Adding Reply Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Evolution: Invention of Satan? Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post MushroomSatsujin Posted at 5:18 pm on July 8, 2008 Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 http://youtube.com/watch?v=WSYKngn1Rng I cant tell if this is satire, or the most arrogant and ignorant Christian I have ever seen. He ranks up there with the WBC I would like some Christian/Catholic/ect views on the matter

Replies swishone Posted at 11:09 am on July 10, 2008 Wow that guy is a uninformed douche , good god what a loser TooImaginativeTeen Posted at 9:51 am on July 10, 2008 My god if evolution is satan's, then REASON and RATIONALITY is satan's. You want to bet some morons out there think reason and rationality were satan's tools to fool you all along? Soren Kierkegaard Posted at 9:40 am on July 10, 2008 Another reason how and why mass conversion or instruction fails miserably when both the teacher and audience fail to see the point of the lecture, itself. Arrogant?  Yes. Condescending?  Yes. Dry?  Very sarcastic, which tries to entertain rather than inform. Would I watch them again?  No, I'd rather waste my time doing something else. nigeltheoutlaw Posted at 6:17 pm on July 9, 2008 Wow. That is pathetic. chaosdisown Posted at 6:15 am on July 9, 2008 or you can go for a much simpler approach and not except what he is saying and move on? sorry i just wanted to feel a part of this conversation also D: Moridin Posted at 2:04 am on July 9, 2008 What an intelligent non-argument. Reason is axiomatically justified. osmoticdespair Posted at 1:05 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from Moridin at 8:47 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from osmoticdespair at 10:45 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from Moridin at 8:40 am on July 9, 2008 why should I bother listening to you if you admit that you are unreasonable? Why listen to me anyway if all you have to go on is reason and nothing else you will never get further than chasing your own tail. So you cannot answer my question? I'll accept that as your concession. Here is an analogy to your argument: Jo: Tim said that we should believe everything in Tim's book 'how to give all your money to Tim'. Moridin: But wait, it also says in that book that Tim is lying to you so that you will want to give him money and that he is laughing in your face hahaha. Jo: Either you accept that the book is true because Tim says so in the book or you accept the book is true because the book happens to admit it is all lies. Either way the book is true! HAHA Moridin. You believe Tim too. Either that or you are mad and just contradicting yourself. Moridin Posted at 12:47 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from osmoticdespair at 10:45 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from Moridin at 8:40 am on July 9, 2008 why should I bother listening to you if you admit that you are unreasonable? Why listen to me anyway if all you have to go on is reason and nothing else you will never get further than chasing your own tail. So you cannot answer my question? I'll accept that as your concession. osmoticdespair Posted at 12:45 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from Moridin at 8:40 am on July 9, 2008 why should I bother listening to you if you admit that you are unreasonable? Why listen to me anyway if all you have to go on is reason and nothing else you will never get further than chasing your own tail. Moridin Posted at 12:40 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from osmoticdespair at 10:39 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from Moridin at 8:31 am on July 9, 2008 All attacks against reason are self-refuting, since it requires that the position that it is reasonable to deny reasonableness. Pointing out self-refuting statements presupposes reason, so you are just declaring your own argument false.    Foundationalism and basic beliefs are compatible with reason. It is not reasonable to presume that reason is capable of discerning truth. Such a presumption is a perfectly valid belief, but its does not pertain to reason. So you think that you have reached a reasonable conclusion? If so, you are contradicting yourself. If not, why should I bother listening to you if you admit that you are unreasonable? osmoticdespair Posted at 12:39 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from Moridin at 8:31 am on July 9, 2008 All attacks against reason are self-refuting, since it requires that the position that it is reasonable to deny reasonableness. Pointing out self-refuting statements presupposes reason, so you are just declaring your own argument false. Foundationalism and basic beliefs are compatible with reason. It is not reasonable to presume that reason is capable of discerning truth. Such a presumption is a perfectly valid belief, but its does not pertain to reason. Clouse227 Posted at 12:37 am on July 9, 2008 This guys just fails. Moridin Posted at 12:31 am on July 9, 2008 All attacks against reason are self-refuting, since it requires that the position that it is reasonable to deny reasonableness. Pointing out self-refuting statements presupposes reason, so you are just declaring your own argument false. Foundationalism and basic beliefs are compatible with reason. osmoticdespair Posted at 12:19 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 8:11 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from osmoticdespair at 11:58 pm on July 8, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 7:39 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from Moridin at 11:21 pm on July 8, 2008 Quote: from Paradox Revealed at 7:49 am on July 9, 2008 Question everything.        Why? Why not? Busy trying to live my life? You can live life and question things. IMO I think that by just accepting what you are told is kinda stupid.   Reason is self negating. You have to accept something. Once you accept something its a matter of making everything agree with that something. Questioning everything leads to faddishness and superficiality (because you never accept anything long enough to delve deeply into its implications). MushroomSatsujin Posted at 12:11 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from osmoticdespair at 11:58 pm on July 8, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 7:39 am on July 9, 2008 Quote: from Moridin at 11:21 pm on July 8, 2008 Quote: from Paradox Revealed at 7:49 am on July 9, 2008 Question everything.     Why? Why not? Busy trying to live my life? You can live life and question things. IMO I think that by just accepting what you are told is kinda stupid.   Most recent 15 of 26 previous replies displayed.