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I feel politically weird.
Whatever the case may be, I don't see Romney doing much to repeal or stop Obamacare. I even get the eerie sense that he'd have implemented Obamacare himself were he elected in 2008 instead of Obama given his suggestion that Massachusetts should be a model for the whole nation in regards to healthcare.
On the other hand, Obama slammed Hillary on her vision of healthcare... based on the "mandate" that he disagreed with... and now hails it as the greatest thing since sliced bread. And supported it and signed it into law regardless of its overall popularity.
I agree. His flip-flopping nature leaves much to the imagination when it comes to what he may or may not believe is within the power of the Federal government. He's the polar opposite of someone like Paul, or even Christy, who are pretty much ideologically set and intellectually consistent. Who knows what the hell mitt actually believes or will do given the chance.
Quote: from GmanXXVI at 1:36 pm on July 22, 2012 You mean, from the Massachusetts state legislature. Rather, I mean something he supported, poorly worded though. He does support the individual mandate, though in the last couple years he's pretended not to since that's the politically expedient position for a republican to take.
You mean, from the Massachusetts state legislature.
Rather, I mean something he supported, poorly worded though. He does support the individual mandate, though in the last couple years he's pretended not to since that's the politically expedient position for a republican to take.
RomneyCare Passage and Popularity The plan was approved by two conservative Republicans who were George W. Bush's Secretary of the Health and Human Services Department, Tommy Thompson and Mike Leavitt. Furthermore, the plan was supported overwhelmingly in the MA legislature with 198 house reps supporting the bill and only 2 voting against it - 99% voting in favor of the plan! The bill also passed through the state senate without a single dissenting vote and it was supported by nearly every special interest group in the state. (As of September 2011, 33 of the 36 Republicans in the MA legislature endorsed Romney for president further illustrating the sustained support for Romney and his tenure as Governor of MA.) Physician and New York Times bestselling author Atul Gawande wrote in The New Yorker magazine on January 26, 2009 that the plan "remains extremely popular" among the citizens of MA and that "a large majority would not want to go back to the old system." Recent polls show that 84% of MA residents are satisfied with the plan! --- What Changes Would Romney Make to RomneyCare? Governor Romney is often asked what he would change about RomneyCare, or what he would have done differently. Romney's first response is "I would re-institute my vetoes." Many voters don't realize that Romney vetoed significant portions of the bill in an attempt to control costs and unnecessary regulation. Unfortunately, all of Romney's vetoes were later overridden by the Massachusetts legislature which was 87% Democrats at the time.
The plan was approved by two conservative Republicans who were George W. Bush's Secretary of the Health and Human Services Department, Tommy Thompson and Mike Leavitt. Furthermore, the plan was supported overwhelmingly in the MA legislature with 198 house reps supporting the bill and only 2 voting against it - 99% voting in favor of the plan! The bill also passed through the state senate without a single dissenting vote and it was supported by nearly every special interest group in the state. (As of September 2011, 33 of the 36 Republicans in the MA legislature endorsed Romney for president further illustrating the sustained support for Romney and his tenure as Governor of MA.)
Physician and New York Times bestselling author Atul Gawande wrote in The New Yorker magazine on January 26, 2009 that the plan "remains extremely popular" among the citizens of MA and that "a large majority would not want to go back to the old system." Recent polls show that 84% of MA residents are satisfied with the plan!
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What Changes Would Romney Make to RomneyCare?
Governor Romney is often asked what he would change about RomneyCare, or what he would have done differently. Romney's first response is "I would re-institute my vetoes." Many voters don't realize that Romney vetoed significant portions of the bill in an attempt to control costs and unnecessary regulation. Unfortunately, all of Romney's vetoes were later overridden by the Massachusetts legislature which was 87% Democrats at the time.
Quote: from Meecro128 at 3:23 am on July 22, 2012 Quote: from Bud2400 at 1:32 pm on July 20, 2012 Quote: from Meecro128 at 7:50 am on July 20, 2012 I would vote for Stein, but there isn't any way she'd get enough votes. So I'm voting for Obama. Why should how many votes you think a candidate would receive even factor into your decision? Is this a horse race? Does your vote only somehow matter if it's for the winning candidate? Because I like Obama as well, and he has a chance to win.Voting for a minor party with a candidate that shares many opinions as Obama just pulls votes away from him, and it splits the democratic party more which is bad for both of those parties as it puts the Republican one in higher standing as it's not being split in the same way. And I do not like Romney at all, and his opinions. I think it's amusing you only measure Obama by his opinions and not his performance. When you look at his term in office, there honestly isn't much to distinguish him from Bush. Even if you factor in the withdrawal from Iraq (which isn't a true withdrawal, more like move our troops into bases we built there and leave the security of Iraq to mercenary forces, or "security contractors", we pay for), it was all done on Bush's time table. Even when you factor in Obamacare, the bulk of it came from Romney himself and what he did in Massachusetts. Fact is, Obama or Romney, it doesn't matter who you elect between the two, the result is going to amount to more or less the same thing.
Quote: from Bud2400 at 1:32 pm on July 20, 2012 Quote: from Meecro128 at 7:50 am on July 20, 2012 I would vote for Stein, but there isn't any way she'd get enough votes. So I'm voting for Obama. Why should how many votes you think a candidate would receive even factor into your decision? Is this a horse race? Does your vote only somehow matter if it's for the winning candidate? Because I like Obama as well, and he has a chance to win.Voting for a minor party with a candidate that shares many opinions as Obama just pulls votes away from him, and it splits the democratic party more which is bad for both of those parties as it puts the Republican one in higher standing as it's not being split in the same way. And I do not like Romney at all, and his opinions.
Quote: from Meecro128 at 7:50 am on July 20, 2012 I would vote for Stein, but there isn't any way she'd get enough votes. So I'm voting for Obama. Why should how many votes you think a candidate would receive even factor into your decision? Is this a horse race? Does your vote only somehow matter if it's for the winning candidate?
I would vote for Stein, but there isn't any way she'd get enough votes. So I'm voting for Obama.
Why should how many votes you think a candidate would receive even factor into your decision? Is this a horse race? Does your vote only somehow matter if it's for the winning candidate?
I think it's amusing you only measure Obama by his opinions and not his performance. When you look at his term in office, there honestly isn't much to distinguish him from Bush. Even if you factor in the withdrawal from Iraq (which isn't a true withdrawal, more like move our troops into bases we built there and leave the security of Iraq to mercenary forces, or "security contractors", we pay for), it was all done on Bush's time table. Even when you factor in Obamacare, the bulk of it came from Romney himself and what he did in Massachusetts.
Fact is, Obama or Romney, it doesn't matter who you elect between the two, the result is going to amount to more or less the same thing.
Quote: from Forever Angel at 1:39 pm on July 18, 2012 Uh, oh... "You're with Obama at least 1/3 of the time. Try putting down the kool-aid." I apparently agreed with Obama on a lot of social issues, like gay marriage and abortion.
Uh, oh... "You're with Obama at least 1/3 of the time. Try putting down the kool-aid."
Try putting down the kool-aid."
I would vote for Stein, but there isn't any way she'd get enough votes. So I'm voting for Obama. I keep forgetting to fill out my absentee ballot forms, need to do those soon. :s
Quote: from Jim Raynor at 12:21 pm on July 19, 2012 Quote: from The New World Order at 9:33 pm on July 18, 2012 Quote: from Jim Raynor at 9:17 am on July 19, 2012 who the fuck sides with Romney? Except if it takes into account he flip flops.well you would have to consider this poll is giving way too much credit to what he actually claims he will do. In reality he would be close to Obama in pretty much everything. You know, you're an awesome comedian.Aww don't agree with me? why don't you look up who Obama stole the Healthcare idea from.
Quote: from The New World Order at 9:33 pm on July 18, 2012 Quote: from Jim Raynor at 9:17 am on July 19, 2012 who the fuck sides with Romney? Except if it takes into account he flip flops.well you would have to consider this poll is giving way too much credit to what he actually claims he will do. In reality he would be close to Obama in pretty much everything. You know, you're an awesome comedian.
Quote: from Jim Raynor at 9:17 am on July 19, 2012 who the fuck sides with Romney? Except if it takes into account he flip flops.well you would have to consider this poll is giving way too much credit to what he actually claims he will do. In reality he would be close to Obama in pretty much everything.
who the fuck sides with Romney? Except if it takes into account he flip flops.
In reality he would be close to Obama in pretty much everything.
why don't you look up who Obama stole the Healthcare idea from.
I apparently agreed with Obama on a lot of social issues, like gay marriage and abortion.
you monster
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