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Acid World
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Posted at 5:13 am on Sep. 3, 2008 |
| McCain and Palin are looking more and more like another ultra socially conservative duo. You know what my whole school got taught about sex? Nothing. We got taught that it was wrong and there was no other way to prevent STDs and pregnancy other than abstinence. I NEVER got taught about condoms. Let me reiterate. I NEVER got taught about condoms or birth control or ANYTHING other than abstinence. Thats a bullshit teaching method, and everyone in highschool and middle-school thought it was a fucking joke. Of course they all want to have sex, and when an authority figure comes up to you and instead of acting mature about a topic everyone has to deal with just blatantly ignores it and says "just don't do it" to a bunch of rebellious adolescents.... I mean whos bright policy idea is that? That rant wasn't about her pregnant daughter btw, just her policy. |
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whoisabs
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Posted at 4:41 am on Sep. 3, 2008 |
| You just might have had a point if it was Governor Palin who had gone and gotten herself pregnant by a fellow that she both was unmarried to, and had no real previous relationship with... |
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The Modern Humorist
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Posted at 3:37 am on Sep. 3, 2008 |
Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:53 pm on Sep. 1, 2008
Quote: from The Modern Humorist at 12:33 pm on Sep. 1, 2008
I'm just sick and tired of the unequal playing grounds. Everything the Democrats have done "privately", has been torn to the ground and tarnished her reputation. But when Sarah Palin has a private family issue, everyone wants to give her privacy, and not get it involved in the election? What the hell? Either private issues will be fair game for all, or they will be fair game for NONE. 
How often have these "private" issues included the children? This issue is not about anything Sarah Palin has done, it's about her 17 year old daughter. 
It is about Sarah Palin, through her daughter. I don't think anyone out there is calling Sarah Palin's daughter horrible names. The problem here is that Sarah Palin condemns everyone else's morals, and then something like this happens to her, and then, they ask for "privacy". |
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Power Girl
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Posted at 1:15 am on Sep. 3, 2008 |
| If they are both {b]consenting yes. But "gunshot marriages" are by definition not "consenting". |
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osmoticdespair
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Posted at 1:14 am on Sep. 3, 2008 |
Quote: from Power Girl at 9:11 am on Sep. 3, 2008
Quote: from osmoticdespair at 10:30 pm on Sep. 2, 2008
My parents had one. It seems to have worked, they hated each other at first but now they're getting old they realise its good not to be alone.
Of course it does work. Many marriages have started this way. It does not mean it is fair. 
Two consenting parties agreeing to a lifelong commitment to one another... what's not fair? |
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Power Girl
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Posted at 1:11 am on Sep. 3, 2008 |
Quote: from osmoticdespair at 10:30 pm on Sep. 2, 2008
My parents had one. It seems to have worked, they hated each other at first but now they're getting old they realise its good not to be alone.
Of course it does work. Many marriages have started this way. It does not mean it is fair. |
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goodman
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Posted at 11:18 pm on Sep. 2, 2008 |
| This will hit republicans. |
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osmoticdespair
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Posted at 10:30 pm on Sep. 2, 2008 |
Quote: from Power Girl at 6:27 am on Sep. 3, 2008
Good at least I know where you stand. While I am glad they are getting married, I also hope it is not another of those gunshot marriages. Those are sometimes unfair to the father as well. 
My parents had one. It seems to have worked, they hated each other at first but now they're getting old they realise its good not to be alone. |
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Power Girl
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Posted at 10:27 pm on Sep. 2, 2008 |
Good at least I know where you stand. While I am glad they are getting married, I also hope it is not another of those gunshot marriages. Those are sometimes unfair to the father as well. |
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osmoticdespair
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Posted at 10:02 pm on Sep. 2, 2008 |
Quote: from Power Girl at 5:57 am on Sep. 3, 2008
Actually this question should be more readiy addressed to a conservative: Which is really worse to you, that a teen is pregnant or that she has an abortion? 
Um. That she has an abortion. Clearly. |
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Power Girl
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Posted at 9:57 pm on Sep. 2, 2008 |
| Actually this question should be more readiy addressed to a conservative: Which is really worse to you, that a teen is pregnant or that she has an abortion? |
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osmoticdespair
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Posted at 8:40 pm on Sep. 2, 2008 |
Quote: from Power Girl at 3:21 am on Sep. 2, 2008
I believe her daughter is the living proof that abstinence -only education does not really work... 
Neither does contraceptive education if you don't actually follow the instructions. But she's marrying the father, shit, she is in no worse position than my parents and they did fine. Would you rather the girl had an abortion? |
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Power Girl
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Posted at 12:15 pm on Sep. 2, 2008 |
Quote: from whoisabs at 12:17 am on Sep. 2, 2008
I want to say that around here the question of where babies come from and what is puberty get answered in 5th grade or so.
Yet saying so and knowing so does not solve the problem of teen pregnancies. |
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runthespread
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Posted at 11:12 am on Sep. 2, 2008 |
| If it were Obama's daughter that were pregnant, imagine the controversy! Don't preach conservative values when you can't even do well for your kid. Funny how Palin doesn't want sex ed in schools and her daughter ends up fucking at a young age and has a kid. |
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jami x3
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Posted at 7:14 am on Sep. 2, 2008 |
| i just cannot believe that there is a woman out there who is so against allowing women to have rights. we'll have to see what she does & how she handles her daughters pregnancy... This is an excerpt from an email i received about Palin... & this is from the day that I heard her daughter was pregnant.
What might have been encouraging news for women was just the opposite — somehow McCain had managed to find a woman running mate even more conservative than he is on women's rights. It was heartbreaking news, especially on the heels of such an inspiring week. Right now there is so much shameless rhetoric from the Republicans about breaking the glass ceiling, especially from McCain and his running mate. What good does it do to break a glass ceiling with a woman who wants government to control women's reproductive health? That isn't the world I want for my two daughters. A day later, and I'm still having trouble expressing the depth of my anger about McCain's choice of a running mate. This shameless pandering to women — with a woman who doesn't trust other women to make their own decisions about childbearing — has really got me going. My dear friends and supporters, the stakes in this election just got unbelievably higher. More than ever before, the November 4 election is the most important vote for women's rights of my generation. And our actions in the next eight weeks — yours, mine, the Planned Parenthood Action Fund's — have never been more critical. Believe me, I don't say that lightly. It's time to get to work — and hard. If you can only do one thing, it should be to tell every woman you meet that McCain and Palin are the most anti-choice, anti-women pair imaginable. Don't stop at just telling your friends. You can bet that I'll be telling strangers in the checkout line at the grocery store, the women I see at the gym, parents at my kids' schools. Women trust other women to tell them the straight truth — and the straight truth is that McCain and Palin would take us back to a time when women had absolutely no right to decide whether or not to have a child ... zero. It's been widely reported that Palin is against abortion even in the cases of rape and incest! 
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