Adding Reply Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Has anyone here ever studied islam? Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post lsd Posted at 10:04 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 if so, could you please explain what and how much you have studied and in what areas you have focused on? Have you read any biographies on the Prophet or on the early Muslims?  Have you read from the primary sources or any Hadith collections?  Have you taken classes on Islam - if so, on what exactly? What is your conclusion after studying Islam and Muhammad?  If you haven't, what do you think of Islam and Muhammad currently?

Replies sophos Posted at 7:42 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from lsd at 1:43 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 I note that you have studied Islam "extensively."  What aspect of the religion do you not find logical? Mohamed's unfounded claim of divine revelation. Thereon, everything else is simply academic. lsd Posted at 1:43 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from sophos at 4:03 am on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from lsd at 8:44 am on Aug. 18, 2008 Quote: from sophos at 12:26 am on Aug. 18, 2008 Quote: from lsd at 10:04 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 What is your conclusion after studying Islam and Muhammad? It's a fabrication propagated for his own benefits; period. And you came to this conclusion after studying Islam? Extensively, yes. fascinating. I note that you have studied Islam "extensively."  What aspect of the religion do you not find logical? sophos Posted at 4:03 am on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from lsd at 8:44 am on Aug. 18, 2008 Quote: from sophos at 12:26 am on Aug. 18, 2008 Quote: from lsd at 10:04 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 What is your conclusion after studying Islam and Muhammad? It's a fabrication propagated for his own benefits; period. And you came to this conclusion after studying Islam? Extensively, yes. lsd Posted at 11:55 am on Aug. 18, 2008 Quote: from Prince o palities at 8:56 am on Aug. 18, 2008 I've studied the historical rise of Islam in conjunction with getting my history degree.  I've also done study on the impact of early Islam on Christian history.   I read pieces of the Qu'ran out of personal curiosity in high school, but the only formal training I've had in that area was an extremely biased literature teacher who assigned sections of it almost certainly in order to disprove it.   I've not had formal (or really informal) study of Muslim theology. What was the impact of Islam on Christian history?  Have you ever heard that the areas conquered from the Byzantine empire influenced Islamic law vis-a-vis its relations to non Muslims, and the laws the Byzantine empire had regarding religious minorities were in turn left overs from pagan Rome?  So, if you're keeping up, the Islamic laws on dhimmis were actually influenced by the Byzantines and the Byzantines were actually influenced by the Pagans (the last part is kind of a "duh" statement). Hi Carie Posted at 8:57 am on Aug. 18, 2008 I have read history books on the founding of islam. I have read the Koran almost in its entirety. I have not formally studied it, but have had it presented in several history classes, and in a few other classes but very poorly. Prince o palities Posted at 8:56 am on Aug. 18, 2008 I've studied the historical rise of Islam in conjunction with getting my history degree.  I've also done study on the impact of early Islam on Christian history. I read pieces of the Qu'ran out of personal curiosity in high school, but the only formal training I've had in that area was an extremely biased literature teacher who assigned sections of it almost certainly in order to disprove it. I've not had formal (or really informal) study of Muslim theology. lsd Posted at 8:44 am on Aug. 18, 2008 Quote: from sophos at 12:26 am on Aug. 18, 2008 Quote: from lsd at 10:04 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 What is your conclusion after studying Islam and Muhammad? It's a fabrication propagated for his own benefits; period. And you came to this conclusion after studying Islam? sophos Posted at 12:26 am on Aug. 18, 2008 Quote: from lsd at 10:04 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 What is your conclusion after studying Islam and Muhammad? It's a fabrication propagated for his own benefits; period. lsd Posted at 10:16 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 Quote: from Jettie12 at 10:14 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 Quote: from lsd at 1:07 am on Aug. 18, 2008 Quote: from Jettie12 at 10:05 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 I've just looked up the difference between Sunnis and Shiites.    So what are the major differences? One follows descendants of Muhammad while the other follows whoever else.  Not a very exciting difference, so I didn't read too much into it. There are some other differences - Shia follow different Hadith collections, practice shirk lsd Posted at 10:15 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 Quote: from lotus spirit at 10:10 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 Sunnis- followed muhammed's disciples Shi'ites- followed his family's   >>>> after muhammed has died Shia follow Muhammad's disciples. Jettie12 Posted at 10:14 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 Quote: from lsd at 1:07 am on Aug. 18, 2008 Quote: from Jettie12 at 10:05 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 I've just looked up the difference between Sunnis and Shiites. So what are the major differences? One follows descendants of Muhammad while the other follows whoever else.  Not a very exciting difference, so I didn't read too much into it. lotus spirit Posted at 10:10 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 Sunnis- followed muhammed's disciples Shi'ites- followed his family's >>>> after muhammed has died lsd Posted at 10:07 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 Quote: from Jettie12 at 10:05 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 I've just looked up the difference between Sunnis and Shiites. So what are the major differences? Jettie12 Posted at 10:05 pm on Aug. 17, 2008 I've just looked up the difference between Sunnis and Shiites. All 14 previous replies displayed.