Adding Reply Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic guys... It's possible. Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post BleedingSteelWings Posted at 10:20 am on Oct. 29, 2008 I don't know if there is one yet, there probably is and the FDA is keeping it from us... but here's the proof that it's possible. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/10/4/l_104_06.html I stumbled across it.

Replies AtomicCactus Posted at 11:45 am on Nov. 9, 2008 Oh yes.  My school (U of M) received a grant from the Gates Foundation related to this research. Anyhow, these little buggers are tricky.  I'm surprised the whole CD4/CCR5 route hasn't been the initial mode of attack.  Current anti-HIV regimens have been related to protease inhibitors (to prevent concatemeric protein cleavage characteristic of their mode of translation) and antiretrovirals, preventing reverse transcription of their RNA genomes. Despite those modes of attack, the HIV virus has evolved quite a bit to evade these countermeasures.  In fact, this virus evolves so much each HIV-infected individual's HIV genome is fairly unique, leading to an 'HIV fingerprint'. Nonetheless, despite all these findings, they'll have limited success.  Currently, gene therapy is far far far away from viability.  And when it happens, the HIV virus will mutate.  True, now both receptors are required for viral anchoring and penetration, but that might not be the case down the road. All in all, the development of therapeutics is a very difficult and money-intensive process.  It's a billion-dollar/10+ year venture just to get something onto the market. BleedingSteelWings Posted at 6:17 am on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 8:49 am on Nov. 6, 2008 Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 7:51 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Kevin Trudeau... Nuff said. Well if someone CONVICTED OF FRAUD said so... Well I wasnt aware of that. Let it go. TheOtherHorseman Posted at 4:19 am on Nov. 6, 2008 Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 7:51 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Kevin Trudeau... Nuff said. Well if someone CONVICTED OF FRAUD said so... BleedingSteelWings Posted at 4:51 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Kevin Trudeau... Nuff said. TheOtherHorseman Posted at 4:05 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 3:37 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Where shall wisdom be found indeed...   Okay someone, please lock this topic. I've had enough. Or, alternatively, it could stay open until you adequately explain and justify your paranoid delusions. BleedingSteelWings Posted at 12:37 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 Where shall wisdom be found indeed... Okay someone, please lock this topic. I've had enough. TheOtherHorseman Posted at 6:38 pm on Nov. 4, 2008 Quote: from Death7priestess at 7:12 pm on Nov. 4, 2008 I agree with bleedingsteel wings , Since you agree, you'll undoubtedly be happy to explain how a regulatory agency of the US government profits in any way from suppressing a cure for AIDS and what black sorcery they must be working in order to prevent scientists in other nations from replicating the cure and spreading it. I'll just wait over here. and btw horseman you shouldnt be a jerk just for the sake to say that someone is stupid , why dont you go do something genius and prove to the world you arent a coward who does nothing but pick on people who are smart and have ideas. Show me a smart person whose ideas I've picked on in this topic and I'll be glad to apologize. Meanwhile, feel free to cease expressing your opinions in ways that other people can notice. BleedingSteelWings Posted at 6:00 pm on Nov. 4, 2008 Quote: from The Samsoniteman at 10:25 pm on Nov. 4, 2008 Dude you said it was only an ethical battleground because of "conservative sects". I was merely pointing out that huge numbers of of very different people are slowing scientific development down, some for bad reasons and some for good. well now I understand your viewpoint and i somewhat agree. The Samsoniteman Posted at 5:55 pm on Nov. 4, 2008 Dude you said it was only an ethical battleground because of "conservative sects". I was merely pointing out that huge numbers of of very different people are slowing scientific development down, some for bad reasons and some for good. BleedingSteelWings Posted at 5:53 pm on Nov. 4, 2008 Quote: from The Samsoniteman at 10:00 pm on Nov. 4, 2008 Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 12:07 am on Nov. 5, 2008 by whom then? Huge numbers of socially liberal people are against it and similar uses of science for a number of reasons, most often because of the potential for abuse and lack of study. Just because gene therapy might help people doesn't mean we should throw caution to the wind and jump on board. This is not a simple case of "if it helps, allow it". It almost never is with medicine. I'm not sayin throw caution to the wind... I'm just saying if it has a chance try and go further. There are always risks and we should be vigilant of them and try to keep em from causing any serious harm. The Samsoniteman Posted at 5:30 pm on Nov. 4, 2008 Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 12:07 am on Nov. 5, 2008 by whom then? Huge numbers of socially liberal people are against it and similar uses of science for a number of reasons, most often because of the potential for abuse and lack of study. Just because gene therapy might help people doesn't mean we should throw caution to the wind and jump on board. This is not a simple case of "if it helps, allow it". It almost never is with medicine. Death7priestess Posted at 4:12 pm on Nov. 4, 2008 I agree with bleedingsteel wings , and btw horseman you shouldnt be a jerk just for the sake to say that someone is stupid , why dont you go do something genius and prove to the world you arent a coward who does nothing but pick on people who are smart and have ideas. BleedingSteelWings Posted at 4:07 pm on Nov. 4, 2008 Quote: from The Samsoniteman at 8:59 pm on Nov. 3, 2008 Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 6:08 pm on Nov. 3, 2008 only because of conservative sects. if it helps then do it. Gene therapy is definitely not soley opposed by conservatives. by whom then? BleedingSteelWings Posted at 4:05 pm on Nov. 4, 2008 oh for fuck's sakes... Go vote for a milf already. TheOtherHorseman Posted at 5:46 pm on Nov. 3, 2008 This topic is like a Russian nesting doll carved from solid stupidwood, and each time SteelWings posts, we see a new piece of idiocy that had been hidden within the previous bit of nonsense. I mean, seriously. Wings, just read what Samsonite said. Over and over again. Find a translator, if necessary. Most recent 15 of 23 previous replies displayed.