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giddytoads Posted at 3:02 am on June 28, 2008
I don't see the major problem with self harming.

I mean, obviously there are self harmer's out there that just take it to the EXTREME and carve themselves to pieces and have to go to hospital and stuff like that... but couldn't self harm in small doses be acceptable??

I mean, if the self harmer wasn't unhappy about it, if it provided the harmer with away to cope, why should we scrutinize it??

Because it isn't socially acceptable or what??

What actually IS wrong with self harming if it isn't making you unhappy??

thoughts please

x

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silverbullets Posted at 4:37 pm on June 29, 2008
self harm may start in small doses but it will never stay. you will eventually stop feeling good from little cuts and they will get deeper and bigger. i dont think theres any problem with SI. and just cause someone cuts deeper than another, dosnt mean they have to go to the hospital. krazyglue is usefull to seal cuts back together
giddytoads Posted at 12:50 pm on June 29, 2008
Quote: from blufindr at 3:32 am on June 28, 2008

i fucking love being dissociated.
i'm always dissociated now.
it's like being drunk 24/7

i know, it's awesome

drunkenmess Posted at 4:16 am on June 28, 2008
i agree with it. cz i still do it my sen :(.
but if you do it to an extreme then yeah its bad
blufindr Posted at 3:32 am on June 28, 2008
i fucking love being dissociated.
i'm always dissociated now.
it's like being drunk 24/7
roflfuckyou Posted at 3:24 am on June 28, 2008
Quote: from giddytoads at 8:06 pm on June 28, 2008

Quote: from roflfuckyou at 3:05 am on June 28, 2008

um because self harming leads to worse self harming which leads to suicide? And that has been proven. No one just nicks themselves forever then gives up.. they get progressively worse.  
 Don't encourage self harming. Isn't it better to cope in healthier ways than thinking it's ok to hurt yourself?

please specify these "better ways"


Uhhh are you serious?
You think the only way to relieve emotional/mental pain is to cut yourself? If you do then you need to wake up :S
It's called psychiatrists and medicine and depends on why you hurt yourself.


ANGRY, FRUSTRATED, RESTLESS?
   Try something physical and violent, something not directed at a living thing:
   Slash an empty plastic soda bottle or a piece of heavy cardboard or an old shirt or sock.
   Make a soft cloth doll to represent the things you are angry at. Cut and tear it instead of yourself.
   Flatten aluminum cans for recycling, seeing how fast you can go.
   Hit a punching bag.
   Scream into a pillow, use a pillow to hit a wall, pillow-fight style.
   Rip up an old newspaper or phone book.
   On a sketch or photo of yourself, mark in red ink what you want to do. Cut and tear the picture.
   Make Play-Doh or Sculpey or other clay models and cut or smash them.
   Throw ice into the bathtub or against a brick wall hard enough to shatter it.
   Crank up the music and dance.
   Go for a walk/jog/run.
   Stomp around in heavy shoes.
   Play handball or tennis.


SAD, SOFT, MELANCHOLY, DEPRESSED, UNHAPPY
   Do something slow and soothing, like taking a hot bath with bath oil or bubbles, curling up under a comforter with hot cocoa and a good book, babying yourself somehow. Do whatever makes you feel taken care of and comforted. Light sweet-smelling incense. Listen to soothing music. Smooth nice body lotion into the parts or yourself you want to hurt. Call a friend and just talk about things that you like. Make a tray of special treats and tuck yourself into bed with it and watch TV or read. Visit a friend.


WANT SCARS, PICK SCABS?
   Get a henna tattoo kit. You put the henna on as a paste and leave it overnight; the next day you can pick it off as you would a scab and it leaves an orange-red mark behind.


WANT TO SEE BLOOD?
   Draw on yourself with a red felt-tip pen.
   Take a small bottle of liquid red food coloring and warm it slightly by dropping it into a cup of hot water for a few minutes. Uncap the bottle and press its tip against the place you want to cut. Draw the bottle in a cutting motion while squeezing it slightly to let the food color trickle out.
   Draw on the areas you want to cut using ice that you've made by dropping six or seven drops of red food color into each of the ice-cube tray wells.
   Paint yourself with red tempera paint.


WANT A FOCUS?
   Do a task (a computer game like tetris or minesweeper, writing a computer program, needlework, etc) that is exacting and requires focus and concentration.
   Eat a raisin mindfully. Pick it up, noticing how it feels in your hand. Look at it carefully; see the asymmetries and think about the changes the grape went through. Roll the raisin in your fingers and notice the texture; try to describe it. Bring the raisin up to your mouth, paying attention to how it feels to move your hand that way. Smell the raisin; what does it remind you of? How does a raisin smell? Notice that you're beginning to salivate, and see how that feels. Open your mouth and put the raisin in, taking time to think about how the raisin feels to your tongue. Chew slowly, noticing how the texture and even the taste of the raisin change as you chew it. Are there little seeds or stems? How is the inside different from the outside? Finally, swallow.
   Choose an object in the room. Examine it carefully and then write as detailed a description of it as you can. Include everything: size, weight, texture, shape, color, possible uses, feel, etc.
   Choose a random object, like a paper clip, and try to list 30 different uses for it.
   Pick a subject and research it on the web.


CRAVING SENSATION, FEELING DEPERSONALIZED, DISSOCIATING, FEELING UNREAL?
   Do something that creates a sharp physical sensation:
   Squeeze ice hard (this really hurts). (Note: putting ice on a spot you want to burn gives you a strong painful sensation and leaves a red mark afterward, kind of like burning would.)
   Put a finger into a frozen food (like ice cream) for a minute.
   Bite into a hot pepper or chew a piece of ginger root.
   Rub liniment under your nose.
   Slap a tabletop hard.
   Snap your wrist with a rubber band.
   Take a cold bath.
   Stomp your feet on the ground.
   Focus on how it feels to breathe. Notice the way your chest and stomach move with each breath.
   [NOTE: Some people report that being online while dissociating increases their sense of unreality; be cautious about logging on in a dissociative state until you know how it affects you.]

Do you see how there are other ways now?
:S

Ad libitum Posted at 3:18 am on June 28, 2008
Quote: from Jewboy at 11:07 am on June 28, 2008

its bad cuz it creates more depression... its kinda like alchahol in the cold, u feel warmer for a while becauz it makes u numb and postpone the cold, where its constricting ur bloodcells making u colder

Yeah, that's true. What people need are alternative solutions instead. The only way that will happen is by media attention. The media need to focus on depression, like they do with any other illness. There needs to be better promotion of counsellors and therapists etc.

its only me Posted at 3:14 am on June 28, 2008
because its addictive and only gets worse.. if its gets to far out of hand it gets dangerously addictive and you lose sight of the other ways to cope. Though i dont think its fair when ppl say 'stop cutting' because what people dont realise is it is addictive and if its the only way you know how to cope, then its never just as simple as stopping
xidontcarex Posted at 3:13 am on June 28, 2008
Self harm isn't really good though, the way I've had to deal with it anyways. It's just like any drug, the more you do and longer you do it, the worse it gets.
shazza1515 Posted at 3:12 am on June 28, 2008
yes and no

i cut for a yr and i was fucked

Keego05 Posted at 3:10 am on June 28, 2008
Self harming is fucking stupid. It's just attention seeking imo.
blufindr Posted at 3:08 am on June 28, 2008
Quote: from giddytoads at 3:05 am on June 28, 2008

Quote: from blufindr at 3:04 am on June 28, 2008

because it's considered unacceptable by society.  
 because for the most part, it's been blown out of proportions.  
 and because it can be as addictive as crack.  

 this is coming from an ex-cutter and abuser of legal drugs.


why did you feel you needed to stop cutting?


because i stopped being able to stand looking at my boyfriend and seeing the absolute devastation i caused by that particular form of self-abuse. eventually, it got to the point where i just couldn't cut anymore, because i'd just start thinking about him.
he doesn't know about the drugs, though, so i haven't been able to quit that.

roflfuckyou Posted at 3:07 am on June 28, 2008
Quote: from blufindr at 8:04 pm on June 28, 2008

because it's considered unacceptable by society.
because for the most part, it's been blown out of proportions.
and because it can be as addictive as crack.

this is coming from an ex-cutter and abuser of legal drugs.


I agree. Myself being a sort of ex cutter and an abuser of ill/legal drugs.

Jewboy Posted at 3:07 am on June 28, 2008
its bad cuz it creates more depression... its kinda like alchahol in the cold, u feel warmer for a while becauz it makes u numb and postpone the cold, where its constricting ur bloodcells making u colder
Ad libitum Posted at 3:06 am on June 28, 2008
I heard that there are people who teach you to harm in the right way, for those who really can't stop. Or so a teacher once said when someone brought it up...

And, I think it's just unacceptable, because of people's ignorance. They push people too far, and then wonder why people SH or even try and overdose.

There are adverts about excessive drinking and smoking, so why not depression?

Personally, I think there needs to be better promotion when it comes to finding counsellors too. Where I live, they are impossible to trace.

Also, as a nation we need to be more focused on the fact that depression does happen, and need to find solutions - and fast!

giddytoads Posted at 3:06 am on June 28, 2008
Quote: from roflfuckyou at 3:05 am on June 28, 2008

um because self harming leads to worse self harming which leads to suicide? And that has been proven. No one just nicks themselves forever then gives up.. they get progressively worse.
Don't encourage self harming. Isn't it better to cope in healthier ways than thinking it's ok to hurt yourself?

please specify these "better ways"

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