my other questions is.. well because i was having trouble with that cam i was trying to use my moms old diggi cam as my web cam like i used to, its a labtec DC-505 and i use to know how to get it to work with msn but now i have no idea how i used to do it when i try and set it up on msn it doesn't show any picture and i can't send it to anyone cause it just says i canceled the invite, but it works with the software it cam with no problem anyone have any idea on how to get it to work on msn?