Adding Reply Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Iraqi and Middle Eastern soldiers. Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post Wakeupcall Posted at 1:36 pm on July 1, 2008 I know this may be odd, but does anyone have any numbers on how many Iraqi soldiers and civilians have been killed by the war? Or Afghan or whatever. I'm taking a moment to remember the people who died on that side. It just seems they may find it harder to get by in such poverty-stricken country. -_-... Thanks.

Replies Wakeupcall Posted at 3:17 pm on July 1, 2008 Quote: from Assaultrifle at 2:53 pm on July 1, 2008 I know a minority are terroists. But the guy said "no one deserves to die for violence", and i was pointing out that enemy soldiers (not civilians) indeed should be killed. Also, i was referring mostly to Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah terrorists, not Iraqis, although many groups in Iraq are terrorists.   And trust me, the terrorists do not do it for their families. They do it for "Islam" They believe that this is their destiny and they must destroy the "oppressors" (aka America and perhaps Europe) in the name of Islam and Allah. They don't care about anything else, which explains why so many of them are suicide bombers. I said the civilian deaths are unfortunate. Killing civilians is not what we're there for. But in a war consisting mostly of urban combat, its impossible to not have many civilian casualties.   The War is Iraq is good because Saddam has been removed from power, and although things are not looking that good yet, if we can stabilize iraq its economy and people will prosper and be free of violence and oppression. And then we will leave. And yeah Islam is supposed to be peaceful, and most muslims are peaceul, but we are not at war with the peaceful muslims. We are at war with terrorists and people who help and support terrorists. Yeah. America is going to stabilize Iraq. Ok. I'll believe that. I'm not opposed to big countries helping struggling countries. I'm not opposed to countering terrorism. I AM opposed to our soldiers rushing in there and fucking things up. That's what we're doing. Assaultrifle Posted at 2:53 pm on July 1, 2008 I know a minority are terroists. But the guy said "no one deserves to die for violence", and i was pointing out that enemy soldiers (not civilians) indeed should be killed. Also, i was referring mostly to Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah terrorists, not Iraqis, although many groups in Iraq are terrorists. And trust me, the terrorists do not do it for their families. They do it for "Islam" They believe that this is their destiny and they must destroy the "oppressors" (aka America and perhaps Europe) in the name of Islam and Allah. They don't care about anything else, which explains why so many of them are suicide bombers. I said the civilian deaths are unfortunate. Killing civilians is not what we're there for. But in a war consisting mostly of urban combat, its impossible to not have many civilian casualties. The War is Iraq is good because Saddam has been removed from power, and although things are not looking that good yet, if we can stabilize iraq its economy and people will prosper and be free of violence and oppression. And then we will leave. And yeah Islam is supposed to be peaceful, and most muslims are peaceul, but we are not at war with the peaceful muslims. We are at war with terrorists and people who help and support terrorists. Wakeupcall Posted at 2:42 pm on July 1, 2008 Quote: from Assaultrifle at 2:28 pm on July 1, 2008 oh and of course i forgot some other things: The terrorists are planning to acquire chemical weapons to use on the US The terrorists have also killed civilians in Britain and other places The terrorists launch mortars and RPGs at regular people's houses and vilages just because they are a different sect of the same religion The terrorists are a threat because they could attack again and this time be even more deadly Are you still sure we shouldn't kill them? Hey, buddy. Unbelievably, not ALL, in fact, a minority of Iraqi people are terrorists. Hey, I'm sure many of their soldiers and even terrorists only do the things they do for fear of their families and things dying. They're people pal, and hundreds of thousands, even a million of them have died needlessly because of a STUPID WAR. Islam is a peaceful religion. Assaultrifle Posted at 2:28 pm on July 1, 2008 oh and of course i forgot some other things: The terrorists are planning to acquire chemical weapons to use on the US The terrorists have also killed civilians in Britain and other places The terrorists launch mortars and RPGs at regular people's houses and vilages just because they are a different sect of the same religion The terrorists are a threat because they could attack again and this time be even more deadly Are you still sure we shouldn't kill them? Assaultrifle Posted at 2:22 pm on July 1, 2008 Oh really? Do normal people hijack airplanes and kill 3000 civilians? And think they will go to heaven because of it? Do normal people strap bombs to mentally disabled women and trick them into being a suicide bomber? Do normal people blow themselves up because they think if they kill people they will go to heaven? Do normal people use children as young as 14 as suicide bombers? Or use kids as young as 8 as infantry? Do normal people throw their own little children into the street in front of an American Convoy thats going 60mph in an effort o make the convoy stop so they can ambush it? Do normal people say things like, "I would be happy if my son died for islam.", and their son is 3 years old? Do normal people kidnap another person's little child and use it as a shield against israeli snipers? I didnt think so. The terrorists have done all of the things i stated above and more 420mike Posted at 2:11 pm on July 1, 2008 Quote: from Assaultrifle at 5:07 pm on July 1, 2008 I know, it's truly disgusting.  These people are ending life to defend values that a lot of them probably dont even support.  Especially on the Afghanistan, Iranian, and the soliders in Iraq for the most part.  They even make the US army a bitch to get out of and have your name filed away if they ever need youe. I would never take the life of another person.  Nobody deserves to die of violence.  I don't see why everyone can't just see eye to eye, walk hand in hand and live peacefully.  Fuck this war shit.  Ends lives, ruins families, leaves former cities plague stricken and economically destroyed.. For what?  Some fucking oil, enforcing our values on another country.  It's not worth it. Democracy is an important value. Im pretty sure most of our troops support it.   Who cares if theyre ending the lives of enemy soldiers? If those enemy soldeirs don't wanna die, they could just not f*** with us and lay down their arms. Most extremist muslim insurgents WANT to die in combat anyway because they believe they will go to heaven if they die while fighting American troops. Now civilians are a different story, their deaths are indeed unfortunate. But why would u care about enemy soldiers wtf? There people, man. Assaultrifle Posted at 2:07 pm on July 1, 2008 I know, it's truly disgusting.  These people are ending life to defend values that a lot of them probably dont even support.  Especially on the Afghanistan, Iranian, and the soliders in Iraq for the most part.  They even make the US army a bitch to get out of and have your name filed away if they ever need youe. I would never take the life of another person.  Nobody deserves to die of violence.  I don't see why everyone can't just see eye to eye, walk hand in hand and live peacefully.  Fuck this war shit.  Ends lives, ruins families, leaves former cities plague stricken and economically destroyed.. For what?  Some fucking oil, enforcing our values on another country.  It's not worth it. Democracy is an important value. Im pretty sure most of our troops support it. Who cares if theyre ending the lives of enemy soldiers? If those enemy soldeirs don't wanna die, they could just not f*** with us and lay down their arms. Most extremist muslim insurgents WANT to die in combat anyway because they believe they will go to heaven if they die while fighting American troops. Now civilians are a different story, their deaths are indeed unfortunate. But why would u care about enemy soldiers wtf? 420mike Posted at 1:51 pm on July 1, 2008 Quote: from cherrys77 at 4:39 pm on July 1, 2008 It's so sad. I hate when people kill other people. Life is the most precious thing ever and no one deserves to have it taken away. I know, it's truly disgusting.  These people are ending life to defend values that a lot of them probably dont even support.  Especially on the Afghanistan, Iranian, and the soliders in Iraq for the most part.  They even make the US army a bitch to get out of and have your name filed away if they ever need youe. I would never take the life of another person.  Nobody deserves to die of violence.  I don't see why everyone can't just see eye to eye, walk hand in hand and live peacefully.  Fuck this war shit.  Ends lives, ruins families, leaves former cities plague stricken and economically destroyed.. For what?  Some fucking oil, enforcing our values on another country.  It's not worth it. sharp7 Posted at 1:51 pm on July 1, 2008 1,033,000 as of August 2007 Wakeupcall Posted at 1:49 pm on July 1, 2008 Quote: from Narfle the Garthok at 1:40 pm on July 1, 2008 ask google actually hold on ill ask google for you and pretend I got the number from my own brain.   1,033,000 as of August 2007 so I am assuming a bit more since August 2007. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War More information. Jesus H Christ. I thought it was just a couple thousand. Tigerhawk Posted at 1:44 pm on July 1, 2008 I dont feel bad for the soldiers. Most of the soldiers anyways. People are bound to die. If they didnt, think of how many humans there'd be in this world and how much wildlife would be left. But I gotta tell you, I have watched many movies and i have lived in poverty before and its not pretty at all. Totally something I would NEVER want to go back to. Green Turd Posted at 1:43 pm on July 1, 2008 1,033,000 as of August 2007 And I wish every last person who had to suffer from the loss of friends and family peace. Narfle the Garthok Posted at 1:40 pm on July 1, 2008 ask google actually hold on ill ask google for you and pretend I got the number from my own brain. 1,033,000 as of August 2007 so I am assuming a bit more since August 2007. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War More information. cherrys77 Posted at 1:39 pm on July 1, 2008 It's so sad. I hate when people kill other people. Life is the most precious thing ever and no one deserves to have it taken away. All 14 previous replies displayed.