Adding Reply Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Airports May Scan For Illegal Downloads on Mobile Devices Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post qi Posted at 6:06 pm on July 25, 2008 Oh fuck. For anyone out there who has illegally downloaded music or movies, you may want to pay attention to this. The leaders of the G8, meeting this week, are seemingly ready to ratify an agreement that would allow customs agents to search your mobile devices (computer, phone, iPod, etc.) for illegally downloaded media content. The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (Acta) is considered a step toward stopping piracy, but the logistics of implementing a discretionary system for carrying out the agreement are mind boggling. Consider this: Half of the songs on the average teen's iPod are illegally downloaded. The biggest concern is that people who have downloaded media for personal use will be at risk of punishment, though no one knows exactly what the punishment would be. It has been reported however, that the European Parliament has suggested kicking offenders off the Internet. The scenario most likely to materialize is that only those with massive amounts of MP3 or movie content would be at risk. Whatever way the G8 rules, one has to wonder what difference it will make. http://www.switched.com/2008/07/20/airports-may-scan-for-illegal-downloads-on-mobile-devices/

Replies littlebigwonder Posted at 4:25 pm on Aug. 2, 2008 Quote: from gregorymahony at 3:27 pm on July 27, 2008 Quote: from littlebigwonder at 6:09 pm on July 25, 2008 it better not happen    I'm flying this weekend..    and EVERYTHING on my ipod is from Limewire..   lulz cheapscate! "lulz" it has nothing to do with being cheap. I bet you I have more money than you do anyways. its a matter of convience.. why pay for something when you don't have to? nikki Posted at 3:32 pm on July 27, 2008 Quote: from 4est at 10:42 pm on July 27, 2008 Quote: from Nikki at 12:35 pm on July 27, 2008 Quote: from 4est at 4:21 am on July 27, 2008 But I think we all agree that this is tidlywinks compared to the European Parliament BANNING US FROM THE INTERNET.    They can't do that, come on. I know, I just keep bringing that up to make fun of how out of touch they seem to be. Haha, true. They are scarily out of touch, but to be fair, this will never actually become law - it's hardly logical or practical, and it would cause such uproar. 4est Posted at 2:42 pm on July 27, 2008 Quote: from Nikki at 12:35 pm on July 27, 2008 Quote: from 4est at 4:21 am on July 27, 2008 But I think we all agree that this is tidlywinks compared to the European Parliament BANNING US FROM THE INTERNET. They can't do that, come on. I know, I just keep bringing that up to make fun of how out of touch they seem to be. nikki Posted at 12:35 pm on July 27, 2008 Quote: from 4est at 4:21 am on July 27, 2008 But I think we all agree that this is tidlywinks compared to the European Parliament BANNING US FROM THE INTERNET. They can't do that, come on. gregorymahony Posted at 12:27 pm on July 27, 2008 Quote: from littlebigwonder at 6:09 pm on July 25, 2008 it better not happen I'm flying this weekend.. and EVERYTHING on my ipod is from Limewire.. lulz   cheapscate! FurryPanther Posted at 9:13 pm on July 26, 2008 Quote: from 4est at 9:28 pm on July 26, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:25 pm on July 26, 2008 Quote: from 4est at 9:21 pm on July 26, 2008 But I think we all agree that this is tidlywinks compared to the European Parliament BANNING US FROM THE INTERNET.    Yes. Considering it's not possible...    FP Didn't you read the OP? They're threatening. You know those europeans. They flee from everything? Wait, that's just the French. FP 4est Posted at 8:28 pm on July 26, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:25 pm on July 26, 2008 Quote: from 4est at 9:21 pm on July 26, 2008 But I think we all agree that this is tidlywinks compared to the European Parliament BANNING US FROM THE INTERNET. Yes. Considering it's not possible... FP Didn't you read the OP? They're threatening. You know those europeans. FurryPanther Posted at 8:25 pm on July 26, 2008 Quote: from 4est at 9:21 pm on July 26, 2008 But I think we all agree that this is tidlywinks compared to the European Parliament BANNING US FROM THE INTERNET. Yes. Considering it's not possible... FP 4est Posted at 8:21 pm on July 26, 2008 But I think we all agree that this is tidlywinks compared to the European Parliament BANNING US FROM THE INTERNET. FurryPanther Posted at 6:38 pm on July 26, 2008 Quote: from obvious child at 7:14 pm on July 26, 2008 So our best bet is to hide our shit.   This is bad, bad law. Yes, yes it is. FP obvious child Posted at 6:14 pm on July 26, 2008 So our best bet is to hide our shit. This is bad, bad law. FurryPanther Posted at 5:52 pm on July 26, 2008 Quote: from obvious child at 6:45 pm on July 26, 2008 How the fuck is that legal?   If we apply that standard, customs officials can just take whatever they want under the guise of copyright protection. That's my point. they can do what they want. It's technically international territory too, right on the border, so they don't really answer to their government. Or at least it doesn't seem like they do. FP obvious child Posted at 5:45 pm on July 26, 2008 How the fuck is that legal? If we apply that standard, customs officials can just take whatever they want under the guise of copyright protection. FurryPanther Posted at 5:37 pm on July 26, 2008 Quote: from obvious child at 5:34 pm on July 26, 2008 Not quite. They have to first prove you have illegal songs and content on your device. There's no way they can do that for all types of devices. I have a mp3 player that has  most people have never heard of and has a special custom USB mini plug. The sheer cost of outfitting every international border station and airport to check each device would be outstanding. Couple that with cell phones and the costs grow exponentially. There's no reasonable way that they could run searches economically much less timely.   Furthermore, if you are citizen returning to your country through a customs run by your country, that is certainly not legal to simply take your property without first searching your device. In the US, the Fourth Amendment prohibits illegal seizures. They sieze it under suspicion. They have free reign. I have a friend that crossed from Canada to the States legally to go visit some family during the summer. There was no reason for suspicion besides his demographic. His car was seized, and he was held while they literally ripped his car apart. Cut open the seats, ripped up the floor, destroyed his property, and everything on a search for drugs. There was not reason for it, and not even the dogs suggested there was, but they did it anyways. He tried to take them to court, and could do nothing. Personal suspicion is reason enough for customs officers. He had his car written off from a drug search, pretty much because they felt like it. The suspicion doesn't even need to be reasonable. FP Macropiper Posted at 5:21 pm on July 26, 2008 Sticking DRM on everything, like FP seems to be suggesting would make it impossible for any open source software to make music. I find that a very unpalatable idea. Also, what about the DRM free music sold on iTunes, I have some of that, there is no digital signature in it as far as I know. Most recent 15 of 70 previous replies displayed.