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Headst0ck Posted at 9:06 pm on Sep. 15, 2008
There's a lot of rambling going on about how white people are incapable of being "proud" they are white so I kinda wanted to share my opinion as to why that is.

It's not that you can't have white pride...it's just that there's too many negative connotations linked with it. Nobody can take away the fact that you are proud to be white unless you let them...it's not like it's a fucking tangible object. Take into consideration the fact that white pride has been associated with the Nazi movement, the KKK, and various other hate organizations in the mainstream...so when one says "White Pride" it is viewed as an act of racism. When black people say Black Power it is viewed as an act of expression that they are content with who they are when people criticize them for it and overcoming challenges faced with being black.

Now whether or not an individual means what I've mentioned here when they express their "pride" is totally up for debate...I'm simply telling you what the public (white, black, arab, asian, martian) will think when they see these words. That's just the way it is...life's unfair. Most people who bitch about not being able to have "white pride" are even bigots themselves....therefore hindering any type of change the term White Pride can have to morph into a more positive meaning. So when you go off about how white people can't have pride or their own month ya-la-la because "these niggers perpetuate double standards I wish they'd all burn in hell etc etc"...realize you're just shooting yourself in the foot.

I personally don't see why people need to have pride in their ethnicity first and foremost before having pride in their individual selves. Both concepts are ridiculous especially in this day and age.

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musicfan3 Posted at 4:00 pm on Sep. 18, 2008
White power is a bit of a big thing in Texas. Races just don't like to compete with each other. They always want to be the superior one.
Headst0ck Posted at 2:38 pm on Sep. 18, 2008
Quote: from Chava at 2:22 pm on Sep. 18, 2008

 I mean the only nations doing well are Asian and white countries on a large scale. So we're the only races with a right to be proud.


But if you think for a minute your stupid post on whites incriminating themselves by relishing in their race's accomplishments makes me racist or self-incriminating you better wipe the smirk off your face.  


Sorry but it's kind of hard not to have a smirk on my face when you and CommieCanuck both keep making my point even stronger.

So you read my post....looks like you had more of a hard time understanding it without feeling "personally" attacked. I never said people are unable to be proud that they are white, it only comes at an issue when their pride is an attack against others...which is why I just bolded your first quote. See how that can be offensive and pretty much reveals your truthful feelings on racism....not to mention its amazing amount of ignorance and arrogance. You're saying America is a white nation? Hm. Ouch. I thought it was still 2008.

As far as having white pride, or white power in the public and mainstream...that is near impossible because of the serious amount of negative feelings attached with it. Black power is viewed differently...it's kind of pointless to deny this because black pride and black power is already part of the mainstream. Hence Black History Month (which I'm sure you hate with an incredible amount of passion even though it does not attack you in the slightest).

In simple terms (I didn't want to get into this) life is unfair, and I'm quite aware of the double standards...but people like you are not helping and you being so oblivious to this is not only hilarrious but irritating.

Chava Posted at 2:22 pm on Sep. 18, 2008
Quote: from Headst0ck at 12:06 am on Sep. 16, 2008

There's a lot of rambling going on about how white people are incapable of being "proud" they are white so I kinda wanted to share my opinion as to why that is.

It's not that you can't have white pride...it's just that there's too many negative connotations linked with it. Nobody can take away the fact that you are proud to be white unless you let them...it's not like it's a fucking tangible object. Take into consideration the fact that white pride has been associated with the Nazi movement, the KKK, and various other hate organizations in the mainstream...so when one says "White Pride" it is viewed as an act of racism. When black people say Black Power it is viewed as an act of expression that they are content with who they are when people criticize them for it and overcoming challenges faced with being black.

Now whether or not an individual means what I've mentioned here when they express their "pride" is totally up for debate...I'm simply telling you what the public (white, black, arab, asian, martian) will think when they see these words. That's just the way it is...life's unfair. Most people who bitch about not being able to have "white pride" are even bigots themselves....therefore hindering any type of change the term White Pride can have to morph into a more positive meaning. So when you go off about how white people can't have pride or their own month ya-la-la because "these niggers perpetuate double standards I wish they'd all burn in hell etc etc"...realize you're just shooting yourself in the foot.

I personally don't see why people need to have pride in their ethnicity first and foremost before having pride in their individual selves. Both concepts are ridiculous especially in this day and age.


You mean this post? Yep and guess what? Still disagree. Sorry but there can be white pride. I mean the only nations doing well are Asian and white countries on a large scale. So we're the only races with a right to be proud. Sorry but I'm not bending over backwards to appease the black population anymore than everyone is bending over backwards for the Native Americans that we slaughtered in excess. I mean since when did a country grant amnesty, land, and rights to people who were once slaves to the extent that we have? It hasn't happened anywhere but here. In most countries slaves were lucky to be granted freedom none of the reverse racism shit that goes on here. And no I'm not racist. I don't mind blacks, hispanics, asians or whatnot. My son is half El Salvadorean for godsakes. But if you think for a minute your stupid post on whites incriminating themselves by relishing in their race's accomplishments makes me racist or self-incriminating you better wipe the smirk off your face. Because I'm white and I'm proud to be white. I have the most beautiful features I believe someone could have. Blue eyes and blonde hair. I'm also proud to be Jewish. I'm proud my son is half hispanic. If you have a problem with that then tuff luck.

Headst0ck Posted at 2:15 pm on Sep. 18, 2008
Quote: from Chava at 2:13 pm on Sep. 18, 2008

I couldn't agree less. It is a double standard. I mean what was good about Malcolm X. He started riots and had a very violent way of expressing his views to the whites. If you want to quote something "good" for blacks try MLK jr. Because "Black Power" or "Black Pride" is the same racist bullshit as "White Power" or "White Pride". Either allow them both or don't allow it. Either way letting one go above the other is racist.

You obviously didn't read the post.

Chava Posted at 2:13 pm on Sep. 18, 2008
I couldn't agree less. It is a double standard. I mean what  was good about Malcolm X. He started riots and had a very violent way of expressing his views to the whites. If you want to quote something "good" for blacks try MLK jr. Because "Black Power" or "Black Pride" is the same racist bullshit as "White Power" or "White Pride". Either allow them both or don't allow it. Either way letting one go above the other is racist.
SpRiNgS Posted at 1:21 pm on Sep. 18, 2008
Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 3:44 am on Sep. 18, 2008

It's like watching two diseased animals snap at eachother.
my money is on the younger one

the alpha has lost control and touch

TheOtherHorseman Posted at 3:44 am on Sep. 18, 2008
It's like watching two diseased animals snap at eachother.
CommieCanuck Posted at 3:18 am on Sep. 18, 2008
Quote: from kidd rune at 9:14 pm on Sep. 17, 2008

Quote: from CommieCanuck at 5:19 am on Sep. 17, 2008

Taking into consideration the accomplishments of the white race (an exclusive term pertinent solely to those of Northern European origin), they have the right not only to be proud of their identity, but to elevate themselves above other peoples who have been far less productive.
ONLY Nordic people contributed? Now, I can see that they contributed a lot, maybe the most, but the ONLY?

You're mixing it up a bit. Nordish people are famous particularly for being natural-born leaders, but a lot of Meds and Alpines have been doing stuff too.


There are Alpinid-type Germanics, but if you're speaking in terms of groups such as the Slavs and Magyars, you're grossly mistaken. Both are Mongoloid Eurasian hybrid races, and they have provided countless examples of their incompatible nature with proper Europeans.

Mediterraneans descend, in large part, from Moorish and Negroid migrants, and thus I'll refrain from a more detailed explanation as to why they're excluded from the European realm.

jakelong Posted at 6:23 pm on Sep. 17, 2008
Oh yeah talk to CommieCanuck about how much slavs contribute to the world.
kidd rune Posted at 6:14 pm on Sep. 17, 2008
Quote: from CommieCanuck at 5:19 am on Sep. 17, 2008

Taking into consideration the accomplishments of the white race (an exclusive term pertinent solely to those of Northern European origin), they have the right not only to be proud of their identity, but to elevate themselves above other peoples who have been far less productive.
ONLY Nordic people contributed? Now, I can see that they contributed a lot, maybe the most, but the ONLY?

You're mixing it up a bit. Nordish people are famous particularly for being natural-born leaders, but a lot of Meds and Alpines have been doing stuff too.

jakelong Posted at 5:18 pm on Sep. 17, 2008
Quote: from Headst0ck at 11:35 am on Sep. 17, 2008

 Benjamin Franklin was white and so are you....that does not make you an incarnate of him. Of course only the positive contributions are given credit but I'm sure many of you would howl "I did nothing" if someone were to personally blame you for slavery or the murder of jewish civilians.
QF so much T
Headst0ck Posted at 11:35 am on Sep. 17, 2008
Quote: from CommieCanuck at 5:19 am on Sep. 17, 2008

Taking into consideration the accomplishments of the white race (an exclusive term pertinent solely to those of Northern European origin), they have the right not only to be proud of their identity, but to elevate themselves above other peoples who have been far less productive.

A person of white northern european ancestry who eats, shits, and pisses for a living has the right to elevate themselves over the mexican who works a physically stressful job at ridiculous hours to provide for himself and his family? Which is more productive?


Everyone is aware of what these persons who happened to be white have contributed to society, but the individuals not responsible don't deserve a slap on the ass. Benjamin Franklin was white and so are you....that does not make you an incarnate of him. Of course only the positive contributions are given credit but I'm sure many of you would howl "I did nothing" if someone were to personally blame you for slavery or the murder of jewish civilians.

You're dealing in absolutes that are both ridiculous and hypocritical. Now go forth and continue to create a negative spin on white pride.....you must want to keep it that way.

CommieCanuck Posted at 5:19 am on Sep. 17, 2008
Taking into consideration the accomplishments of the white race (an exclusive term pertinent solely to those of Northern European origin), they have the right not only to be proud of their identity, but to elevate themselves above other peoples who have been far less productive.
kidd rune Posted at 6:27 pm on Sep. 16, 2008

Same stupid shit. Different words.
No, it isn't.



do you support black pride then?
I don't care if anyone is proud of their race.

Didn't read your quotes, will tomorrow, I have to go :(

Headst0ck Posted at 6:26 pm on Sep. 16, 2008
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