Palestine's are stripped from many of their human rights, they have been brutally tortured, and died tragic deaths due to Israel's cruelty upon them.
The Holocaust, was based on the same cruelty. Strip the Jewish People from their rights, make them feel second citizens in their land. Thats whats happening in Palestine too. The now Israel kept taking bigger and bigger portions of the place, and putting themselves as the first to benefit, even though it belonged to Palestine.
I believe that the Holocaust that happened to the Jews, is now happening in Palestine. Yet a lot of people deny it and don't want to look at the tragedy Palestine is faced and is still facing.
It's really just a stupid attempt to divert the subject by nitpicking at some technicality of what Abs said.
Honestly, Aryan is a pretty dumb term and no one's trying to use it.
Simply put, many Israelis are primarily of European descent.
Hence why they tend to be blonde haired and blue eyed far more often than the Palestinians.
Hence why their claiming ancestral ties to the land is largely invalid compared to the Palestinians.
Its funny but that really reminds me of KR trying to prove the opposite just to claim that Jews in Germany had no claim to to be German.
So if Jews are NEITHER European NOT Semitic where the fuck do you guys think they belong? On the moon?
If they are fully European as you claim then they should belong In Germany and Nazis were 100% wrong in kicking them out.
If they are fully Semitic then they should belong in Israel and some of that region can be claimed by them (although within limits)
If they are mixed of both then they belong wherever the fuck they want and so long as they don't bother anyone (and I agree that that they are doing harm to Palestinians right now) then they belong wherever they want to live.
But you guys should stop trying to decide who other ppl are and where they should live. Like claiming Native Americans can't call themselves that even though they have been in the US before Europeans. Or mocking Latinos for calling themselves that by claiming they don't know latin even though everybody knows it is just because South American has been called latin America.
Now you guys are busy trying to define semitism and deny ppl the right to call themselves semitic even if they have some semitic origin.
I mean what give you guys the right to decide who is what anyway? Am I busy telling you guys that you are not fully Americans because you don't have full native american ancestry or not fully Europeans because your ancestors left it in the 15th or the 19th or even the 20th century?
Finally I don't know WHICH groups has MORE claim to the region in Israel/Palestine and which do not. But it seems to me that BOTH could try to simply live there without kicking each other out or resorting to terrorism or totalitarian repression. And any RACIAL claim used by EITHER group to ownership of that land is basically no better than Nazism.
I've always wondered why Europeans were, for the most part (AFAIK), really the only people who have have blond hair.
Just to let you in on a secret, when Jakelong said "aryan" he was making fun of kidd rune, who happens to be the LW white supremacist.
Is it really necessary that Jake references KR in every possible thread, even the ones KR himself doesn't even visit?
Though to be honest, if you think KR is a white supremacist, you have not a clue as to what a real white supremacist looks like.
Also, jews aren't usually associated with "blond hair; blue eyes", but instead with "brown hair; brown eyes".
Not saying they aren't. Even the majority of Germans have brown hair and brown eyes. Those two features alone aren't indicative of a separate race.
However, blonde hair and blue eyes is a feature more common among European Jews, and Europeans as a whole, than any Semitic group. And given that those two are recessive traits, it brings into question the validity of any claims of ancestry to the Semitic Hebrews who once resided in Judea / Isreal / Palestine / whatever you call it prior to the Romans scattering them about.
After all, if the majority of their ancestry is gentile and not that original Semitic, why focus on that small piece, which the greater than normal prevalence of blonde hair and blue eyes shows just how small? Especially if they're a secular, or non-practicing, Jew?
It's things like this which leads me to believe that being ethnically Jewish is more imagined than real, though made real through social constructs, just as nationalism, which includes Zionism.
Quote: from jakelong at 11:05 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Still wondering what getting pics of blonde arab even proves. It's really just a stupid attempt to divert the subject by nitpicking at some technicality of what Abs said. Obviously exceptions always exist, but exceptions don't change the rule no matter how hard you try. That jews are the true aryans? Honestly, Aryan is a pretty dumb term and no one's trying to use it. Simply put, many Israelis are primarily of European descent. Hence why they tend to be blonde haired and blue eyed far more often than the Palestinians. Hence why their claiming ancestral ties to the land is largely invalid compared to the Palestinians.
Still wondering what getting pics of blonde arab even proves.
Obviously exceptions always exist, but exceptions don't change the rule no matter how hard you try.
That jews are the true aryans?
Simply put, many Israelis are primarily of European descent. Hence why they tend to be blonde haired and blue eyed far more often than the Palestinians. Hence why their claiming ancestral ties to the land is largely invalid compared to the Palestinians.
Remember that Hitler preferred blond hair and blue eyes, something that was uncommon among jews.
Honestly ppl who try to claim that arabs can't be blonde and white are as ol as ppl who try to claim that Jews aren't white...
Quote: from carracer at 11:23 am on Dec. 31, 2008 " iran is full of persians and afghanistan is a mix of persians, turks and pakistanis " I still can't see what you are trying to prove. Are you deranged? Just like a true Zionist to not know what a Semite is.
" iran is full of persians and afghanistan is a mix of persians, turks and pakistanis " I still can't see what you are trying to prove. Are you deranged?
I still can't see what you are trying to prove.
Are you deranged?
Just like a true Zionist to not know what a Semite is.
A semite isn't a jew. It is anyone from the arab region of the world.
I do know what a semite is.
I also know that "anti-semitism" has come to mean "hatred of jews" even though a more accurate definition would be describing a hatred for people from that part of the world.
Just like you to be an ignorant ass.
Quote: from charolastra at 8:40 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 4:10 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 3:49 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 12:38 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 3:35 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 7:05 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 Quote: from xobeautifulgirlox at 9:59 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 7:57 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 The Palestinian people and the Isreali people are fighting against each other for the holy land. I don't really see it in the same light as the Holocaust. I mean, it's war. The Jewish people in the Holocaust didn't have the ability to fight back in an extreme way. Neither do the Palestine's. They can't fight back. They'd get hit or killed, or who knows what. And the Palestinians are at no fault in this. Its their own land. You are severely biased. No one deserves the holy land more than another culture. The Isrealis WON the holy land, and at the moment, they have it. The Palestinians are at fault for being unable to share the land; the same fault that every other religion and group of people who wants to own the holy land should be accused of. Are you blind? Yes, the Palestinians are fighting back with violence. They're not the wounded puppies in the situation. Both sides are to blame. I know those dirty brown people have rocks and small rockets, while the noble defenders of truth and virtue have tanks, attack helicopters, bombers, fighter jets, submarines, cruise missles, etc. It is such an even battle. They're not dirty. I have friends who support Palestinian efforts. I'm saying that Palestine isn't the "victim" here. We already know that it is the dirty brown people vs your precious white jews, despite the fact that many of them are really just white atheists that claim title to a jewish 'race' when none exists. LOL, what are you even saying? My friends are those "dirty brown people" you're referring to. They're not white. Don't assume. honey, you really missed the train on that one... No, he failed to make any valid point. I'm not going to repeat the reasons for my opinion again. He's just knit picking at irrelevant points.
Quote: from Disposition at 4:10 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 3:49 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 12:38 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 3:35 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 7:05 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 Quote: from xobeautifulgirlox at 9:59 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 7:57 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 The Palestinian people and the Isreali people are fighting against each other for the holy land. I don't really see it in the same light as the Holocaust. I mean, it's war. The Jewish people in the Holocaust didn't have the ability to fight back in an extreme way. Neither do the Palestine's. They can't fight back. They'd get hit or killed, or who knows what. And the Palestinians are at no fault in this. Its their own land. You are severely biased. No one deserves the holy land more than another culture. The Isrealis WON the holy land, and at the moment, they have it. The Palestinians are at fault for being unable to share the land; the same fault that every other religion and group of people who wants to own the holy land should be accused of. Are you blind? Yes, the Palestinians are fighting back with violence. They're not the wounded puppies in the situation. Both sides are to blame. I know those dirty brown people have rocks and small rockets, while the noble defenders of truth and virtue have tanks, attack helicopters, bombers, fighter jets, submarines, cruise missles, etc. It is such an even battle. They're not dirty. I have friends who support Palestinian efforts. I'm saying that Palestine isn't the "victim" here. We already know that it is the dirty brown people vs your precious white jews, despite the fact that many of them are really just white atheists that claim title to a jewish 'race' when none exists. LOL, what are you even saying? My friends are those "dirty brown people" you're referring to. They're not white. Don't assume. honey, you really missed the train on that one...
Quote: from whoisabs at 3:49 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 12:38 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 3:35 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 7:05 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 Quote: from xobeautifulgirlox at 9:59 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 7:57 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 The Palestinian people and the Isreali people are fighting against each other for the holy land. I don't really see it in the same light as the Holocaust. I mean, it's war. The Jewish people in the Holocaust didn't have the ability to fight back in an extreme way. Neither do the Palestine's. They can't fight back. They'd get hit or killed, or who knows what. And the Palestinians are at no fault in this. Its their own land. You are severely biased. No one deserves the holy land more than another culture. The Isrealis WON the holy land, and at the moment, they have it. The Palestinians are at fault for being unable to share the land; the same fault that every other religion and group of people who wants to own the holy land should be accused of. Are you blind? Yes, the Palestinians are fighting back with violence. They're not the wounded puppies in the situation. Both sides are to blame. I know those dirty brown people have rocks and small rockets, while the noble defenders of truth and virtue have tanks, attack helicopters, bombers, fighter jets, submarines, cruise missles, etc. It is such an even battle. They're not dirty. I have friends who support Palestinian efforts. I'm saying that Palestine isn't the "victim" here. We already know that it is the dirty brown people vs your precious white jews, despite the fact that many of them are really just white atheists that claim title to a jewish 'race' when none exists. LOL, what are you even saying? My friends are those "dirty brown people" you're referring to. They're not white. Don't assume.
Quote: from Disposition at 12:38 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 3:35 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 7:05 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 Quote: from xobeautifulgirlox at 9:59 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 7:57 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 The Palestinian people and the Isreali people are fighting against each other for the holy land. I don't really see it in the same light as the Holocaust. I mean, it's war. The Jewish people in the Holocaust didn't have the ability to fight back in an extreme way. Neither do the Palestine's. They can't fight back. They'd get hit or killed, or who knows what. And the Palestinians are at no fault in this. Its their own land. You are severely biased. No one deserves the holy land more than another culture. The Isrealis WON the holy land, and at the moment, they have it. The Palestinians are at fault for being unable to share the land; the same fault that every other religion and group of people who wants to own the holy land should be accused of. Are you blind? Yes, the Palestinians are fighting back with violence. They're not the wounded puppies in the situation. Both sides are to blame. I know those dirty brown people have rocks and small rockets, while the noble defenders of truth and virtue have tanks, attack helicopters, bombers, fighter jets, submarines, cruise missles, etc. It is such an even battle. They're not dirty. I have friends who support Palestinian efforts. I'm saying that Palestine isn't the "victim" here. We already know that it is the dirty brown people vs your precious white jews, despite the fact that many of them are really just white atheists that claim title to a jewish 'race' when none exists.
Quote: from whoisabs at 3:35 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 7:05 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 Quote: from xobeautifulgirlox at 9:59 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 7:57 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 The Palestinian people and the Isreali people are fighting against each other for the holy land. I don't really see it in the same light as the Holocaust. I mean, it's war. The Jewish people in the Holocaust didn't have the ability to fight back in an extreme way. Neither do the Palestine's. They can't fight back. They'd get hit or killed, or who knows what. And the Palestinians are at no fault in this. Its their own land. You are severely biased. No one deserves the holy land more than another culture. The Isrealis WON the holy land, and at the moment, they have it. The Palestinians are at fault for being unable to share the land; the same fault that every other religion and group of people who wants to own the holy land should be accused of. Are you blind? Yes, the Palestinians are fighting back with violence. They're not the wounded puppies in the situation. Both sides are to blame. I know those dirty brown people have rocks and small rockets, while the noble defenders of truth and virtue have tanks, attack helicopters, bombers, fighter jets, submarines, cruise missles, etc. It is such an even battle. They're not dirty. I have friends who support Palestinian efforts. I'm saying that Palestine isn't the "victim" here.
Quote: from Disposition at 7:05 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 Quote: from xobeautifulgirlox at 9:59 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 7:57 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 The Palestinian people and the Isreali people are fighting against each other for the holy land. I don't really see it in the same light as the Holocaust. I mean, it's war. The Jewish people in the Holocaust didn't have the ability to fight back in an extreme way. Neither do the Palestine's. They can't fight back. They'd get hit or killed, or who knows what. And the Palestinians are at no fault in this. Its their own land. You are severely biased. No one deserves the holy land more than another culture. The Isrealis WON the holy land, and at the moment, they have it. The Palestinians are at fault for being unable to share the land; the same fault that every other religion and group of people who wants to own the holy land should be accused of. Are you blind? Yes, the Palestinians are fighting back with violence. They're not the wounded puppies in the situation. Both sides are to blame. I know those dirty brown people have rocks and small rockets, while the noble defenders of truth and virtue have tanks, attack helicopters, bombers, fighter jets, submarines, cruise missles, etc. It is such an even battle.
Quote: from xobeautifulgirlox at 9:59 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 Quote: from Disposition at 7:57 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 The Palestinian people and the Isreali people are fighting against each other for the holy land. I don't really see it in the same light as the Holocaust. I mean, it's war. The Jewish people in the Holocaust didn't have the ability to fight back in an extreme way. Neither do the Palestine's. They can't fight back. They'd get hit or killed, or who knows what. And the Palestinians are at no fault in this. Its their own land. You are severely biased. No one deserves the holy land more than another culture. The Isrealis WON the holy land, and at the moment, they have it. The Palestinians are at fault for being unable to share the land; the same fault that every other religion and group of people who wants to own the holy land should be accused of. Are you blind? Yes, the Palestinians are fighting back with violence. They're not the wounded puppies in the situation. Both sides are to blame.
Quote: from Disposition at 7:57 pm on Dec. 23, 2008 The Palestinian people and the Isreali people are fighting against each other for the holy land. I don't really see it in the same light as the Holocaust. I mean, it's war. The Jewish people in the Holocaust didn't have the ability to fight back in an extreme way. Neither do the Palestine's. They can't fight back. They'd get hit or killed, or who knows what. And the Palestinians are at no fault in this. Its their own land.
The Palestinian people and the Isreali people are fighting against each other for the holy land. I don't really see it in the same light as the Holocaust. I mean, it's war. The Jewish people in the Holocaust didn't have the ability to fight back in an extreme way.
Neither do the Palestine's. They can't fight back. They'd get hit or killed, or who knows what. And the Palestinians are at no fault in this. Its their own land.
You are severely biased. No one deserves the holy land more than another culture. The Isrealis WON the holy land, and at the moment, they have it. The Palestinians are at fault for being unable to share the land; the same fault that every other religion and group of people who wants to own the holy land should be accused of.
Are you blind? Yes, the Palestinians are fighting back with violence. They're not the wounded puppies in the situation. Both sides are to blame.
I know those dirty brown people have rocks and small rockets, while the noble defenders of truth and virtue have tanks, attack helicopters, bombers, fighter jets, submarines, cruise missles, etc.
It is such an even battle.
They're not dirty. I have friends who support Palestinian efforts. I'm saying that Palestine isn't the "victim" here.
We already know that it is the dirty brown people vs your precious white jews, despite the fact that many of them are really just white atheists that claim title to a jewish 'race' when none exists.
LOL, what are you even saying? My friends are those "dirty brown people" you're referring to. They're not white. Don't assume.
honey, you really missed the train on that one...
No, he failed to make any valid point. I'm not going to repeat the reasons for my opinion again. He's just knit picking at irrelevant points.
Too true. He is just spitting out random bits of information. (Some of which are true and some of which are propaganda) And saying that they support his idea.
The problem is that he has failed to make a point.
here is a hint for the retards afghanistan isn't an arab nation, nor is iran iran is full of persians and afghanistan is a mix of persians, turks and pakistanis and really, canada isn't an arab nation either http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070412/strip_search_070412/20070412 most of the rest of the girls, just look at their roots
afghanistan isn't an arab nation, nor is iran
iran is full of persians and afghanistan is a mix of persians, turks and pakistanis
and really, canada isn't an arab nation either
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070412/strip_search_070412/20070412
most of the rest of the girls, just look at their roots
" iran is full of persians and afghanistan is a mix of persians, turks and pakistanis "
Quote: from carracer at 11:30 pm on Dec. 30, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 11:26 pm on Dec. 30, 2008 Love that blonde hair... Funny. You still haven't learned how to read. No one claimed that it is common for Palestinians to have blond hair. o rly? Quote: from GoloSLB at 7:55 pm on Dec. 30, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 7:50 pm on Dec. 30, 2008 Quote: from carracer at 7:35 pm on Dec. 30, 2008 A refugee camp. http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,672197,00.jpg Wait. That one is full of israelis not palestinians. Palestinians and other semitic people don't have blonde hair, unlike the girl who is front and center of that photo. thats an assumption that has been disproven over and over again.
Quote: from whoisabs at 11:26 pm on Dec. 30, 2008 Love that blonde hair... Funny. You still haven't learned how to read. No one claimed that it is common for Palestinians to have blond hair.
Love that blonde hair...
Funny.
You still haven't learned how to read.
No one claimed that it is common for Palestinians to have blond hair.
o rly?
Quote: from GoloSLB at 7:55 pm on Dec. 30, 2008
Quote: from whoisabs at 7:50 pm on Dec. 30, 2008 Quote: from carracer at 7:35 pm on Dec. 30, 2008 A refugee camp. http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,672197,00.jpg Wait. That one is full of israelis not palestinians. Palestinians and other semitic people don't have blonde hair, unlike the girl who is front and center of that photo. thats an assumption that has been disproven over and over again.
Quote: from carracer at 7:35 pm on Dec. 30, 2008 A refugee camp. http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,672197,00.jpg Wait. That one is full of israelis not palestinians. Palestinians and other semitic people don't have blonde hair, unlike the girl who is front and center of that photo.
A refugee camp. http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,672197,00.jpg Wait. That one is full of israelis not palestinians.
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,672197,00.jpg
Wait. That one is full of israelis not palestinians.
Palestinians and other semitic people don't have blonde hair, unlike the girl who is front and center of that photo.
lmao
You are making a pointless argument that has nothing to do with the situation at hand.
To you it's not even about who is right anymore.
We are just doing this because you enjoy arguing.
Oh Im sorry didn't know you wanted blonde arabic girls. Here go!
Lol Jake, are you sure you understand what an "Arab" is after posting pictures of blonde Iranian, Afghani, and Canadian women?
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