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Ex: A journalist says referring to the OJ case " I know people like this, they kill and then go have some chicken at KFC.
Commenter 1: OMG that was so prejudice! Commenter 2: He wasn't being prejudice, I like KFC too, you just think everything is racist.
I mean come on now, it was obviously clear that the person was stereotyping that all black people like KFC. You don't need eyes to see that. Though people feel that to make their race look more innocent, they need to deny that what that person said was wrong.
It backfires anyways because if your defending someone who made a racist statement, it only makes me think less of you. It's better to disagree with what that person is saying despite the fact that he could be the same race as you, rather than pretend it wasn't racist. I notice this a lot. I mean if someone of my race made a racist statement, I would be like " Hay that was wrong, you need to chill."
I wouldn't be defending that person.
Agreed, I also hate when people act new to old stereotypes like black people like chicken. It annoys me greatly.
Exactly, that is one of the oldest and most common. And people still act like "This is the first time I have heard of it" which is why when you say "I find that offensive" they go
"Your just one of those people that find everything racist"
Quote: from Moonscar at 11:18 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 What? The "black people like KFC" stereotype is one of the most common besides the stereotype of us liking chicken in general. I find that people who don't know that fail. And I like box chicken from the store better. Yes I have a response to that: Um, what? Right now it looks like you're just looking for something to offend you. And why are you still insulting me? I told you I agreed with you but the example you used had too much fail in it.
What? The "black people like KFC" stereotype is one of the most common besides the stereotype of us liking chicken in general. I find that people who don't know that fail. And I like box chicken from the store better.
Yes I have a response to that: Um, what?
Right now it looks like you're just looking for something to offend you.
And why are you still insulting me? I told you I agreed with you but the example you used had too much fail in it.
I'm not looking for things to offend me. I just have been told that I like KFC because I'm black so many times. And it's so easy for someone to say 'You just want to be offended" if they haven't been exposed to that stereotype. I don't go looking for people who say someone whose black likes KFC.
But you probably wouldn't find it offensive because it has never been said to you or people you know.
"Go eat your fried chicken and shutup" "go get your bucket of KFC" etc......
Quote: from Moonscar at 1:19 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Are you saying you disagree? I'm wondering how in the world KFC has anything to do with race. I mean come one, it's KFC! It's like the best fast-food joint in the whole world! I agree with you 100% but the example you used was filled with soo much fail factor it was just sad. sorry.
Are you saying you disagree?
I'm wondering how in the world KFC has anything to do with race. I mean come one, it's KFC! It's like the best fast-food joint in the whole world!
I agree with you 100% but the example you used was filled with soo much fail factor it was just sad. sorry.
Quote: from Moonscar at 10:22 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 I mean come on now, it was obviously clear that the person was stereotyping that all black people like KFC. You don't need eyes to see that.
I mean come on now, it was obviously clear that the person was stereotyping that all black people like KFC. You don't need eyes to see that.
Really? So why do you whine about not being to put a picture of a Koan member in your office?
I probably wouldn't put one on my wall regardless.
having said that I dislike people who cannot admit that they said something racist. I may not like racists but I appreciate at least when someone admits their views, after that point they have the option to change if they dont, not my intial problem, wait till they screw up and piss off the wrong person and then they will get what is coming to them.
It's a free country and I think that if you don't like it leave.
I know I agree with you.
1. Come up with a better example. There is no point coming up with a flawed explaination and then telling someone it is flawed, just dont use it. 2.I wasnt stereotyping you as someone who calls people racist just referring to what you said in an earlier statement about people speaking out to cover things up, or did we make an agreement not to go back and use past info in the present? 3.As for me not finding something racist because I dont come from a certain race, idk about that. I get upset everytime someone calls me a nigger, pollock, spic or heck everytime i'm accused of putting a shinny curse on someone. And Stereotypes are made against white people two, and I could say I just shrug them off and other people should too but that would be insensitive because just because I can deal with a verbal attack doesnt mean everyone can. Surely everyone has a different level of tolerance. Additionally, do people often tell you that you must frequent the KFC? is that how you caught this? Do people mistake you for a lover of "fine cuisine" and look down on you for it? I'm actually not being snippy in that line of questioning, just curious because the vast amount of people i've seen with travelling i've had to do, has been a crap load of caucasians eating KFC and not as many african americans. Meaning other he and you live in a place i havent been to which has a lot of Black KFC fanatics or he believes black people love the Cournals 11 herbs and spices for some reason I will prolly never know about. Honesty racism is a horrible thing, I hate it, I have heard a lot of racist terms for people of all races, and not just names but stereotypes, honestly havent heard of black people being all that crazy for KFC. It's my opinion that your argument about people being more adept at noticing racist remarks because they have heard them before is true. What people find offensive however is up to them, I know plenty of black people who could care less about being called nigger or whatever else, they care more about things like assault, or battery...theft, etc. Besides that you're good. finishing up...People should not apologize for things that they didnt say. If I tell someone I love to eat meat and they are a vegan, i'm not shitting on their way of life, my statement was merely that a proclamation of my love for meat, not my clever way of saying go suck tofu or whatever it is people who hate vegans say. People try to be politically correct too often, you are almost always going to piss someone off, doesnt mean you stop to think every second of everyday about what you are going to do and say with the upmost scrutinty...If you screw up, then you say you are sorry, but You do not sit there and wait for someone to get mad and then if no one does sigh in relief and continue about your business. I'm not sure this is a real example of outrage at the percieved use of racism or an overexaggeration but regardless I really do need explanation to wrap up how what he said was racist? I mean all of what is being said by you speaks to me like you are morally outraged by what was said :S SO either you saw what he said as being racist and want to explain to me how it was so I can join you in your outrage or it is an overeaction to something that might not have even need to have been reacted to. I'm just looking for why it was racist. Explain it to me, for all you know you could be more vanilla than me, I could have experienced thousands if not more cases where I was the victim of racism, but I want to understand what it is about what he said that set you off? oh and just in case you were wondering why I was gone soo long, or left cause I took a long time or whatever, I was watching house, which I couldnt pause, figured you could wait a half hour or so.
2.I wasnt stereotyping you as someone who calls people racist just referring to what you said in an earlier statement about people speaking out to cover things up, or did we make an agreement not to go back and use past info in the present?
3.As for me not finding something racist because I dont come from a certain race, idk about that. I get upset everytime someone calls me a nigger, pollock, spic or heck everytime i'm accused of putting a shinny curse on someone. And Stereotypes are made against white people two, and I could say I just shrug them off and other people should too but that would be insensitive because just because I can deal with a verbal attack doesnt mean everyone can. Surely everyone has a different level of tolerance.
Additionally, do people often tell you that you must frequent the KFC? is that how you caught this? Do people mistake you for a lover of "fine cuisine" and look down on you for it? I'm actually not being snippy in that line of questioning, just curious because the vast amount of people i've seen with travelling i've had to do, has been a crap load of caucasians eating KFC and not as many african americans. Meaning other he and you live in a place i havent been to which has a lot of Black KFC fanatics or he believes black people love the Cournals 11 herbs and spices for some reason I will prolly never know about. Honesty racism is a horrible thing, I hate it, I have heard a lot of racist terms for people of all races, and not just names but stereotypes, honestly havent heard of black people being all that crazy for KFC.
It's my opinion that your argument about people being more adept at noticing racist remarks because they have heard them before is true. What people find offensive however is up to them, I know plenty of black people who could care less about being called nigger or whatever else, they care more about things like assault, or battery...theft, etc.
Besides that you're good.
finishing up...People should not apologize for things that they didnt say. If I tell someone I love to eat meat and they are a vegan, i'm not shitting on their way of life, my statement was merely that a proclamation of my love for meat, not my clever way of saying go suck tofu or whatever it is people who hate vegans say. People try to be politically correct too often, you are almost always going to piss someone off, doesnt mean you stop to think every second of everyday about what you are going to do and say with the upmost scrutinty...If you screw up, then you say you are sorry, but You do not sit there and wait for someone to get mad and then if no one does sigh in relief and continue about your business.
I'm not sure this is a real example of outrage at the percieved use of racism or an overexaggeration but regardless I really do need explanation to wrap up how what he said was racist? I mean all of what is being said by you speaks to me like you are morally outraged by what was said :S
SO either you saw what he said as being racist and want to explain to me how it was so I can join you in your outrage or it is an overeaction to something that might not have even need to have been reacted to. I'm just looking for why it was racist. Explain it to me, for all you know you could be more vanilla than me, I could have experienced thousands if not more cases where I was the victim of racism, but I want to understand what it is about what he said that set you off?
oh and just in case you were wondering why I was gone soo long, or left cause I took a long time or whatever, I was watching house, which I couldnt pause, figured you could wait a half hour or so.
1. If your not sure that "this is a real example of outrage" then why bother trying to use something your not sure about? Sorry, I just like catching some hypocrisy in things. Not trying to Dis xD
Exactly, you haven't heard the KFC stereotype. My point again is that you can't determine if that isn't offensive to another race just because it hasn't been brought to you. My point still stands. Besides you are not the example of this. There are many people of different races, who are ignorant to these stereotypes because they have never heard them before, which makes them think they can tell someone else that it wasn't offensive and that they should stop whining. If they would have just said that they didn't find it offensive, oh well, it's not like they would or that it's their fault that they don't find it offensive. But when you try to tell someone else what could be offensive to them, not even knowing knowledge of the common stereotype, that is wrong.
Your vegan example by the way is very different. Of course there is nothing wrong with saying someone likes meat. It's an opinion. Though if there was a common stereotype that "all vegans eat mold off the ground" that could be offensive. I mean even if it was a joke, people can take offense to it which is why public apologies are given. Now if someone was drunk and said something really racist on TV during a speech or something, shouldn't they have to apologize still even if they didn't mean what they said? That's just my question. Cause usually that is the curious thing to do when you say offensive things.
Also yes, I have been told to go eat some KFC and shut up because I was debating with someone about race. The thing is, yes I do eat KFC but we barley get it and when we do, I mostly eat the mash potatoes and the biscuits. The KFC stereotype has got to be the most popular to use on black people.
So of course people who have knowledge of the stereotype who aren't that race would probably catch it. But if you are one of those people who don't know(which happens in a lot of cases) then that doesn't mean you should think those people are overreacting if you haven't experienced it yourself.
I mean who really has proof that anything was racist when it happens so fast. That is why despite constitutional rights, people are still discriminated against because of racist attacks that have no proof. I guess this is more of a way of seeing it. But my point that someone who wouldn't know the KFC stereotype wouldn't think it was bad has been clarified. Usually the people who do know it would view it as meaning something.
I mean I think you already have your answer to why I thought it was a stereotype. That's because it is a stereotype. I mean knowing the guys views and his (conservative fox news attitude) is enough for me. I mean a lot of people already know what fox news thinks about black people, especially when they commit crimes. I mean other people may not feel that it was prejudice or maybe not care but don't shun the people who call out that it was a prejudice statement.
Besides I went to sleep so I wasn't waiting for you to reply
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