Adding Reply Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic USA refuses to accept defeat, keeps making excuses Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post scalywag66 Posted at 2:38 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Maybe I'm over analyzing this, but IMO it's more evidence of America's prideful attitude Article this article shows how some sports shouldnt count because of the judging. These sports have been around for a while in the olympics so just because USA is loosing in the gold medal standings you can take it out?? the chinese gymnast won gold yesterday because she won the tiebreaker ove a USA gymnast and the NBC announcers couldnt accept defeat they kept raving about how the tie breaker is incorrect blah blah blah. WHO CARES JUST ACCEPT DEFEAT the judges would know more about gymnastics than them so they need to respect the other gymnast because she won fairly also, why didnt they argue the micheal phelps race because it also looked like a tie between him and the othe swimmer from serbia. I bet if USA was leading in the gold medal race you wouldnt find any complaints with judging

Replies Midnight Frost Posted at 8:11 pm on Aug. 21, 2008 Well, some sports will always have subjective judging. Gymnastics, diving and the like - it's unavoidable. OodleNoodle Posted at 7:16 pm on Aug. 20, 2008 Quote: from Sins and Demons at 4:24 am on Aug. 20, 2008 All i know is that chinese girl is not 16, its just not possible. Plus who complains when they win, imagine Phelps saying being pissed hes got the most gold medals. They don't have to be 16 yet. They have to be 16 the year OF the Olympics. So they technically could be born up until 11:59 on December 31st. Also, it's competely speculative. You don't know anything. Just because she looks young doesn't mean she is. Shawn Johnson looks about 12. I know people who are 27 and 34, respectively, and they look 18 and 20. Not to mention Chelsey Memmel. Asians also tend to look younger than they are, I find. Until there's proof, don't go around spreading rumours. It's slander. kthxbye Posted at 12:52 pm on Aug. 20, 2008 Quote: from scalywag66 at 2:38 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Maybe I'm over analyzing this, but IMO it's more evidence of America's prideful attitude Article this article shows how some sports shouldnt count because of the judging. These sports have been around for a while in the olympics so just because USA is loosing in the gold medal standings you can take it out??   the chinese gymnast won gold yesterday because she won the tiebreaker ove a USA gymnast and the NBC announcers couldnt accept defeat they kept raving about how the tie breaker is incorrect blah blah blah. WHO CARES JUST ACCEPT DEFEAT the judges would know more about gymnastics than them so they need to respect the other gymnast because she won fairly also, why didnt they argue the micheal phelps race because it also looked like a tie between him and the othe swimmer from serbia. I bet if USA was leading in the gold medal race you wouldnt find any complaints with judging There were several cases where the judges clearly made mistakes (whether on purpose or accidental) in the scoring. Of course we wouldn't find any complaints if we hadn't one. That doesn't make the complaints unlegit though. Sins and Demons Posted at 4:24 am on Aug. 20, 2008 All i know is that chinese girl is not 16, its just not possible. Plus who complains when they win, imagine Phelps saying being pissed hes got the most gold medals. OodleNoodle Posted at 3:52 am on Aug. 20, 2008 I completely, 100% agree with the OP.   Now I personally, thought that Nastia should have at least tied. HOWEVER, difficulty of skills matters as well. You can be a diver and get 10.0s on an easy dive and another diver can get 7.0s on an incredible difficult dive and beat you.   THAT is why the Chinese girl won. Is because the difficulty was taken into account. If it were a case of Jamie Sale and David Pelletier in Salt Lake, where the difficulty level was higher AND the performance was flawless vs. a lower difficulty routine a fall (the Russians) that beat them, THEN it would be a serious travesty. But the Chinese girl had higher difficulty and she ended up with a higher execution score (the B score) which is why she won. If tied, the B score is used. obvious child Posted at 2:11 am on Aug. 20, 2008 Quote: from jonlester31 at 7:27 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 why are you complaining? The onlything that matters is USA is kicking ass Not really. Look at the gold differential. It's fucking huge. Furthermore, a bad call should be pointed out independent of who is winning or losing. The system designed was bad. It should have come down to a tie breaker decided by another routine, not a computer formula. hithere Posted at 8:29 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 i have no doubt that every country has coaches, athletes, fans or media that would complain if either of those things happened to their athlete. come on, this isn't the USOC complaining. regarding the gymnast who fell during vault: imo it's not necessarily the judges' fault, it's the FIG's fault for having a system that allows for that to happen without a complete uproar. obviously the landing shouldn't be everything, but i think it should be more significant than it is, if it currently allows for this to happen. jonlester31 Posted at 7:27 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from scalywag66 at 5:38 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Maybe I'm over analyzing this, but IMO it's more evidence of America's prideful attitude Article this article shows how some sports shouldnt count because of the judging. These sports have been around for a while in the olympics so just because USA is loosing in the gold medal standings you can take it out??   the chinese gymnast won gold yesterday because she won the tiebreaker ove a USA gymnast and the NBC announcers couldnt accept defeat they kept raving about how the tie breaker is incorrect blah blah blah. WHO CARES JUST ACCEPT DEFEAT the judges would know more about gymnastics than them so they need to respect the other gymnast because she won fairly also, why didnt they argue the micheal phelps race because it also looked like a tie between him and the othe swimmer from serbia. I bet if USA was leading in the gold medal race you wouldnt find any complaints with judging why are you complaining? The onlything that matters is USA is kicking ass Event Horizon Posted at 6:55 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from greatescape11 at 2:40 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Did you actually watch the gymnastics?  It was glaringly obvious that it was a judging error....?   And how exactly can you tell the difference between a race where the difference was .01 seconds?  You must have some pretty insane superpowers. X2 Both Nastia and the Chinese gymnast did exceptionally well on the uneven bars, however, the Chinese girl not only made the same small error during her routine as Nastia [which was the only visible error Nastia made] but also took a step after she landed. Watch some clips, it is blatantly obvious that in that case [and in the vault, where the chinese girl FELL on her knee's and still won] that there was judging Error [deserving of a capitol E] obvious child Posted at 6:32 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Phelp's narrow win was registered on a inanimate sensor pad. Gymnastics is inherently subjective. They should have had another routine after that.   GaelicFreak Posted at 4:16 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 There should have been a tie. The tie breaker thing is retarded. I'd say that no matter what countries tied. On a side note, Nastia kicked the Chinese girl's ass. I Am Gay For Crazi J Posted at 3:03 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 I call treason! You shall be hanged at dusk! Fool! scalywag66 Posted at 3:01 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from I Am Gay For Crazi J at 2:53 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from scalywag66 at 2:50 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from I Am Gay For Crazi J at 2:45 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Your opinion matters not. America is a great country. Yes, we have flaws, but so does every other country. We are on top of the best.   America is at the very bottom with it's treasonous past, but that's for another thread Shut your mouth, you little Nazi! Shame on you for talking down on your own country! I'm sorry!!!  I'm just speaking the truth. rokkin1 Posted at 2:54 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from I Am Gay For Crazi J at 2:49 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from what the mong at 2:47 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from I Am Gay For Crazi J at 2:45 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Your opinion matters not. America is a great country. Yes, we have flaws, but so does every other country. We are on top of the best.    damn fucking straight. Proud to be an American! Quoted for mother fuckin' truth! ^^this I Am Gay For Crazi J Posted at 2:53 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from scalywag66 at 2:50 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Quote: from I Am Gay For Crazi J at 2:45 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 Your opinion matters not. America is a great country. Yes, we have flaws, but so does every other country. We are on top of the best. America is at the very bottom with it's treasonous past, but that's for another thread Shut your mouth, you little Nazi! Shame on you for talking down on your own country! 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