIBGLE culture that horrible?
I want individuality, not sameness. 
Nope. You want ALL whites to ACT white and Think WHITE instead of letting them choose what they want for themselves.
Great reasoning there. 
Can you google for past schedules?
BEECUZ YO IN IDEEYUTT, DURR! 
Made my point.
]Pointless, isn't it? Why have a particular subject if you let other stuff wander around inside of it. 
Because things are not exclusive in the world. Specialized =/= Exclusive
How pleasant! 
Aren't you for evolution and survival of the fittest?
What a failure - they should really fix that. 
Nope. They got the thing right.
I don't want info on Black history - I've had enough of their 'inventions' for a good amount of time. 
You said you wanted to refer to it once in a while. As I said BET does not represent ALL black culture. Just the one of 2008 really.
The KKK, nor any fake KKK's have EVER "Burned" a cross, EVER! 
Really?
They LIGHT crosses, which can trace back to Scotland. 
Lighting with fire. Mmmhh yeah sure that is SO different... Let me ask you: how long do they "light" the cross with fire? How much is left of it after they done? Do they even try to keep it intact?
The fact that they use "Burning crosses," a term any KKK member will deny shows how incorrect it is. 
Sure because the 2 terms are so different?
You have NO race to relate to
I have at least 3 to relate to.
once you label yourself multiracial, you have NO RACE. 
Multiracial =/= NO race Multiligual =/= NO language Multiface =/= NO face Multi color =/= NO color Multi = Many Learn english
A mule is not a donkey, nor is it a horse
I am neither a mule a donkey or a horse. I am a human being. Don't deny it,
It's not that I never want to see nonWhite culture, I would just rather have a place that I can go to to ONLY EXPERIENCE White culture.
Which is impossible from day one.
If I want African, Hispanic, or Asian culture - I'll go to Africa, Latin America, or Asia. 
As you said yourself most cultures have communicated long before. what you call "white" culture has been influenced by Middle eastern, Asian and arabic cultures at least.
It's simple, separatism doesn't destroy 
Isolation leads to death. It is true in genetics and culture. Latin language died out the minute it was isolated and used only by monks.
can't accept that people are different and have different beliefs?
Sure they can Some are more stupi than others.
Well, good think I'm not paranoid OR delusional. 
Is that why you think you WILL DSURELY die for promoting white culture? Pretty paranoid and delusional.
Does NOT mean you have to push that foreign culture INTO OTHER LAND. 
All lands are influenced by each other today. They tried doing that for native cultures actually. It doesn't work that much. Isolatin and separation doesn't work. Otherwise the indian cultures would have done GREAT with reservations and isolation. Instead most of those that had the culture died out while the younger indians left the reservation and lost the culture.
You are overreacting? Do you believe an all-White nation would isolate itself from the rest of the world and NEVER interact with anyone else? 
You said yourself that is what you want. No influence from nonwhite culture. How do you plan on doin that if there is interaction? How do you plan to keep it up without isolation. Ppl are naturally curious about the outside world. That is why even in the USSR in totalitarian regime they couldn't even prevent kids from brining in music and culture from the US and the capitalist west.
It's different - you're not pushing culture onto me. 
Well even if culture isn't pushed it can still be in contact.
The thing is, after all that, I want to be able to come home to a nice, White place.
Your own home can be a "nice white place"
I want to be able to walk outside and say "Hi" and not expect a "Hola" back. I want to be able to practice other cultures - when I want to. 
Thats a langauge thing though not a race thing. But sure if thats what you want then the only way right now is move.
If I want Mexican culture, I would go to Mexico. If I want Chinese culture, I will go to China. If I want African culture, I will go to, you guessed it, AFRICA. 
Again its not RACE but ethncity.
I want the culture of my people, I don't want to go home and sift through to get it. 
If you have DVR you can do this: set your DVR to record all the shows that you think are white enough. Some movies are 100% white, Some shows (like Lawrence Welk) are 100% white. Plenty of music concerts are 100% white. Theres plenty of stuff thats still 100% white. Then when you get home go through all your recorded shows and play only that.
And Rome fell 
correlation =/= causation. Rome feel because all empires eventually fall.
Roman - racially and culturally. 
The Whole known word was Roman culturally. And Roman was a nationality not a race.
I want the ability to flip to a channel and KNOW what's going to be on without checking the guide.
If you go on PBS you can but are WAY TOO exclusive for ANY channel to handle.
I want to be able to KNOW if I will see White, Black, Yellow, Red, Blue, or Green. 
And that is stupid. There are ratings for Y-14, Adult, R-rated. There is not race rating. There is not reason for that if someone is not incredibly racist.
I just want to be able to choose how MUCH I see. 
Because if you accidentally see a black person in a show your eyes will burn?
Attempted murder and two people, in different cars watching them pass through the street SAW him attempt it while the police officer STOOD AND WATCHED. 
The police in your hood are prolly corrupt fucks.
Spain was Arabic BEFORE Whites came?
Yep
What about the Basques - they were Arabic? 
bsques are a totally differnt ppl really.
Well, we're smarter now, aren't we - we can learn from their mistakes. 
I don't know. In a way that made British ppl learn something and India and vice -versa. Some of it was bad. Some of it was good. Today none of it matters.
Well, let's not go to Alpha Centauri and leave it for the Alpha Centaurians.
So not extra-terrestrial exploration? No going to mrs to find out if there is life there?
We haven't done any Shakespear, but my English teacher (Puerto Rican) hates Beowulf. 
Does she also hate English poetry and american lit?
I thought you were referring to ILLEGAL immigrants. I thought you could only work for like 10 hours at the most, in many places 8. 
Legal immigrants work their ass off too you know. Many work MORE than 8 hours per day.
Well, if the whole population spoke one language... 
Irrelevant. Ppl in Canda sopeak 2 languages. Many ppl at the border of 2 countries speak 2 languages. But ppl who only speak one should get bad remarks eithe.
Usually people look after their family before others. 
Sure but if they have any sense they ALSO look after the neighobr's family.
You can't call a British show White. 
Some are yeah.
I don't speak of Europe as being 100% White. 
So where is your so-called white country then?
So I can experience culture at my own levels. If I want to experience 2 hours of Mexican and 6 hours of White one day - I can do that without having trouble, RIGHT on my couch. 
Again you confuse NATIONALITY/Ethnicity with race. Not the same. If you are saying AMERICAN vs Mexican then you have a point. I can experience American shows with 100% white ppl (in term of color becuase I don't really know their real genetics) if I watch things like Leave it to beaver or Bonanza on TV Land http://www.tvland.com/ But even if you watch Casablance you WILL see 1 black actor there. Is that gonna spoil your fun? That would be too bad because its a good movie. (But you prolly would hate it since its anti-nazi )
I want to have an all-White channel - do you think they'd do it? Remember, British ≠ White. 
You could ask for a ERuopean channel and yeah they would do that. No one would do a 100% white channel because that ould make no sense.
They lived there to make it easier for trade - they established cities FOR trade. 
Living there open s them up to the culture of India.
It wasn't that they wanted other cultural influence, it's just that that was where the stuff they wanted was. 
Whether they wanted or not it HAPPENED.
They fell?
They opened themselves up for immigration from Indians in Britain. Which to you is a tragedy...
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Since the US is not 100% white it don't matter. 
Yes, but ONE CHANNEL, out of the hundreds we have, can't be devoted solely to 66% of the population?
Because they prolly figure they don't live in a 100% black world. 
And not all of the channels are 100% Black. Why not have one channel, less than 1% of TV, pushed towards ONE people only?
Most of the culture you are talking about is shared up to a point. How much its shared depends on what we talking about really. 
Most WN's that thought about the WN country say that they would share technology, science, math, etc with other countries - but they would keep their culture, arts, music, and whatnot inside of it (but still let people of all races visit).
Not arrogant, Truthful. 
Jakelong, maybe it is true, but you don't call yourself smart - ever. People will first get the idea that you're arrogant.
Which still does not make amerinds "foreign". The amerinds might come from the clovis ppl too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo-Indians
Well, you can't say the Whites were foreign to America - you don't know the history of America. Maybe the Amerinds we think are native slaughtered a race before them and took over the land.
Allright. How? 
I've showed it to fellow Whites. Recommended books to my English teacher (she never read them though :D)
1. Just PRACTICE it . Just have a vlub that promotes European music and plays. 2. Asking for "white culture" is stupid. Asking for European culture should give something. If you don't get answers. then write an aricle in the school newpaper about it. 
1. We don't have a stage and all that stuff you're speaking of - I don't know how you do it in your school to have a lot of extra time, but we don't have that. 2. European culture can mean too much, and we gave specific examples. Maybe to them "Spanish culture" means Latin American and they would just have more of that. And we have no newspaper... that I know of...
But since you don't think abortion harms your ppl and you don't think making babies work then you fucked anyway. 
Mixing is 10x worse. Once a White marries a nonWhite, no matter how many babies they have, not one will be White.
I don't even know too many black countries that have NOT been touched by whites. 
Well, Haiti is a good-ish example. For a long time Whites were banish from going there, as if any of them would go there after what happened to the French anyway. Regardless, Negroes can go make their own country if they want, I am NOT stopping them - I'd fully support it.
One drop rule for culture? 
One drop of battery acid in a glass of water - are you going to drink it?
Maybe maybe not. They wanted the melting pot system in the US. Did that create one SINGLE culture? If yes was that SIBGLE culture that horrible? 
In some places, yes - there is ONE dominant culture. Is it horrible? Well, that's all an opinion, isn't it? I assume that most people prefer to practice THEIR culture though.
Nope. You want ALL whites to ACT white and Think WHITE instead of letting them choose what they want for themselves. 
No, I don't. I don't want to force Whites to do anything - I just want them to be able to see a country that exists for them - they can CHOOSE if they want to live there or not.
Can you google for past schedules? 
They have a button where you can click back and it goes back like 2 hours at a time, but I still don't remember the exact day and hour when this happened.
Made my point. 
I don't think you caught your mistake.
Because things are not exclusive in the world. Specialized =/= Exclusive 
It's pointless. Why can't ONE CHANNEL, out of HUNDREDS, be primarily devoted to ONE thing? You can have all of the multicultural channels you want - I could give less of a shit - but why can't ONE channel be devoted to only White culture, history, and lifestyle?
Aren't you for evolution and survival of the fittest? 
It would be different if everyone had the same circumstances. I DO what survival of the fittest to happen - inside of my Folk(race).
Nope. They got the thing right. 
Why can't Negroes be entertained with their own culture? If they want other cultures, why can't they flip the channel?
You said you wanted to refer to it once in a while. As I said BET does not represent ALL black culture. Just the one of 2008 really. 
Well, fuck multiculturalism then - Not even going to attempt it as I won't know what's what.
Really? Lighting with fire. Mmmhh yeah sure that is SO different... Let me ask you: how long do they "light" the cross with fire? How much is left of it after they done? Do they even try to keep it intact? 
For their whole ritual or whatever you wish to call it. It's all intact after they're done - they don't destroy the cross at all. They don't set the wood on fire...
Sure because the 2 terms are so different? 
To them it is - or are you "dissin'" their culture?
I have at least 3 to relate to. 
You have three thirds.
Multiracial =/= NO race Multiligual =/= NO language Multiface =/= NO face Multi color =/= NO color Multi = Many Learn english 
Lisa is red. Jamaal is blue. All of Lisa's ancestors are red - all of Jamaal's ancestors are blue. When Lisa marry's Jamaal, their kids are PURPLE. Their kids aren't red OR blue - but a MIX - PURPLE. Purple is not red and will never be red, nor is it blue. Jamaal and Lisa's kid (we'll call him bob) can't truthfully say he is any color but purple. Sure, he is PART red and PART blue, but he, nor any of his ancestors, will be blue or red for a long, long time (that's if the colors don't all fuse together into brown by then).
I am neither a mule a donkey or a horse. I am a human being. Don't deny it, 
A mule is a donkey/horse mix. You are a mix of different races - therefore not either of the original races you are composed of.
Which is impossible from day one. 
Due to the wonders of multiculturalism!
As you said yourself most cultures have communicated long before. what you call "white" culture has been influenced by Middle eastern, Asian and arabic cultures at least. 
Maybe so, but that doesn't mean we need any more influence and we should try to keep it individual.
Isolation leads to death. It is true in genetics and culture. Latin language died out the minute it was isolated and used only by monks. 
That's only if the people that isolate themselves die out. Religion itself became less important due to the Age of Reason.
Sure they can Some are more stupi than others. 
Let's look at it this way: There are many different religions in the world, but only one can actually be correct (if one IS). Since the others are factually incorrect, wouldn't they be stupid or just different? Should we force everyone to have the same religion?
Is that why you think you WILL DSURELY die for promoting white culture? Pretty paranoid and delusional. 
I think a lot of people will hate me because of it (Babygurl is a good example - she lives probably just 10-20 minutes from me) and you know there are some crazy people (like that one who felt it was necessary to kill a neo-Nazi) that would want me dead. I'd rather not be killed because I'm surrounded by people that hate my culture, beliefs, and love for my own people.
All lands are influenced by each other today. They tried doing that for native cultures actually. It doesn't work that much. Isolatin and separation doesn't work. Otherwise the indian cultures would have done GREAT with reservations and isolation. Instead most of those that had the culture died out while the younger indians left the reservation and lost the culture. 
They left and lost it - their fault. If a country can be created, unified by people and culture, do you think it could last? China has a pretty uniform culture in some areas - my Grandpa visited. http://preview.tinyurl.com/5aogko Look at that.
You said yourself that is what you want. No influence from nonwhite culture. How do you plan on doin that if there is interaction? How do you plan to keep it up without isolation. Ppl are naturally curious about the outside world. 
The country itself would be filled with White culture - but people would be encouraged to visit other places (and other people visit the White country). Multiculturalism isn't a really bad idea - just when you live right with another culture it's bad. I like to see other cultures, which is why I'd visit OTHER COUNTRIES to see it.
That is why even in the USSR in totalitarian regime they couldn't even prevent kids from brining in music and culture from the US and the capitalist west. 
Well, I'm 100% sure a White country would NOT be communist.
Well even if culture isn't pushed it can still be in contact. 
Yes, of course - but it's not everywhere and is only in portions that you want it at.
Your own home can be a "nice white place" 
I'm no hermit, nor can one house compress that much culture.
Thats a langauge thing though not a race thing. But sure if thats what you want then the only way right now is move. 
But how do you know that Hispanics won't eventually move there? My parents moved to Osceola county when there were virtually only Whites with a few Black families, but look at it now!
Again its not RACE but ethncity. 
Okay - but a lot of time they are together.
If you have DVR you can do this: set your DVR to record all the shows that you think are white enough. Some movies are 100% white, Some shows (like Lawrence Welk) are 100% white. Plenty of music concerts are 100% white. Theres plenty of stuff thats still 100% white. Then when you get home go through all your recorded shows and play only that. 
I don't know what's 100% White. I REALLY don't - do you know why? Because so much of it ISN'T and I can't weed through it successfully. And what if I'm somewhere without my wonderful DVR?
correlation =/= causation. Rome feel because all empires eventually fall. 
Is that the reason? Was there some timer sitting there with a specific time and when it went off, no matter how strong Rome was, it just fell?
The Whole known word was Roman culturally. And Roman was a nationality not a race. 
The original Romans were racially linked - then immigrants poured in and conquered lands. The Race of Rome changed, and it FELL.
If you go on PBS you can but are WAY TOO exclusive for ANY channel to handle. 
I thought we settled that PBS wasn't White where I live? And it's not "Too exclusive for ANY channel to handle."
And that is stupid. There are ratings for Y-14, Adult, R-rated. There is not race rating. There is not reason for that if someone is not incredibly racist. 
Umm, no it isn't stupid. If someone went to visit Japan for the culture and got Burritos, Tacos, and ONLY Mexican things - would they be satisfied?
Because if you accidentally see a black person in a show your eyes will burn? 
There can be Negroes in a show and it still be White - it's just the culture and everything of the show - you obviously don't understand.
The police in your hood are prolly corrupt fucks. 
I don't have a "hood" and I don't care - the person shouldn't have wanted to kill the man for his beliefs.
Yep 
This is what I thought:
The first inhabitants of the Iberian peninsula were the Old European peoples, who established a Neolithic, or farming culture in the region. The next people to enter the Iberian peninsula after it had been settled by the Neolithic Old Europeans were the Semitic/Indo-European /Old European mix known as the Phoenicians, who had established trading posts on the southern coast of Spain prior to 1000 BC, working from their base in the city they founded in North Africa, Carthage. The Spanish towns of Cadiz, Malaga and Cordoba all date from this time. Then the first pure Indo-Europeans arrived around 600 BC, when the Classical Greeks established colonies in the north eastern part of Spain. They later expanded southwards down into the modern day town of Valencia. 
But if you have some information, please share.
bsques are a totally differnt ppl really. 
Basques are "are little more of a Mesolithic relict than any other European population" Basques also seem to be more genetically related to the French than any other living people.
I don't know. In a way that made British ppl learn something and India and vice -versa. Some of it was bad. Some of it was good. Today none of it matters. 
I still think we should preserve ourselves instead of becoming one big blob of sameness.
So not extra-terrestrial exploration? No going to mrs to find out if there is life there? 
We can, but we don't need to mass immigrate and get a bunch of immigrants here. No need to take over them and change their ways.
Does she also hate English poetry and american lit? 
I'm sure not all of it, but Beowulf is an Anglo-Saxon epic. She was kind of neutral with the Odyssey.
Legal immigrants work their ass off too you know. Many work MORE than 8 hours per day. 
You forgot to put "Some" in front of your sentence.
Irrelevant. Ppl in Canda sopeak 2 languages. Many ppl at the border of 2 countries speak 2 languages. But ppl who only speak one should get bad remarks eithe. 
If they spoke one language then EVERYONE COULD COMMUNICATE.
Sure but if they have any sense they ALSO look after the neighobr's family. 
Of course they do - they don't ignore them, but still - your family comes first.
Some are yeah. 
Of course some are.
So where is your so-called white country then? 
Well, if one existed do you think White Nationalists would be around much?
Again you confuse NATIONALITY/Ethnicity with race. Not the same. 
No, I didn't. I didn't input race into this at all.
If you are saying AMERICAN vs Mexican then you have a point. I can experience American shows with 100% white ppl (in term of color becuase I don't really know their real genetics) if I watch things like Leave it to beaver or Bonanza on TV Land http://www.tvland.com/ But even if you watch Casablance you WILL see 1 black actor there. Is that gonna spoil your fun? That would be too bad because its a good movie. (But you prolly would hate it since its anti-nazi ) 
1. If the Negro is part of Mexican culture I don't care. 2. Black culture is usually with Blacks - surprised? 3. White culture is usually with Whites - surprised?
You could ask for a ERuopean channel and yeah they would do that. No one would do a 100% white channel because that ould make no sense. 
But I don't want a European channel - I want a White channel.
Living there open s them up to the culture of India. 
They didn't have to take it in. They could ignore it and just trade. They weren't too culturally tolerant either - they tried to make some of them eat beef, which is against their beliefs.
Whether they wanted or not it HAPPENED. 
How much Indian influence is on British culture do you think? Provide examples and proof.
They opened themselves up for immigration from Indians in Britain. Which to you is a tragedy... 
Everyone makes mistakes.
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