Mental health is a grey enough area to the professionals in some cases so im wondering if any people have managed to learn from their own diagnosis and take it further to get professional help / advice.
Quote: from prisoner of hss at 8:38 am on Nov. 20, 2008 I agree. Labels help though when there is a serious syndrome of symptoms. The label helps the patient to better understand his condition, and to learn how to cope and treat it. When it's just a set of emotional problems, I don't see why. It's much more honest to just understand the cause. It doesn't matter how bad it is. Many people like you are worse off with labels, more severe cases where the patient is disabled by their emotional instability need a label, and an explanation to be able to get better. That's only because they receive shitty support so they cling to some shitty label to feel better about themselves. And by the way, my problems were 'very severe'. I was 'disabled' by them according to many. The 'labels' appeared to "help" and might make one feel better superficially, but it doesn't do anything in the long run. I felt all better understood and more aware after getting some silly labels for awhile, but it's really very self defeating. I don't want to get into a debate here, but minimizing ANYONE to some stupid label seems like the wrong thing to do, and the same thing applies to people with 'severe' problems; don't assume that my problems weren't very very severe just because I got over them. DO you mind sharing what you were labeled with and how you overcame it in the end. I agree I don't want to debate this either. I'm just curious of your history.
I agree. Labels help though when there is a serious syndrome of symptoms. The label helps the patient to better understand his condition, and to learn how to cope and treat it. When it's just a set of emotional problems, I don't see why. It's much more honest to just understand the cause. It doesn't matter how bad it is. Many people like you are worse off with labels, more severe cases where the patient is disabled by their emotional instability need a label, and an explanation to be able to get better. That's only because they receive shitty support so they cling to some shitty label to feel better about themselves. And by the way, my problems were 'very severe'. I was 'disabled' by them according to many. The 'labels' appeared to "help" and might make one feel better superficially, but it doesn't do anything in the long run. I felt all better understood and more aware after getting some silly labels for awhile, but it's really very self defeating. I don't want to get into a debate here, but minimizing ANYONE to some stupid label seems like the wrong thing to do, and the same thing applies to people with 'severe' problems; don't assume that my problems weren't very very severe just because I got over them.
I agree. Labels help though when there is a serious syndrome of symptoms. The label helps the patient to better understand his condition, and to learn how to cope and treat it.
Many people like you are worse off with labels, more severe cases where the patient is disabled by their emotional instability need a label, and an explanation to be able to get better.
That's only because they receive shitty support so they cling to some shitty label to feel better about themselves. And by the way, my problems were 'very severe'. I was 'disabled' by them according to many. The 'labels' appeared to "help" and might make one feel better superficially, but it doesn't do anything in the long run. I felt all better understood and more aware after getting some silly labels for awhile, but it's really very self defeating.
I don't want to get into a debate here, but minimizing ANYONE to some stupid label seems like the wrong thing to do, and the same thing applies to people with 'severe' problems; don't assume that my problems weren't very very severe just because I got over them.
DO you mind sharing what you were labeled with and how you overcame it in the end. I agree I don't want to debate this either. I'm just curious of your history.
I was always curious though, so I started to look into this, and realized that these claims were more and more tenuous as time went on, and this spurred a lot of doubts. It also caused a ton of emotional trouble for me, because now I was forced to figure myself out. But in the long run this really paid off, though not immediately. For awhile I had figured myself out but had no idea how to get out of my rut, and this went on until a bunch of things made me incredibly cynical and shifted the blame from inside to outside.
It was a lot of things, but I can name a few of the things that opened the floodgates;
1) My parents utter lack of empathy for me expressing that I didn't want to be in there
2) My friend getting me thrown in there doing it to be "caring" after acting callous and insensitive to me for months before, then refusing to admit he did wrong
3) Realizing that people were socially conditioned to act in these stupid ways
4) Some of the crap in there really made me realize how FUCKED UP the system, and much of society was. I acknowledged it generally already, but this really brought it into the spotlight.
There was a lot, lot more, I'm just giving some examples of what started it. I'm pretty sure I could have come to that without that event specifically if I had looked in the right places, which probably would have happened eventually. The gradual increase in cynicism eventually got rid of my self defeating mindset and gave me a lot of confidence I didn't before.
Quote: from disillusioned at 12:00 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from RIMHfire at 4:48 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 They have spilt personalities. No. That's MPD sugar. Actually the new correct term is DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder). And yes i've self diagnosed myself with things and then ended up getting diagnosed later for it.
Quote: from RIMHfire at 4:48 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 They have spilt personalities. No. That's MPD sugar.
They have spilt personalities.
No. That's MPD sugar.
Actually the new correct term is DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder).
And yes i've self diagnosed myself with things and then ended up getting diagnosed later for it.
You can't self-diagnose idiot...even if you've been diagnosed later is only coincidence.
Mental disorders 'diagnoses' are ambiguous bullshit, so I'd say it's pretty much the same as a 'professional'. Behavioral patterns happen for a reason, I'd be much more concerned with figuring out the reasons behind my feelings rather than getting some label. This is especially true if there's no APPARENT reason, felt that way for me before but there were lots of subtle psychological systems which I needed to iron out before I even had a chance to get better. All that I learned from was analyzing my own feelings, the vast majority of people, professionals included, had no fucking clue about me, and the stupid labels didn't help either.
All that I learned from was analyzing my own feelings, the vast majority of people, professionals included, had no fucking clue about me, and the stupid labels didn't help either.
There are many ways to victimize people. One way is to convince them that they are victims.
Quote: from nadiiasorgente at 4:52 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Quote: from mikeyp123 at 12:46 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Has anyone got any experience / knowledge of someone correctly diagnosing themselves with Bi-Polar? Mental health is a grey enough area to the professionals in some cases so im wondering if any people have managed to learn from their own diagnosis and take it further to get professional help / advice. I'm honestly not too sure what your asking, but im bi-polar. my parents always knew something was weird about me and my anger issues but never got it checked out. i then myself searched on the internet what it was and i ended up getting diagnosed with it about a year later. I was basically asking as to what you replied anyway heh! Well yeah it's quite difficult because the symptoms are rather broad and is it whether its a combination or a requirement to have all of them?
Quote: from mikeyp123 at 12:46 pm on Nov. 19, 2008 Has anyone got any experience / knowledge of someone correctly diagnosing themselves with Bi-Polar? Mental health is a grey enough area to the professionals in some cases so im wondering if any people have managed to learn from their own diagnosis and take it further to get professional help / advice. I'm honestly not too sure what your asking, but im bi-polar. my parents always knew something was weird about me and my anger issues but never got it checked out. i then myself searched on the internet what it was and i ended up getting diagnosed with it about a year later.
Has anyone got any experience / knowledge of someone correctly diagnosing themselves with Bi-Polar? Mental health is a grey enough area to the professionals in some cases so im wondering if any people have managed to learn from their own diagnosis and take it further to get professional help / advice.
I was basically asking as to what you replied anyway heh! Well yeah it's quite difficult because the symptoms are rather broad and is it whether its a combination or a requirement to have all of them?
Seriously to be honest its all about basically...they base the test on your moods/anger/if you have a splitpersonality ro someshit. it was quite a while ago but yes its more of a combination. you can have some syptoms of being bi-polar...yet not be. make sense?
a professional opinion is always the most trusted answer, but a doctor can't make a proper diagnosis without asking YOU what is wrong, and you know yourself best.
and, the way doctors often look at things is..they'd rather over diagnose someone than run the risk of not treating something that could be possibly serious.
pm me if you ever need to talk
And they say peoples perceptions of mental health are ignorant..heh
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