Adding Reply Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Why be racist? Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post The Last Magister Posted at 6:01 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Honestly, don't get get me wrong, I think everyone should be proud of who they are, but, if you are going to degrade someone else, at least do it about something you can prove and compare. I mean, at least things like classism and nationalism have ways to compare, but racism and sexism, it's just like, "hey you're different." "yup." "I'm better than you." "wut? how?" "Dunno." ======= FFS, that's why I find racism to be the worst form of prejudice, it's the most useless. Again, do I think it's ok for EVERYONE to take pride in their individual race? Yes. But if you feel the need to compare yourself to others, then at least be able to prove something. I mean, at least nationalism has a country's history, racism is just...hey, you've got colour! Sorry LW, my week's been really, REALLY, REALLY, fucked up, I'm trying to cope the best I can without giving in to certain things I made a promise to never do again.

Replies jakelong Posted at 7:52 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from Chava at 1:46 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm#prevalence How about looking at overall crime because murder isn't the only crime that affects people. Does the prevalence of imprisonment mean they are more likely to be criminals or more likely to be imprisoned? Do you assume that if they are imprisoned at higher rates they are automatically MORE guilty than whites? jakelong Posted at 7:51 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from Chava at 1:42 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 In 2005, homicide victimization rates for blacks were 6 times higher than the rates for whites In 2005, offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher than the rates for whites   So are you more worried about black victims or black offenders? Why don't you ALSO worry about black victims? Those rates are also pretty high. Chava Posted at 1:46 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm#prevalence How about looking at overall crime because murder isn't the only crime that affects people. Chava Posted at 1:42 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 In 2005, homicide victimization rates for blacks were 6 times higher than the rates for whites In 2005, offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher than the rates for whites Headlines from the information you sent me. And there were more felony and gun related murders involving blacks killing whites. jakelong Posted at 1:33 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Are you black? Because most crimes affect mostly only other blacks 86% of white victims were killed by whites 94% of black victims were killed by blacks http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm If you are white then bitch about your white buddies. They are the ones more likely to commit crimes on you. Chava Posted at 1:23 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from jakelong at 4:14 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 So no I'm not racist. I have a half-hispanic son. And our good family friend is black so no we're not racist. Yeah thats a good enough stamp to let you off the hook right   Just because I'm white and bringing it to attention doesn't mean I'm racist!!! I've seen many of your posts on this forum. Trust me you're racist. I don't base it just from this thread. You don't need to "bring it to my attention" or anyone else's. I doubt there's any black who hasn't heard the old line about blacks and crimes at least 10 times a day in their life. Latinos hear the same crap as well. just because the stats says so doesn't mean that's all there is. No there's Bill Cosby, Barack Obama, and Oprah who are few and far between. It affects everyone, the way alot of blacks behave and commit crimes. That's why we bitch about it. jakelong Posted at 1:14 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 So no I'm not racist. I have a half-hispanic son. And our good family friend is black so no we're not racist. Yeah thats a good enough stamp to let you off the hook right Just because I'm white and bringing it to attention doesn't mean I'm racist!!! I've seen many of your posts on this forum. Trust me you're racist. I don't base it just from this thread. You don't need to "bring it to my attention" or anyone else's. I doubt there's any black who hasn't heard the old line about blacks and crimes at least 10 times a day in their life. Latinos hear the same crap as well. just because the stats says so doesn't mean that's all there is. Chava Posted at 12:36 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from jakelong at 3:28 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from Chava at 6:33 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 I discriminate more on the culture of a person. I can't stand people who act "ghetto" and set themselves up for a life of crime and ignorance. Sorry but statistically alot of them happen to be black. I don't think that's racism it's just an unfortunate coincidence. What about those that "act chava"? Is it a coincidence that they are all poor white? I have black friends so apparently I trust some black people like I trust some white people. I really like how the "I can't be racist because I have friends of another color" is used over and over by the racists. We're actually middle class not poor. $45,000 a year is middle class. Plus I'm studying for my Cisco certification right now which will raise my salary by about $5,000 a year and then there's my fiance's job (who happens to be hispanic not white). So no I'm not racist. I have a half-hispanic son. And our good family friend is black so no we're not racist. I'm talking statistically. More blacks commit crime than whites, more blacks end up in jail than whites, more blacks drop out of high school than whites. It's all over the news! I saw something today on Face the Nation with Bill Cosby and a few other faces in black entertainment talking about the "black crisis" namely "black crime". So turn on your fucking television and face some fucking facts. Just because I'm white and bringing it to attention doesn't mean I'm racist!!! jakelong Posted at 12:28 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from Chava at 6:33 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 I discriminate more on the culture of a person. I can't stand people who act "ghetto" and set themselves up for a life of crime and ignorance. Sorry but statistically alot of them happen to be black. I don't think that's racism it's just an unfortunate coincidence. What about those that "act chava"? Is it a coincidence that they are all poor white? I have black friends so apparently I trust some black people like I trust some white people. I really like how the "I can't be racist because I have friends of another color" is used over and over by the racists. Chava Posted at 12:22 pm on Jan. 12, 2009 Quote: from Moonscar at 11:08 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from Chava at 7:55 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from Moonscar at 10:32 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from Chava at 7:10 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from Moonscar at 10:03 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from Chava at 6:57 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 How is it racist to not agree with or like a certain type of life which is btw turning our society into a bunch of mindless criminals?     You said you don't trust black people and you base a bunch of your reasons off of stereotypes created by the media and such.   When did I say that I didn't trust black people or that my opinion is based off of the media?   I have black friends so apparently I trust some black people like I trust some white people. And I'm basing my opinion not off of the media but personal experiance. I used to live in low-income housing. Most of the people there were black and most sold drugs, did drugs, or stole for a living.   Well if you live in an Area that is run down or has a lot of poor people that is bound to happen. But you tried to conclude that most black people were like that. When your poor or live in a poor area, crime just happens....    No you reversed what I said. I said that most people who were in the poor area were black (which goes along with you economically disadvantaged point of view) not that most people commiting crimes were black. I said most people who try to pull off the ghetto persona were black and alot of them were headed towards a life of crime and ignorance which is true. Not that most people committing all types of crime were black. Although according to government statistics they are the highest percentile of inmates in the U.S. as of 2007. You said "You and your race look stupid" in your "lets be logical" topic. That kind of means that you think the whole race looks stupid which would contradict your claim that you don't think majority of black people act this way...... That was in rants and angry arguments because someone really pissed me off that day. It has no validity in this debate which doesn't stem from rage at being robbed. In this topic I've said nothing of the sort. bloundybab11 Posted at 10:23 am on Jan. 10, 2009 sorry jakelong Posted at 9:56 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Most ppl who are racist - feel the need to be thought as better than others based on race because they have nothing else to be proud of - often don't want to admit it even though every one around sees/knows them for who they are - really need to get a life yeah I agree to chill. Moonscar Posted at 9:45 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from TheLastMagister at 8:19 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Both of you need to chill, this is what I was talking about. Just...chill. Ok? How about we just agree poor have more crime, see? That is actually something that matters, instead of race. But at the same time flaming the crap out of people who do have statistics, no matter if the statistics don't really mean much, doesn't solve anything. This wasn't a flame. This was a debate. dumb whore Posted at 8:21 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 racists are stupid. the end. The Last Magister Posted at 8:19 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Both of you need to chill, this is what I was talking about. Just...chill. Ok? How about we just agree poor have more crime, see? That is actually something that matters, instead of race. But at the same time flaming the crap out of people who do have statistics, no matter if the statistics don't really mean much, doesn't solve anything. Most recent 15 of 39 previous replies displayed.