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U.S. pilot was ordered to shoot down UFO
He was told to never talk about Cold War incident; files now are publi
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LONDON - An American fighter pilot flying from an English air base at the height of the Cold War was ordered to open fire on a massive UFO that lit up his radar, according to an account published by Britain's National Archives on Monday.

The fighter pilot said he was ordered to fire a full salvo of rockets at the UFO moving erratically over the North Sea — but that at the last minute the object picked up enormous speed and disappeared. The account, first published in Britain's Daily Star newspaper more than 17 years ago and to this day unverified by military authorities, was one of many carried in the 1,500 pages the archives made available online.

The unnamed pilot said he and another airman were scrambled on the night of May 20, 1957, to intercept an unusual "bogey" on radars at a Royal Air Force Station Manston, an airfield at the southeastern tip of England about 75 miles from central London.

"This was a flying object with very unusual flight patterns," the pilot said, according to a typed manuscript of his account mailed to Britain's Ministry of Defense by a UFO enthusiast in 1988. "In the initial briefing it was suggested to us that the bogey actually was motionless for long intervals."

Ordered to fly at full throttle in cloudy weather, the pilot said he was given the order to fire a volley of 24 rockets at the mysterious object.

"To be quite candid I almost [expletive] my pants!" the pilot said, saying he asked for confirmation — which he received.

Retired U.S. airman Milton Torres told Britain's Sky News on Monday that he was the pilot and has spent 50 frustrating years attempting to uncover the truth of his aerial encounter.

Speaking from his home in Miami, Torres said he never saw the UFO with his naked eyes, but watched in awe as it appeared on his jet's radar and sped off before he had chance to fire.

"All of a sudden as it was coming in, it decided to take off and leave me behind ... The next thing I know it was gone," Torres told Sky News. "It was some kind of space alien craft. It was so fast, it was so incredible ... it was absolutely death-defying."

Impossible to miss?
In the newly published government file, the U.S. airman said the UFO appeared impossible to miss.

"The blip was burning a hole in the radar with its incredible intensity," the pilot said. "It was similar to a blip I had received from B-52's and seemed to be a magnet of light. ... I had a lock on that had the proportions of a flying aircraft carrier."

As he closed in on the object to prepare for combat, however, the object began to move wildly before fading off his radar. The target gone, the mission was called off, and he returned to base to an odd reception.

"I had not the foggiest idea what had actually occurred, nor would anyone explain anything to me," the pilot said. He said he was led to a man in civilian clothes, who "advised me that this would be considered highly classified and that I should not discuss it with anybody not even my commander."

"He disappeared without so much as a goodbye and that was that, as far as I was concerned," the pilot said, according to the account.

No military record
Britain's military said it had no record of the incident, according to the files. Neither did the U.S. military. The second pilot's account, also included in the files, paints a somewhat different picture of events, saying there were not one but several "unknowns" and that he did not remember being contacted by anyone about staying quiet. He did not mention the targets' size.

"I know this is not a very exciting narrative but it is all I can recall," the second pilot said.
His name, like his colleague's, was redacted from the files.

David Clarke, a UFO expert who has worked with the National Archives on the document release, said it was one of the most intriguing stories he had culled from the batch of files released Monday.

He said that the CIA once had a program intended to create phantom signals on radar — and that this may have been an exercise in electronic warfare. Whatever the case, Clarke argued that "there's no doubt something very unusual happened."

Clarke said the batch of files released Monday — which include witness accounts, investigations, and sketches — was part of a three- to four-year program intended to make a total of 160 UFO-related files available to the public.

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nobody is going to believe that ET is visiting here until aliens land on the white house lawn, unfortunately.

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unidentified flying object...
not aliens

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Quote: from prisoner of hss at 1:04 am on Oct. 21, 2008

nobody is going to believe that ET is visiting here until aliens land on the white house lawn, unfortunately.
yep something like that

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Quote: from matto at 10:07 pm on Oct. 20, 2008

unidentified flying object...
not aliens


This sounds pretty Alien to me!

You tell me what Man Made Object can do this I will give you a Cookie!

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Quote: from SunnySky at 6:10 am on Oct. 21, 2008

Quote: from matto at 10:07 pm on Oct. 20, 2008

unidentified flying object...  
 not aliens


This sounds pretty Alien to me!

You tell me what Man Made Object can do this I will give you a Cookie!


Your typical ECM machine.

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Quote: from SunnySky at 12:10 am on Oct. 21, 2008

Quote: from matto at 10:07 pm on Oct. 20, 2008

unidentified flying object...
not aliens

 
This sounds pretty Alien to me!  

You tell me what Man Made Object can do this I will give you a Cookie!


the F-22 Raptor

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Quote: from Tyrant at 5:10 am on Oct. 22, 2008

Quote: from SunnySky at 12:10 am on Oct. 21, 2008

Quote: from matto at 10:07 pm on Oct. 20, 2008

unidentified flying object...  
 not aliens


This sounds pretty Alien to me!

You tell me what Man Made Object can do this I will give you a Cookie!


the F-22 Raptor


The size of a FLYING AIRCRAFT CARRIER.

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Quote: from prisoner of hss at 5:24 pm on Oct. 22, 2008

Quote: from Tyrant at 5:10 am on Oct. 22, 2008

Quote: from SunnySky at 12:10 am on Oct. 21, 2008

Quote: from matto at 10:07 pm on Oct. 20, 2008

unidentified flying object...  
  not aliens

   
 This sounds pretty Alien to me!    

 You tell me what Man Made Object can do this I will give you a Cookie!


 

 the F-22 Raptor


The size of a FLYING AIRCRAFT CARRIER.

the B-2 Spirit

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Quote: from Tyrant at 5:01 am on Oct. 25, 2008

Quote: from prisoner of hss at 5:24 pm on Oct. 22, 2008

Quote: from Tyrant at 5:10 am on Oct. 22, 2008

Quote: from SunnySky at 12:10 am on Oct. 21, 2008

Quote: from matto at 10:07 pm on Oct. 20, 2008

unidentified flying object...    
 not aliens

     
This sounds pretty Alien to me!      

You tell me what Man Made Object can do this I will give you a Cookie!


   

the F-22 Raptor


The size of a FLYING AIRCRAFT CARRIER.

 

the B-2 Spirit


yeah in 1957

and its big but not THAT big

Post edited at 4:52 am on Oct. 25, 2008 by iconoclast

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or, it was literally just an unidentified flying object, which could be anything that flies and isn't identified, combined with a dodgy radar system and a nutcase.

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its too easy to just write off everyone who reports a UFO as a 'nutter'

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well, that's why i'm doing it.

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Quote: from prisoner of hss at 6:52 am on Oct. 25, 2008

Quote: from Tyrant at 5:01 am on Oct. 25, 2008

Quote: from prisoner of hss at 5:24 pm on Oct. 22, 2008

Quote: from Tyrant at 5:10 am on Oct. 22, 2008

Quote: from SunnySky at 12:10 am on Oct. 21, 2008

Quote: from matto at 10:07 pm on Oct. 20, 2008

unidentified flying object...  
  not aliens


  This sounds pretty Alien to me!

  You tell me what Man Made Object can do this I will give you a Cookie!


  the F-22 Raptor


The size of a FLYING AIRCRAFT CARRIER.

the B-2 Spirit


yeah in 1957

and its big but not THAT big


why not, its 180ft across, thats big to me

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Quote: from Tyrant at 8:19 am on Oct. 26, 2008

Quote: from prisoner of hss at 6:52 am on Oct. 25, 2008

Quote: from Tyrant at 5:01 am on Oct. 25, 2008

Quote: from prisoner of hss at 5:24 pm on Oct. 22, 2008

Quote: from Tyrant at 5:10 am on Oct. 22, 2008

Quote: from SunnySky at 12:10 am on Oct. 21, 2008

Quote: from matto at 10:07 pm on Oct. 20, 2008

unidentified flying object...      
   not aliens

       
  This sounds pretty Alien to me!        

  You tell me what Man Made Object can do this I will give you a Cookie!


     

  the F-22 Raptor


The size of a FLYING AIRCRAFT CARRIER.

   

 the B-2 Spirit


yeah in 1957  

 and its big but not THAT big


why not, its 180ft across, thats big to me


thats not nearly the size of a flying aircraft carrier, and again, 1957

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