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ElephantStone
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Posted at 4:29 am on Aug. 19, 2008 |
| So I basially have these choices: 1.) Join the PSNI and transfer in 3 years to the Metropolitan police. I like the idea of earning £22k straight away. But their next recruitment phase might be March 2009 and then its 6 months till youre actually accepted, so thats already a year and a half away... plus for my own moral reasons I dont really want to 'cheat' the PSNI. 2.) Move to England, working and building up a good reputation and stuff to get into the Met, i.e. becoming a Community Support Officer, volountary work, etc. While also earning minimum wage, renting a flat and becoming independant. I dont think theres much point in pursuing a degree because it will only cost money and take up time that could be used to earn money and theres no advantage in having one with the police. Id like to have a plan made up by the end of this week. |
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nikki
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Posted at 11:25 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
| My advice would be to get a job. If you don't want to study for a degree, then don't - it's expensive and if it's not something you want to do with three years of your life, then it's not worth it. Have you considered looking for a job in a similar field to the police? There are a lot of community support jobs you could apply for, or you could always try and get some work with your local council. It would look great on a job application and it would be really worthwhile getting some sort of stable income going until you can apply for the police. It means you can at least get started with your adult life - maybe get a flat to rent with the money you earn, and start to make something of yourself by saving up some of your salary, so that you'll always have something to fall back upon if the police option takes longer than you might have expected. Good luck! |
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ElephantStone
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Posted at 6:58 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
Quote: from Periwinkle at 2:45 pm on Aug. 18, 2008
If you don't think there's an advantage to getting a degree, then I personally would guess that the best thing (short of joining the police in NI, which would probably be a really good start) would be to try and get experience in a related field or another area of interest.
Yeah I guess youre right, but my only concern with NI is that effectively I am an Irish Catholic. My surname gives that away. Secondly I dont like the accent, or the weather up there. Eventually I want to end up in the Met anyway. I genuinely dont know what to do... I guess Ill let an application out to PSNI, but I really dont want to go to Northern Ireland. At least if I worked id be near my gran and cousins in London... |
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Periwinkle
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Posted at 6:45 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
| If you don't think there's an advantage to getting a degree, then I personally would guess that the best thing (short of joining the police in NI, which would probably be a really good start) would be to try and get experience in a related field or another area of interest. |
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ElephantStone
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Posted at 6:38 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
| So basically...whats the best thing for me to do? I mean whats most likely to get me into the police force? ...the idea of getting a student loan has never appealed to me, and would be a last resort. I would much rather work full time. I can do volountary work and do that community officer thing... I could possibly join the TA. with full time employment or community officer. What should I do? Cos on the websites it said there was no advantage to going in with a degree, and degrees cost money and time... |
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deaths door14
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Posted at 6:34 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
Quote: from ElephantStone at 2:05 pm on Aug. 18, 2008
Quote: from deaths door14 at 1:56 pm on Aug. 18, 2008
where do you live now? can't you do police there :S i mean why does it have to be britain? i'm doing a degree in care community and citizenship this year and i get to work within youth offenders and such, and there are degrees to do with being in the police force you know? i'd say look it up before you say no to it because it might actually work out better for you when you try and apply as well, if you have a degree and it's in that area. 
I live in Ireland now. I was born and raised in London and I just like it better there. Its too easy to get in the police here and the majority of their work is rural. Theyre too relaxed and work on a warnings scheme, whereby they let you off for drink driving and stuff. I dont like that. Plus the pay and perks arent nearly as high. And the Brit Police are more militarily run with a good solid structure and team work and I like that. But I applied for a degree, just 1 in the UK and was unsuccessful. Its too late to apply for degrees isnt it? 
not if yo go through clearing, you need to ring up uni's and ask if they have any spaces left on thecourse you want etc. |
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Periwinkle
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Posted at 6:16 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
| http://www.ucas.com/students/afteryouapply/clearing Basically, universities want to fill up their places and so might be willing to take you with grades that are slightly lower than you would have wanted. You might not get the perfect offer, but it's likely you'll get something. |
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Spice
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Posted at 6:14 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
| Clearing means people that didn't get the grades they wanted, therefore the Unis they wanted means they can apply for something they CAN get into now. Most are open until end of August. It's frantic planning and such, but can be done. |
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ElephantStone
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Posted at 6:12 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
Quote: from Periwinkle at 2:07 pm on Aug. 18, 2008
Clearing is still going and you can still get into courses. It's not too late. Could you apply to join the army, if you like a militaristic structure? 
How does clearing work? How would I get a degree now? I want to work though I think, b/c from looking at the police I saw no advantage to going in with a degree. I know quite a few guys in the British army and I have and have had family members in the Brit army and theyre not enjoying it, none of them are. And it would break my mother's heart if I joined the british army. |
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Periwinkle
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Posted at 6:07 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
| Clearing is still going and you can still get into courses. It's not too late. Could you apply to join the army, if you like a militaristic structure? |
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ElephantStone
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Posted at 6:05 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
Quote: from deaths door14 at 1:56 pm on Aug. 18, 2008
where do you live now? can't you do police there :S i mean why does it have to be britain? i'm doing a degree in care community and citizenship this year and i get to work within youth offenders and such, and there are degrees to do with being in the police force you know? i'd say look it up before you say no to it because it might actually work out better for you when you try and apply as well, if you have a degree and it's in that area. 
I live in Ireland now. I was born and raised in London and I just like it better there. Its too easy to get in the police here and the majority of their work is rural. Theyre too relaxed and work on a warnings scheme, whereby they let you off for drink driving and stuff. I dont like that. Plus the pay and perks arent nearly as high. And the Brit Police are more militarily run with a good solid structure and team work and I like that. But I applied for a degree, just 1 in the UK and was unsuccessful. Its too late to apply for degrees isnt it? |
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Periwinkle
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Posted at 6:02 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
Quote: from ElephantStone at 1:53 pm on Aug. 18, 2008
Quote: from deaths door14 at 1:47 pm on Aug. 18, 2008
go through clearing and get a degree here?
Thing is, I dont want a degree. I want the police. But I want a bit of security while Im at a vulnerable stage with money and shit...I mean I dont know where to go first and I want to move to Britain by the end of this month cos the sooner I get my 3 years the better. But Ill be 21...21...no degree, nothing, not many experiences...I mean what if I dont get in...the strongest thing I have going for me is military experience in getting in... 
Can you become a voluntary officer or whatever they're called? You won't earn from it, but you'll gain experience that would be favourably looked upon 3 years down the line. You could also decide to study for a degree part-time (loads of places will do that) or some other qualification. You can acquire a lot of skills and/or in 3 years that will make you a very desirable applicant (you could learn another language or get a degree or work in a relevant field or get experience as a voluntary officer or whatever). Or you could apply to Northern Ireland and try and transfer in 3 years. Just 'cos you'll be 21 if/when you join isn't the end of the world. You'll still have 40 or 50 years of a career ahead of you. |
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vicky91
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Posted at 5:59 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
| sign up to lots of working agencies they will get you jobs until you can join the police |
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Periwinkle
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Posted at 5:58 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
| What is it about joining the police that attracts you? Is there another job that includes those things that you could apply for now? For example, if you want to be a detective, maybe you could look into applying for a job with a private detective agency. Have you tried going through clearing for a degree offer? A degree will stand you in good stead for other employment for the rest of your life: if you don't get a job with the police or your priorities change in the next 3 years, you'll at least have another qualification. |
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deaths door14
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Posted at 5:56 am on Aug. 18, 2008 |
Quote: from ElephantStone at 1:53 pm on Aug. 18, 2008
Quote: from deaths door14 at 1:47 pm on Aug. 18, 2008
go through clearing and get a degree here?
Thing is, I dont want a degree. I want the police. But I want a bit of security while Im at a vulnerable stage with money and shit...I mean I dont know where to go first and I want to move to Britain by the end of this month cos the sooner I get my 3 years the better. But Ill be 21...21...no degree, nothing, not many experiences...I mean what if I dont get in...the strongest thing I have going for me is military experience in getting in... 
where do you live now? can't you do police there :S i mean why does it have to be britain? i'm doing a degree in care community and citizenship this year and i get to work within youth offenders and such, and there are degrees to do with being in the police force you know? i'd say look it up before you say no to it because it might actually work out better for you when you try and apply as well, if you have a degree and it's in that area. |
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