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Lol my English Teacher hates me.
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We are reading Tuesdays with Morrie, and she loves the book, and today when we were talking about Morrie's view that love is great and we should all show emotion more often, then I stated that all violence has been caused by emotion in one form or another. She spent the WHOLE hour trying to beat that statement. Couldn't. Lol, she was so pissed at me, and the other kids were just like, "Wow, owned."

Would someone like to take me up on it? If you can actually beat me with a valid point I might give you some points...

Again, disprove that all violence is caused by emotion, directly or indirectly.

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Woo, mine does too.

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yeah, teachers always seem to be stubborn...my are really pyscho!

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Emotion is what causes every human action.
Also, I fucking hate that book/movie.

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Of course it is, because violence is an emotional reaction.  

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he said people should show emotion more often. he didn't specify what kind of emotion. he was probably talking about positive emotion, considering the positive connotation (i've never read the book) i highly doubt he was saying "i mean every form of emotion. if you're angry at a guy just punch him in the face" i doubt he was saying that sooo......therefore it seems your argument was unnecessary. (stop me if i'm wrong because like i said, i've never read the book) it's a shame ur teacher didn't think of that.

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Also: What was the point of the argument, other than pissing off the teacher?

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Quote: from pumpkin475 at 10:58 pm on Oct. 22, 2008

he said people should show emotion more often. he didn't specify what kind of emotion. he was probably talking about positive emotion, considering the positive connotation (i've never read the book) i highly doubt he was saying "i mean every form of emotion. if you're angry at a guy just punch him in the face" i doubt he was saying that sooo......therefore it seems your argument was unnecessary. (stop me if i'm wrong because like i said, i've never read the book) it's a shame ur teacher didn't think of that.

Except for the fact that positive connotation enables negative connotation such as insecurity and jealousy which can lead to violence.

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Quote: from TheLastMagister at 9:01 pm on Oct. 22, 2008

Quote: from pumpkin475 at 10:58 pm on Oct. 22, 2008

he said people should show emotion more often. he didn't specify what kind of emotion. he was probably talking about positive emotion, considering the positive connotation (i've never read the book) i highly doubt he was saying "i mean every form of emotion. if you're angry at a guy just punch him in the face" i doubt he was saying that sooo......therefore it seems your argument was unnecessary. (stop me if i'm wrong because like i said, i've never read the book) it's a shame ur teacher didn't think of that.
 
Except for the fact that positive connotation enables negative connotation such as insecurity and jealousy which can lead to violence.

lol but i doubt that's the point, ya know? i see what you're saying completely. but if i'm not mistaken, he was only speaking of innocently expressing your happiness and stuff like that. it just seems unecessary to make an argument about it when it seems he was just saying "hey if you're happy, express you're happiness" ya know? would you rather people be emotionless, expressionless robots in order to avoid any form of confrontation. people who do that usually live very depressing lives. and that's probabaly the point he was trying to make

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But even love and happiness will cause protectiveness, which leads to hostilities and violence. I am fine with love and emotion, and I accept violence as a part of humanity. A lot of people can't seem to understand the connection.

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Quote: from TheLastMagister at 9:08 pm on Oct. 22, 2008

But even love and happiness will cause protectiveness, which leads to hostilities and violence. I am fine with love and emotion, and I accept violence as a part of humanity. A lot of people can't seem to understand the connection.
i dont understand why people wouldn't be aware of the connection. the connection between them is very significant. but like i said before: would you rather everyone just walk around like emotionless, expressionless robots just to avoid confrontation? people who do that live very depressing live and i think that's is the point the guy in the book was trying to make. show your emotion. dont hid it back. everything has a downside but if you show you're emotion, at least you get some form of an upside. instead of wallowing in dreeriness

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Again, I don't view violence as a negative thing, it's a consequences, just like everything else, cause and effect. Just for some reason if you tell that to someone who is anti-war you will get a dirty look.

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Quote: from TheLastMagister at 9:15 pm on Oct. 22, 2008

Again, I don't view violence as a negative thing, it's a consequences, just like everything else, cause and effect. Just for some reason if you tell that to someone who is anti-war you will get a dirty look.
if u dont think it's negative, why make an argument on it with you're teacher? if you simply think it's a consequence, why go through the trouble of trying to make your teacher agree with you on something that you both actually agree on after all? if you're not against the violence that emotion brings, why try to turn the statement at hand around?

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Quote: from pumpkin475 at 11:36 pm on Oct. 22, 2008

Quote: from TheLastMagister at 9:15 pm on Oct. 22, 2008

Again, I don't view violence as a negative thing, it's a consequences, just like everything else, cause and effect. Just for some reason if you tell that to someone who is anti-war you will get a dirty look.
if u dont think it's negative, why make an argument on it with you're teacher? if you simply think it's a consequence, why go through the trouble of trying to make your teacher agree with you on something that you both actually agree on after all? if you're not against the violence that emotion brings, why try to turn the statement at hand around?


Because she was using love in the context of it being a "solve-all solution"

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Robots may cause violence. Robots don't have emotions.

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