Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Wake Up And Smell The New Police State! Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [mod]marshmellowman[/mod] at 5:24 am on Oct. 20, 2008[quote]Quote: from [m]Wakeupcall[/m] at 1:20 pm on Oct. 20, 2008[quote]Intrude on your privacy [i]like what?[/i] Asking you to prove that you are who you claim to be?[/quote]In regards to CCTVs, I meant the privacy. As for buying a mobile phone, introducing this stupid legislation is absolutely stupid. It will simply angry people because they won't carry their passports with them, having to go back and get it, to [b]prove something they do already[/b] with their driver's licences. It just unnecessarily complicates things. Terrorists will get ahold of mobile phones and disposable accounts, this [b]won't stop[/b] them. There are so many offers by Orange, O2 and the like to get free Pay as You Go SIM cards, it's unreal. They probably have a whole stash anyway. They also communicate via the Internet, encrypted radio, etc. This is a stupid step which will aggravate the public and will hardly help in catching terrorists at all. It's pointless, and why the hell should I have to carry around my passport to buy a phone, when you can just get old or used ones on the market, an easy way around for terrorists, it's not like they'll be new £300 phones anyway.[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post PureBlackNight Posted at 3:59 am on Oct. 20, 2008 timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4969312.ece In The United Kingdom... You Are Going To have A Passport In Order To Get A Cell Phone!

Replies Aimforthehead Posted at 8:37 am on Oct. 24, 2008 HOLY SHIT! Almost everyone on this thread is saying 'oh that's fine it's in the name of terrorism' This shows there are no bounds to how brainwashed people have become. Humans don't deserve to be free, this topic alone shows they don't want it and can't handle it. medjai Posted at 9:14 pm on Oct. 23, 2008 Like seriously you kids won't be lolling when the Van is in front of your house, arresting your mom for 'conspiracy'. I LOL at your brainwashed convalescence though the signs are all around you and you think your 'law abiding' medjai Posted at 9:10 pm on Oct. 23, 2008 You retards don't realize that you don't actually have to be a terrorist for the government to claim you are one. When your friend start disappearing you'll see what I mean. Bearsy Posted at 8:41 pm on Oct. 23, 2008 How can people be accepting of this? deadsilence Posted at 5:56 pm on Oct. 23, 2008 well at least ur economy's not collapsing 'much' Sachacohen2 Posted at 8:04 am on Oct. 23, 2008 I hate the fucking UK at times SpM Posted at 5:56 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from marshmellowman at 1:50 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 By research all I mean is something other than news from shitty tabloids like the Daily Mail and the Sun. Watching BBC news will be enough, as long as you get the facts and not the overblown propaganda. They are talking about the latest celebrity gossip and random misinterpreted fact of the day, like always. But without emotional conviction, they just react like Wakeupcall, and virtually every other poster in this thread. "Well, I have a passport. And I'm not a terrorist anyway. So what's for lunch?" SpM Posted at 5:53 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 1:42 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Yes, because showing ID when buying the same is the same as having a totalitarian government...yes. Quite. Not quite..yet. But 'tis an insidious game of grandmother's footsteps that the government is engaged in. marshmellowman Posted at 5:51 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 1:42 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Yes, because showing ID when buying the same is the same as having a totalitarian government...yes. Quite. Have you ever been to Zimbabwe? Well thanks for totally ignoring my points. I was making an analogy, and despite it being an extreme one, it still demonstrates my point of the fallacy of your argument, which you still won't admit. Don't bring Zimbabwe into this, it's irrelevant. I addressed your point and you had no intentions of doing the same to mine because, either a) you are ignorant or, b) you are lazy. Either way it does not bode well for you. Please don't continue to argue your point if you won't back it up or follow through with it. And just to add, you already need to show ID when buying a contract phone, and some Pay as you go ones too (depending on the store). They asked for my Driver's Licence when I got mine to verify my details. marshmellowman Posted at 5:50 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from SpM at 1:44 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 If it requires research we're already fighting a losing battle. There should be a deep seated mistrust of governmental interference in our lives that transcends any rational argument. Where are the rabble rousing tabloids when you need 'em? By research all I mean is something other than news from shitty tabloids like the Daily Mail and the Sun. Watching BBC news will be enough, as long as you get the facts and not the overblown propaganda. They are talking about the latest celebrity gossip and random misinterpreted fact of the day, like always. SpM Posted at 5:44 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from marshmellowman at 1:40 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 What remains traditional these days? All we can do is pray that Wakeupcall is in the minority, and they'll wake up one day with enough sense to research the area and find out how wrong they've been, then thank the lord that they cannot vote just yet (I hope anyway). If it requires research we're already fighting a losing battle. There should be a deep seated mistrust of governmental interference in our lives that transcends any rational argument. Where are the rabble rousing tabloids when you need 'em? Wakeupcall Posted at 5:42 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from marshmellowman at 5:39 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 1:32 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 "They already do it in France, no 'V for Vendetta' sitch going on over there." "they do it in country [x] so it's fine here" is not a valid argument. Moreover what works for one country might not work for the other. Should England get the Euro just because France find it okay? Of course not, it will devastate to our economy, we're hardly the same as France. Just because China is still in (mostly) one piece even with their totalitarian government doesn't mean that other countries should start practising the same way. Learn some common sense and logic. Yes, because showing ID when buying the same is the same as having a totalitarian government...yes. Quite. Have you ever been to Zimbabwe? marshmellowman Posted at 5:40 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from SpM at 1:33 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Aren't teenagers traditionally the fiery revolutionaries ranting about the evils of establishment? If Wakeupcall is apathetic at this age, he'll be beating my head in with a truncheon at 25. What remains traditional these days? All we can do is pray that Wakeupcall is in the minority, and they'll wake up one day with enough sense to research the area and find out how wrong they've been, then thank the lord that they cannot vote just yet (I  hope anyway). SpM Posted at 5:40 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 1:39 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 I'm not saying everything France does is Ok, but I am saying we've already seen this passport thing happen in things such as Norway, France, Australia, Thailand, Denmark... But we shall fight it on the beaches! Wakeupcall Posted at 5:39 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from SpM at 5:36 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 1:32 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 "They already do it in France, no 'V for Vendetta' sitch going on over there." I've never heard the "everything France does is automatically okay" argument before, but I'm damn sure it's a logical fallacy. We should come up with a name for it. Who knows Latin? I'm not saying everything France does is Ok, but I am saying we've already seen this passport thing happen in things such as Norway, France, Australia, Thailand, Denmark... Honey, everything's Ok.   Most recent 15 of 57 previous replies displayed.