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CuteKittenofDoom Posted at 8:25 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
Instead of the usual cutting or burning, I just get some ice and rub it against the palm of my hand until hurts a lot. and even then I keep it on there.

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Gabriel Gray Posted at 3:02 pm on Nov. 20, 2008
Quote: from katiescarlett at 9:31 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

Quote: from N e o at 8:28 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

Quote: from katiescarlett at 9:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.

  You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution.


 

 It could very possibly become a real injury. Believe it or not ice can "burn" the skin. Less likely it can cause frost bite if the surrounding environment is also cold.


But, really, that's not going to happen with ice you get out of your freezer.

Sure, if they sat on a fucking ICEBERG they could really hurt themselves. But holding an icecube in your hand? Not so much.


I was just pointing out the fact that its not impossible to do... Even with ice from the freezer. (More likely if they have a sub-zero freezer)

dreamweaver Posted at 9:12 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
It just makes it that much more difficult to get over the habit. And using ice in this matter, can hurt you in the long run. So... really, how does it help? I don't see much improvement in that at all.
kay dee Posted at 9:02 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
Quote: from dreamweaver at 8:49 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:33 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

Quote: from dreamweaver at 8:30 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.    

  You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution.


  It's not how you do it, it's why you do it.
 


 

 Yeah, but if doing that stops someone from slicing their arms/legs all to pieces, I'm all for suggesting it. I've been through SI for years, and I've found solutions. If I could stop someone else from doing REAL damage, even if it was just to find a substitution like this, i would be more for it than saying "OH GOD, DON'T DO THAT!" because that doesn't really help at all.


Then you understand they should find a better and healthier alternative. They're playing with their mind about their pain- not good to play mindtricks on yourself. Finding another alternative, one that doesn't do such things, would be a much better thing to encourage than this sort of behavior.  

Physically, it may sound great to do. But it still affects the brain in the same way.


The depression or stress is going to anyway.
We're not magic, sweetheart.

dreamweaver Posted at 8:49 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:33 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

Quote: from dreamweaver at 8:30 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.

  You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution.


 

 It's not how you do it, it's why you do it.  


Yeah, but if doing that stops someone from slicing their arms/legs all to pieces, I'm all for suggesting it. I've been through SI for years, and I've found solutions. If I could stop someone else from doing REAL damage, even if it was just to find a substitution like this, i would be more for it than saying "OH GOD, DON'T DO THAT!" because that doesn't really help at all.


Then you understand they should find a better and healthier alternative. They're playing with their mind about their pain- not good to play mindtricks on yourself. Finding another alternative, one that doesn't do such things, would be a much better thing to encourage than this sort of behavior.

Physically, it may sound great to do. But it still affects the brain in the same way.

HuffleHaire Posted at 8:43 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
Just don't start using dry ice, and sounds good.
kay dee Posted at 8:33 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
Quote: from dreamweaver at 8:30 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.  

 You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution.


It's not how you do it, it's why you do it.


Yeah, but if doing that stops someone from slicing their arms/legs all to pieces, I'm all for suggesting it. I've been through SI for years, and I've found solutions. If I could stop someone else from doing REAL damage, even if it was just to find a substitution like this, i would be more for it than saying "OH GOD, DON'T DO THAT!" because that doesn't really help at all.

kay dee Posted at 8:31 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
Quote: from N e o at 8:28 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

Quote: from katiescarlett at 9:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.  

 You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution.


It could very possibly become a real injury. Believe it or not ice can "burn" the skin. Less likely it can cause frost bite if the surrounding environment is also cold.


But, really, that's not going to happen with ice you get out of your freezer.

Sure, if they sat on a fucking ICEBERG they could really hurt themselves. But holding an icecube in your hand? Not so much.

dreamweaver Posted at 8:30 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.

You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution.


It's not how you do it, it's why you do it.

OP: Why do you try to punish yourself like that? Is it because it helps satisfy your mind in a sick way (to say it rather bluntly)? Is it to help relieve yourself of emotional pain?

If you say yes to these... then it is indeed considered as SI. Maybe not something serious, but it could get worse. If you're looking for help, talk to someone about your feelings instead of holding them in and then releasing them like that. You need to find an alternative route for your pain, one that won't harm your body or mind. If you feel you can't do it on your own, talk to a therapist about it at least. Before you do something that could really do some harm.

blake da jew Posted at 8:30 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
Quote: from xsolox at 8:27 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

Yes do this!
It is a much better alternative to cutting/burning

Much better
But still not good for u
But if it helps u then fine

kay dee Posted at 8:29 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
Quote: from whoami111 at 8:27 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

Quote: from katiescarlett at 8:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.  

 You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution.


actually it could do some damage in the long run

Not if they just use ice cubes they are getting out of their freezer.

They'd melt before they could cause any real bodily harm.

Gabriel Gray Posted at 8:28 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
Quote: from katiescarlett at 9:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.

You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution.


It could very possibly become a real injury. Believe it or not ice can "burn" the skin. Less likely it can cause frost bite if the surrounding environment is also cold.

Malachite Morning Posted at 8:28 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
Quote: from katiescarlett at 11:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.

You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution.


Indeed, decent alternative.

MilesSoftball Posted at 8:28 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
If you put salt on the ice first it hurts worse...

Its no fun :(

whoami111 Posted at 8:27 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
Quote: from katiescarlett at 8:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

It's technically not "self injury" because you're not making an actual injury. Once it re-heats, you're fine.

You couldn't do any REAL damage, so it seems like an acceptable solution.


actually it could do some damage in the long run
drifting Posted at 8:27 pm on Nov. 19, 2008
Unless you can find a large enough chunk to give you frostbite, its not self harm.

Actually, thats kinda a nice solution though. Ill remember that and recommend it next time someone wants to stop cutting.

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