I feel bad for saying that now..
Because after experiencing first hand, what I never thought I'd experience, I can tell you that you are exactly right..

But it does actually help, it's just not the best way to do it.
Because it lets out endorphins in which makes you feel good.

So there is some point in doing it..

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'Coz if you're not really there, then the stars don't even matter.

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the thing is it is only a temporary fix and they dont go and try find a way to fix the problem

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It helps at the moment, but it doesn't help in the long run.

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We are all a little weird, and life's a little weird,
And when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours,
We join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love.

There are too many factors in to it... and in general, if you are able to understand that everyone is different, and that everyone copes in different ways (not to mention that everyone has different psychological states), you'll be able to better understand it.

I mean, for me?  I can and can't understand why someone would drink or do drugs to get away.  I would never do it myself, and for that reason, I can't first hand understand how it makes them feel.  But I CAN speculate WHY they do it, and understand by that means.

Just as people sit here and need advice on a crush they might have.  Again... I've never experienced problems like that, and it's never been such an important factor in my life... but I can understand that other people have different values and different things are important to others.

So experience isn't the only thing that makes you understand.  You may be able to relate better if you've been through something similar, but that doesn't mean you can't necessarily "understand".

This is one major flaw that has been affecting me since the day I came to LiveWire. I have been brought up to be extremely sheltered and therefore oblivious to all of the issues present in today's society. All of the issues on LiveWire are new to me. I don't have experience with practically anything on this site - except for relationships and just general problems.

Being a Support Leader, I try to do the best that I can in addressing as many situations as I can and helping everyone I can. I love helping people and therefore, I feel bad when I don't know how to help someone because of my lack of experience in it. LiveWire has been a learning experience for me and I really do want to learn more about issues that I am not familiar with such as depression, self-harm, sex, etc.

I know what you're saying and you're absolutely right. People who say things like "You have no reason to cut" or "It's pointless and won't solve anything" are just totally ignorant. What they don't realise is that their ignorance will be heard (read) by people who are very vulnerable and emotional and therefore, what they're saying can truly affect them in a negative way. That's why all of us really need to be careful when replying to posts regarding self-harm, depression and suicide.

However, people don't need to necessarily *experience* it in order to fully understand it.  I mean, I don't need to sit here and put a blade to my wrist in order to fully understand how someone who self-harm feels.  I can understand it just as well by learning more about it.  However, I do understand what you mean, there are certain things that come from experience and I respect that.

Post edited at 8:22 pm on Sep. 12, 2008 by Define Your Line

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You're like a bullet to my brain, I'm numb, can't kill my fun.
If you're good and done then thank you just the same.
I don't owe you anything.

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You're wrong.

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I didn't know my opinion could be wrong.
This is new to me, since when can someones opinion be wrong?

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We are all a little weird, and life's a little weird,
And when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours,
We join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love.

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I do understand what you're saying. I've never self-harmed but I know people who do. I would never tell them that there was no point in what they were doing or anything like that. I understand that people have their own reasons for cutting and no, I will not fully understand it until I experience it first-hand.

This is one major flaw that has been affecting me since the day I came to LiveWire. I have been brought up to be extremely sheltered and therefore oblivious to all of the issues present in today's society. All of the issues on LiveWire are new to me. I don't have experience with practically anything on this site - except for relationships and just general problems.

Being a Support Leader, I try to do the best that I can in addressing as many situations as I can and helping everyone I can. I love helping people and therefore, I feel bad when I don't know how to help someone because of my lack of experience in it. LiveWire has been a learning experience for me and I really do want to learn more about issues that I am not familiar with such as depression, self-harm, sex, etc.

I know what you're saying and you're absolutely right. People who say things like "You have no reason to cut" or "It's pointless and won't solve anything" are just totally ignorant. What they don't realise is that their ignorance will be heard (read) by people who are very vulnerable and emotional and therefore, what they're saying can truly affect them in a negative way. That's why all of us really need to be careful when replying to posts regarding self-harm, depression and suicide.

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:)
I see why you are a support leader.
Thank you.

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We are all a little weird, and life's a little weird,
And when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours,
We join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love.

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Quote: from Phoenix 2008 at 8:14 pm on Sep. 12, 2008

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the thing is it is only a temporary fix and they dont go and try find a way to fix the problem

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It helps at the moment, but it doesn't help in the long run.

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