Adding Reply Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic How old do you think you have to be to be held accountable... Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post MixedDelight Posted at 7:05 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 For Murder? Currently it's 14 in Canada. I think by the time you're 12 you're old enough to realize that pointing a gun at someones head and pulling the trigger will most likely equal death, and, this murder,is punished.

Replies GeneCosta Posted at 10:24 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from Bud2400 at 10:18 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from GeneCosta at 10:14 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 However old whoisabs is, plus one. That should prevent most juveniles from being charged as an adult.   26 years old? For the love of Ned Stark, please tell me he's not 25.   Hold on. .... Bud2400 Posted at 10:18 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from GeneCosta at 10:14 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 However old whoisabs is, plus one. That should prevent most juveniles from being charged as an adult. 26 years old? GeneCosta Posted at 10:14 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 However old whoisabs is, plus one. That should prevent most juveniles from being charged as an adult. Mish34 Posted at 11:01 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from osmoticdespair at 9:15 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from Mish34 at 4:00 pm on Nov. 29, 2008  Maybe the government should stop spending their citizens' money on stopping non-violent crimes (like drug use or speeding) and actually put some effort into stopping crimes that have an actual victim (not just a very possibly potential one). Oh and another thing. It has been shown that visible minor crimes increase the likelyhood of people committing major crimes. When minor crime is cracked down on hard major crime rates drop. It's some psychology thing. I'm too lazy to look up the source but if you check out the literature on the topic for yourself I feel confident you'll find the same. It'd be much more efficient and effective to crack down on major crime visibly.... osmoticdespair Posted at 9:15 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from Mish34 at 4:00 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 Maybe the government should stop spending their citizens' money on stopping non-violent crimes (like drug use or speeding) and actually put some effort into stopping crimes that have an actual victim (not just a very possibly potential one). Oh and another thing. It has been shown that visible minor crimes increase the likelyhood of people committing major crimes. When minor crime is cracked down on hard major crime rates drop. It's some psychology thing. I'm too lazy to look up the source but if you check out the literature on the topic for yourself I feel confident you'll find the same. osmoticdespair Posted at 9:12 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from Mish34 at 4:00 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 I wish people would stop making excuses for teenagers. I'm a teenager... I am 22 and in the past 4 years I have matured and changed so much. There are things I would not have blinked at 3 years ago that now would horrify me. It's not so much should teenagers know that its wrong to murder, if they are well brought up they should, but if they don't is that because they have some kind of permanent problem that warrants them being kept out of society for a long time, or is it possible or even quite likely they will change their mind as they mature. I think the latter. Given that sticking them in jail where they will just learn to be a criminal through peer influence as well as be given huge impediments to living an "honest" life once they get out is not the solution. By all means punish them, but not the way you would punish an adult who is a lot more fixed in his personality. Mish34 Posted at 8:00 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from xshaix at 7:10 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 18, simply because until your brain has developed properly you are influenced by stupid things like your friends and video games and wanting to be in the gang and some guy fucking your girlfriend. Teenage years are a time of trivial disagreements being blown out of proportion. They do not equal evil peoole. I wish people would stop making excuses for teenagers. I'm a teenager, I can tell that its wrong to kill someone or beat up a passer by for no reason. The majority of British youth do not understand that and they won't unless they realise that if they break the law, they're going to Borstal. Maybe the government should stop spending their citizens' money on stopping non-violent crimes (like drug use or speeding) and actually put some effort into stopping crimes that have an actual victim (not just a very possibly potential one). jakelong Posted at 2:28 am on Nov. 26, 2008 I'd say between 14 and 16. Savior Posted at 6:05 pm on Nov. 25, 2008 Quote: from GeneCosta at 7:01 am on Nov. 25, 2008 The very act of having capital murder minimums is stupid. Even adults can be held as irresponsible while ignorant. Minimums are stupid, period. GeneCosta Posted at 7:01 am on Nov. 25, 2008 The very act of having capital murder minimums is stupid. Even adults can be held as irresponsible while ignorant. nik12 Posted at 6:59 am on Nov. 25, 2008 maybe 13 or 14 maybe even 6 years old osmoticdespair Posted at 5:35 am on Nov. 25, 2008 Quote: from xshaix at 3:10 am on Nov. 25, 2008 18, simply because until your brain has developed properly you are influenced by stupid things like your friends and video games and wanting to be in the gang and some guy fucking your girlfriend. Teenage years are a time of trivial disagreements being blown out of proportion. They do not equal evil peoole. Sort of this. At the same time I think they should be punished, because punishment is still a deterrent and a learning experience for young people. But they should have no permanent consequences that will ruin their chance for a normal life and when possible punishment should not involve sending them to an institution in which their peers will train them to be better criminals. biflexible Posted at 1:22 am on Nov. 25, 2008 I don't think there should be a set age though there should be measures to ensure politics do not come into any decisions made. allsmiles Posted at 1:16 am on Nov. 25, 2008 It's ten in Britain, but tbh I'm not happy about that. Ten year olds are not who they will be in ten years time, like a twenty year old is. They're more susceptible to rehabilitation. They're more impressionable, and incarceration/the whole legal system will scare them shitless. They'll be damaged forever. 18 is a good point at which one should be tried as an adult, and go through the adult system with the adult set of crimes. Baron Samedi Posted at 8:11 pm on Nov. 24, 2008 77. Sounds like a good cutoff to me. 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