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Light Assassin Posted at 9:16 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
so nigger =/= nigga, right?

what is nigger?

what is nigga?

why is it ok for just black people to say either?

isn't that like being racist to yourselves?

how mad will you get if a white person says it like a black person would?

as an insult?

it makes me feel uncomfortable when black people say it, because I feel like suddenly blacks and whites are different people now. when really we're no different. it's like blacks segregating themselves.

discuss.

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jakelong Posted at 4:43 pm on Sep. 24, 2008

Negro is a term referring to people of Black African ancestry. Prior to the shift in the lexicon of American and worldwide classification of race and ethnicity in the late 1960s, the appellation was accepted as a normal neutral formal term both by those of Black African descent as well as non-African blacks. Now it is often considered an ethnic slur although the term is considered archaic and is not common as a racist slur.


The related word Negroid was used by 19th and 20th century racial anthropologists. The suffix -oid means "similar to" and is meant to designate a wider or more generalized category than the original word.

This is the 21st century in case people forget.

kidd rune Posted at 4:29 pm on Sep. 24, 2008
Quote: from aryaneva at 9:20 pm on Sep. 23, 2008

im pretty sure NIGGER comes from the NIGER, the country, like NIGERIA too.

Like how the word Ethoipe was used, to imply Ethiopia


It came from the term "Negro" which was, of course, used to describe Negroes. Then, the word "Negroid" came into play and is used to describe the race of Negroes.
jakelong Posted at 3:52 pm on Sep. 24, 2008
Quote: from whoisabs at 9:18 pm on Sep. 23, 2008

niggas just be whiny bitches bout the word nigger
Its the other way around. Get it right bitch.
babygurl 2008 Posted at 2:51 pm on Sep. 24, 2008
Why are you using the word Nigger so damn much, why does it matter so much?, why are you so desperate on saying it?.......OMG shut up, tired of them dumb ass post, you see them post every single day, If yall wanna say it, say it, gosh so fucking annoying.
Keltic Fighter Posted at 1:29 pm on Sep. 24, 2008
Quote: from noahjk at 12:16 am on Sep. 24, 2008

it makes me feel uncomfortable when black people say it, because I feel like suddenly blacks and whites are different people now. when really we're no different. it's like blacks segregating themselves.  

discuss.



Yes, we are different.
Light Assassin Posted at 9:35 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
Quote: from snowfish at 9:33 pm on Sep. 23, 2008

Quote: from noahjk at 12:27 am on Sep. 24, 2008 "our" society is actually comprised of millions of independently operated minds, all with different opinions.  

Wrong. We live in an age of mass culture where we are told that we think differently and act differently but at the end of the day have no agency to make change, or much less, unless we are straight and white and male and upper class. And then why would change need to happen? You are ignoring the issue of power. Who gets it, how power works in systems. Try starting with some Foucault on this one, although read it with a grain of salt. Then try some Adorno on the dialectics of enlightenment and some Benjamin on history and mass culture. Move on to some Zinn maybe, and if you're really just lazy please read some articles online at least of White Privilege and what it means. Colorblindness is just a part of white people not wanting to face their own implication in racism and instead pretending it doesn't exist. Check yourself.


i'll let you win just cause you have sources and i'm tired as shit. i myself don't feel that way, and i was talking more of a personal level than society's interpretation of said blackness.
snowfish Posted at 9:33 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
Quote: from noahjk at 12:27 am on Sep. 24, 2008 "our" society is actually comprised of millions of independently operated minds, all with different opinions.

Wrong. We live in an age of mass culture where we are told that we think differently and act differently but at the end of the day have no agency to make change, or much less, unless we are straight and white and male and upper class. And then why would change need to happen? You are ignoring the issue of power. Who gets it, how power works in systems. Try starting with some Foucault on this one, although read it with a grain of salt. Then try some Adorno on the dialectics of enlightenment and some Benjamin on history and mass culture. Move on to some Zinn maybe, and if you're really just lazy please read some articles online at least of White Privilege and what it means. Colorblindness is just a part of white people not wanting to face their own implication in racism and instead pretending it doesn't exist. Check yourself.

I heart nubs Posted at 9:29 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
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Light Assassin Posted at 9:27 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
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Light Assassin Posted at 9:27 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
Quote: from snowfish at 9:24 pm on Sep. 23, 2008

Quote: from noahjk at 12:21 am on Sep. 24, 2008

Quote: from snowfish at 9:19 pm on Sep. 23, 2008

no, it makes you AWARE that blacks and whites are different people  in that they have been treated differently by society for the last 500 years and continue to be treated separately today. There's nothing sudden about it, only the fact that you have to check the comfort you get to feel every day being part of the majority and feeling that pretty much every space is your space to be safe.
well that's racist.  

 black people and white people are exactly the same. the only thing different about us is the amount of melanin in our skin. and this mysterious "extra leg muscle".


kindly go educate yourself about some U.S. history and its implications that we all live in today. Try some critical race theory. Race is a social construct, but that doesn't mean it has no practical, oppressive, integral role in "our" society that everyone is implicated in.


"our" society is actually comprised of millions of independently operated minds, all with different opinions. so we do not "all" live in the mindset that blacks are different than whites. only you.
I heart nubs Posted at 9:26 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
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Light Assassin Posted at 9:25 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
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snowfish Posted at 9:24 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
Quote: from noahjk at 12:21 am on Sep. 24, 2008

Quote: from snowfish at 9:19 pm on Sep. 23, 2008

no, it makes you AWARE that blacks and whites are different people  in that they have been treated differently by society for the last 500 years and continue to be treated separately today. There's nothing sudden about it, only the fact that you have to check the comfort you get to feel every day being part of the majority and feeling that pretty much every space is your space to be safe.
well that's racist.

black people and white people are exactly the same. the only thing different about us is the amount of melanin in our skin. and this mysterious "extra leg muscle".


kindly go educate yourself about some U.S. history and its implications that we all live in today. Try some critical race theory. Race is a social construct, but that doesn't mean it has no practical, oppressive, integral role in "our" society that everyone is implicated in.

Light Assassin Posted at 9:24 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
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SpRiNgS Posted at 9:24 pm on Sep. 23, 2008
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