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JordiRoz Posted at 2:13 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
My friend and I are both formula 1 racing fans.

I am white. He is black. Never had anything wrong before.

Hamilton won the formula one title.

If anyone watched it, there are debates going on about it, but basically Glock let Hamilton pass him far too easily.

Fair enough - he's on dry tires - but when it's deciding the world title =/

Anyway, I said I felt sorry for Massa who should have won, and that Hamilton was flukey to have won it.

My friend then got very angry with me, and started going on about how he was the first black winner.

That is one of the things that really bugs me. People of other races want equality, but make a big deal of it if a black person wins.

Instead of it being a young British driver who wons. It's a black driver.

In my eyes, it doesn't matter what colour someone's skin is - I judge people on other things. In this case, racing ability.

He accused me of being racist, because I said it didn't matter that Lewis Hamilton was black.

Help?

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jakelong Posted at 7:55 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
you're not being racist. Ppl start over reacting. Just let it go say congrats to your buddy and then let it go. There'll be other races.

And welcome to the board man!    

LoveKay Posted at 6:33 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
In my opinion, you aren't being racist. And I don't think he is either. Alot of people argue as to why black people still say things like that this is the first black person to do this or that, etc. However, I think they have the right to think and say so because equality hasn't been a part of the U.S. for that long, and they perhaps feel proud of their race and the fact that equality has let it happen.
babygurl 2008 Posted at 3:04 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
I don't know how he would call you racist cause thats not even close to being racist. Then again it depends how you said it and also its a matter of are you telling us exactly what happen, for him to say something like that.
JordiRoz Posted at 2:41 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
yeah, I suppose there are many, many more uneducated voters who just vote for tradition's sake. So it is unfair to say it's just that way for Obama.

And for every person who voteds for Obama because of his colour, there'll be another who won't because if hos race.

lol :P it's ok wolverineh8ter.

btw, these forums are cool - never been on a teen chatroom before today :O Managed to pass as an adult on a normal one, but got bored. Usually just stick to msn

wOlF Posted at 2:31 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
Quote: from sLyDeWaIzE at 5:24 pm on Nov. 5, 2008

Quote: from wolverineh8ter at 5:18 pm on Nov. 5, 2008

It's all a matter of perception. For example, in the United States election, we just elected a minority for president. In of itself, he wasn't elected because of his race. But at the same time it shows something that society has moved beyond prejudice enough to allow itself to be lead by a man of color.

This may well be along the same lines, though granted on a lesser scale. I would by no means call you a racist. It's just a matter of perception on the issue.


 

As much as i hate to say it.....i think race played a big part....it pisses me off but there were way too many uninformed blacks that voted for Obama not out of agreement with his policies but because of his race  


I can throw out subjective phrases as well. I can say that uneducated biblebelt southerners voted for McCain without critically thinking of the ideas behind policies, etc and just because they think "Christian I can argue that the sons of rich men voted for McCain because the family always votes republican.

It doesn't matter who votes uneducated, it doesn't even matter IF you vote uneducated. Is it stupid? Of course. Is it allowed? Of course, it's your own vote.

eghh... Sorry for the Derail,  JordiRoz....  

JordiRoz Posted at 2:29 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
Quote: from kidd rune at 2:20 pm on Nov. 5, 2008

Negroes tend to overreact to racism when, in many cases, they are more racially aware than Whites.

It does annoy me when they want to be equal, so I treat them so and then they're the ones making the big deal.

EDIT: wow, just read that and it sounded really racist. I think you understand what I mean though
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Yeah, it sorta made it a landslide victory rather than a close encounter.

I saw some contradictions of that though on the news last night, when I saw a town which Obama lived in, and there was a black guy there voting for McCain

sLyDeWaIzE Posted at 2:28 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
Quote: from kidd rune at 5:20 pm on Nov. 5, 2008

Negroes tend to overreact to racism when, in many cases, they are more racially aware than Whites.

first of all, we stopped using the word "negro" in the fifties/sixties.....second of all, being of bi-racial decent i am fully aware of the racial boundaries i face. If you talk to anyone who is not white, they can probably tell you that they have probably encountered multiple occasions when they were treated differently just because they weren't white. While i think this is something all races experience in different ways, i would agree that blacks tend to dwell more on it. However, because whites usually aren't exposed to the aforementioned discrimination, they tend not to notice when it happens

sLyDeWaIzE Posted at 2:24 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
Quote: from wolverineh8ter at 5:18 pm on Nov. 5, 2008

It's all a matter of perception. For example, in the United States election, we just elected a minority for president. In of itself, he wasn't elected because of his race. But at the same time it shows something that society has moved beyond prejudice enough to allow itself to be lead by a man of color.

This may well be along the same lines, though granted on a lesser scale. I would by no means call you a racist. It's just a matter of perception on the issue.


As much as i hate to say it.....i think race played a big part....it pisses me off but there were way too many uninformed blacks that voted for Obama not out of agreement with his policies but because of his race

JordiRoz Posted at 2:23 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
Thanks :)

Yeah, Glock's last lap was 18 seconds slower than the previous. Even with dry tires, the rain wasn't that hard =/

Yeah, he was saying about the American Election as well, but I didn't make a comment to avoid another issue.

=/ I dunno who I would've voted for if I lived in America. Obama stood for a new change in America, which was interesting, but you never know if it's good or bad. I thought McCain would have been better, tbh, and it seemed in the news that everyone was jumping on the Obama train because of the difference he could cause

kidd rune Posted at 2:20 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
Negroes tend to overreact to racism when, in many cases, they are more racially aware than Whites.
wOlF Posted at 2:18 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
It's all a matter of perception.  For example, in the United States election, we just elected a minority for president.  In of itself, he wasn't elected because of his race.  But at the same time it shows something that society has moved beyond prejudice enough to allow itself to be lead by a man of color.

This may well be along the same lines, though granted on a lesser scale.  I would by no means call you a racist.  It's just a matter of perception on the issue.  

sLyDeWaIzE Posted at 2:17 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
to be completely honest.....im half black, half white...and it royally pisses me off when people do that...i dont consider myself to be racist, i just think that ignorance leads people to say dumb things like "he's the first black winner" oh well..........im right there with ya tho...i missed the shifty pass on glock cuz i looked away from the screen, but i saw massas dad cheering and all of the sudden he just stopped and i knew something happened
californication Posted at 2:16 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
You're not being racist.
Autumnal Posted at 2:15 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
Your not being racist.
You can support someone whitout being racist.
JordiRoz Posted at 2:14 pm on Nov. 5, 2008
I know that :P It's just how he was going about him being the first black driver who won it, and it got me stressed out
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