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hockeyguy734 Posted at 4:56 pm on Mar. 22, 2008
Whats your opinion on autism?

My opinion is that it is unnecassary

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airemaye Posted at 4:41 pm on May 14, 2008
I know a couple people with Asperger's.

They're really neat people, actually. They sometimes have trouble understanding people and they run into lots of barriers with people who don't understand them, but they try really hard.

They're both very smart. One of them helps me with my math homework sometimes, and although he's sometimes impatient with me when I don't understand an answer, he is very helpful.

Some austistic people have amazing talents. I think it's really interesting, the perception they have of the world, no one else can really understand it.

Guile Posted at 3:42 pm on May 13, 2008
I find girls who have it to be mysteriously appealing.
Wakeupcall Posted at 1:52 pm on May 13, 2008
Quote: from hockeyguy734 at 5:03 pm on Mar. 22, 2008

well most of the kids with austim or aspergers ive seen have problems socializing. I think we need to cure autism and get rid of the disease

You can't 'cure it' you dumbfuck. It's a disorder. Do some research BEFORE going to the toilet all over us.

iconoclast Posted at 9:55 am on May 13, 2008
Autism, to me, isn't a 'disease'. It's a developmental delay caused by mercury exposure, some other pollutant, or perhaps some kind of neurological discrepancy.

Autistic kids need more social contact, more contact with normality, etc, not being shunned. it's a vicious cycle....they can't socialize at the normal age, so they get shunned and they never learn, in fact they probably get worse. If they were allowed to normally socially develop without being shunned, labeled, and ignored (as well as being related to in their own way, instead of others demanding shit of them), many would likely be 'normal' later in life, it'd just take more time.

Gabriel Gray Posted at 10:01 pm on May 11, 2008
It's sad....

I mean I feel bad for people with it...

But at the same time I have an autistic cousin, and I wish I could be as happy as he is.

Coreyt Posted at 9:42 pm on May 11, 2008
I was like 8 when my mother started taking care of this lady across the street who was autistic.  twelve years later and the girls parents both died and she is living in a group home and my mom still talks to her.  She is smart and is such a sweet heart.  The way my mom puts it is she is fourty with the mind of an eight year old.  But she remembers when birthdays are and everything.  So i think when handled properly nothing is wrong with it but if it goes undiagnosed it is sad because the person doesn't get the help they need
Trikk60 Posted at 5:36 am on May 3, 2008
Unfortunately, although there are excersises designed to help with certain specifics of autistic disorder, like balance excersises for dyspraxics, and medication for things like ADD (though these are known to supress aspects of the personality and so aren't very nice), and even counselling, autistic disorders can't be cured. Sometimes counselling can help with self esteem problems that can be caused because of the disorders, and some excersises help if done at a young age (they help forge the connections in the brain that the autistic person might have wired a little differently). But unfortunately, medical science isn't  quite sure just where it is in the genes or the brain, and it's a combination of hereditary genes and background circumstances.  I agree that it's a very difficult thing to live with, but on the other hand, a lot of people affected by these disorders find that it affects them on a very base level and their personality is defined, in a way, by their disorders. so taking it away might change them, and I for one, as dyspraxic, wouldn't change who I am for the world (even if I do have trouble with things sometimes).
Dexter Ward Posted at 8:48 pm on April 14, 2008
If they want cured absolutely cure it, and if they don't want it cured then let them be, If I had a buck for every time I heard every person who wanted every case of any autism cured regardless of what the person wanted I'd be rich.

So what I'm not social o well I still wouldn't change myself to appease others who think I should be something else.

The Samsoniteman Posted at 8:38 am on April 14, 2008
Anticare said:


I've known my fair share of people with Autism and Aspergers and that itself added on to their personality. What right does it give you to change what makes them be who they are?

I was merely pointing out that just because it's "part of them" doesn't mean it shouldn't be taken away if they want.

openeyed Posted at 6:24 am on April 14, 2008
Quote: from The Samsoniteman at 1:12 pm on April 14, 2008

I'm not comparing lung cancer to autism - I'm saying that simply because something is "you" is no reason to keep it and suffer.

Some people don't suffer from autism, fair skin, different personalities, whatever. Some people do suffer from things that are "them".

We shouldn't deny help to people on the basis that parts of them are "them" and so are untouchable. The question should be whether they are suffering, and whether we can help them, not about what is "you".


Where did I say anything about denying help?

The Samsoniteman Posted at 5:12 am on April 14, 2008
I'm not comparing lung cancer to autism - I'm saying that simply because something is "you" is no reason to keep it and suffer.

Some people don't suffer from autism, fair skin, different personalities, whatever. Some people do suffer from things that are "them".

We shouldn't deny help to people on the basis that parts of them are "them" and so are untouchable. The question should be whether they are suffering, and whether we can help them, not about what is "you".

openeyed Posted at 5:00 am on April 14, 2008
Quote: from The Samsoniteman at 12:08 pm on April 14, 2008

Of course it's part of who you are. So is having freckles or lung cancer. I'm just saying that it saying "it's part of them" is no justification for keeping it.

It is a perfectly acceptable reason as unlike lung cancer, I have had my AS all my life and so no not what it is to be without it. It gives me quirks and has a large impact on how I act and how I am perceived. Take it away and I'm no longer me.

It might not be a justification for you, but it is to me. Either way lung cancer is a bad example to compare to autism.

The Samsoniteman Posted at 4:08 am on April 14, 2008
Of course it's part of who you are. So is having freckles or lung cancer. I'm just saying that it saying "it's part of them" is no justification for keeping it.
openeyed Posted at 12:13 pm on April 13, 2008
Quote: from The Samsoniteman at 6:56 pm on April 13, 2008

Quote: from Anticare at 2:13 pm on April 13, 2008

I've known my fair share of people with Autism and Aspergers and that itself added on to their personality. What right does it give you to change what makes them be who they are?

I don't buy that "it's part of who they are" bullshit. If someone is suffering from the expression of a learning disability then treating or even curing the problem is exactly the same as treating or curing schizophrenia, cancer, or anything else.


So why does that mean it can't be a part of who we are?

My AS is definitely part of what I am and I'd never say I suffer because of it. That's not bullshit; it's reality.

The Samsoniteman Posted at 11:59 am on April 13, 2008
Quote: from HarrySunderland at 7:48 pm on April 13, 2008

See most of the time when I head about curing autism I hear people wanting to cure ALL of forms from the mildest to the most severe cases, I think they should absolutely cure the low functioning autism, aka people beating their heads off of walls, being a child their whole lives.

The severity of a learning disability is irrelevant - if an individual wants treatment/a cure and if there is treatment/a cure available then they should get it.

If an individual is unable to decide then their parents/carers should make the decision for them, which should be to help them.

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