Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Were the Israelies justified in their airstrike? Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]smartlake[/m] at 11:48 am on Dec. 29, 2008[quote]Quote: from [m]MakingaDifference001[/m] at 3:32 pm on Dec. 28, 2008[quote]racist much?[/quote] This is not racist.  This is a valid polital discussion.   I think they they were not justified.  I am finding it increasingly difficult to care whether or not the Arabs and Hamas destroy Israel (not that I am advocating it; I am sick of hearing about the things that Israel is doing and I am wondering why the US support them)[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post Sachacohen2 Posted at 3:30 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Were they in your opinion? I personally think no, they're a bunch of bastards. I know the Palestians/Hamas are not lovely either but they are no way as bad as the Jews.

Replies carracer Posted at 3:59 pm on Jan. 4, 2009 Quote: from zigily at 3:28 pm on Jan. 4, 2009 Well I think it does mater that they were democratically elected. I thought that was what the west was for? I don't think we can pick and choose when we want democracy, just because we don't like who was elected. Recognise the government and then hold them accountable if they break international laws.     Break international laws? LIke launching rockets into another country? zigily Posted at 3:28 pm on Jan. 4, 2009 Well I think it does mater that they were democratically elected. I thought that was what the west was for? I don't think we can pick and choose when we want democracy, just because we don't like who was elected. Recognise the government and then hold them accountable if they break international laws. carracer Posted at 2:07 pm on Jan. 4, 2009 Quote: from zigily at 10:55 am on Jan. 4, 2009 Quote: from carracer at 2:30 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from mammoth at 10:28 am on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from carracer at 5:13 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 Quote: from mammoth at 3:34 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from handsfree at 3:33 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Fucking YES!   I want all the fucking terrorist HEzbollah muslims to be exterminated.               stop being retarded..they aint terrorists  Look it up.  Hezbollah is entirely a terrorist organization.        And I think that terrorists have no right to be anywhere, therefore I think that israel was justified.  Hammas has no business shooting rockets over the border at civilians.     excuse me,     but those are not terrorist groups...i hate how you guys jump to labels like that. they are an organization that is trying to take back the land that is rightfully theirs....since Palestine is not allowed to have an army, the only way to defend itself is through this organization     i suggest that if you want to know more about the conflict stop watching trashy news like CNN     please, for your own sake watch legitimate news like bbc or aljazeera     then you get the truth on whats happening over there... BBC and aljazeera are both extremely biased. You have no idea what you are talking about. Hamas is a terrorist organization. They don't "protect the Palestinians", they shoot at israeli civilians.     THEY ARE A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.   Hamas were democratically elected by the palestinians. Isreal is killing many more civillians than Hamas is. I think the BBC and Al Jazeera are probably the least biased news stations, but what news stations would you recommend? It doesn't matter if they were democratically elected. Hamas and Fatah have both been known as terrorist groups. I actually think that BBC is pretty biased. I don't think any news source t be trusted entirely. If you want to go to extremes, then go to al jazeera and then go to the jerusalem post. Also, the only reason more israelis aren't dying, is because they hide in bomb shelters. Somehow israeli homes are destroyed and people don't die. The only reason is because when they hear a bomb siren go off, they go to their "safe-rooms". Almost every israeli building has one. carracer Posted at 2:05 pm on Jan. 4, 2009 Quote: from allsmiles at 10:40 am on Jan. 4, 2009 Quote: from mbs55 at 7:12 pm on Jan. 3, 2009 YES, they were justified. They are DEFENDING themselves. Israel is surrounded by nations that absolutely despise them and would attempt to wipe them off the face of the earth if they don't stand up for themselves. Of course, some people are too blind to see that, including the obvious racist who created this thread.     There's a good reason why they want to destroy Israel. Israel's been engaged in a 60 year war with financially and technologically inferior Palestine, a state of Islam. Israel is self identified as the Jewish state, and religions clash naturally. There's a lot of tension there. Yes, these days, Israel cannot stop being militarily prepared, but that's a problem they made for themselves when they saw the need to expand their territories by force. They gave the Palestinians nearly half the country. http://www.israelmapxl.com/images/israel-political-map.jpg The whites parts in Israel are palestinian territories. Almost the entire southern part of the country is barren desert. It may look like a lot, but the majority of it is uninhabitable. zigily Posted at 10:55 am on Jan. 4, 2009 Quote: from carracer at 2:30 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from mammoth at 10:28 am on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from carracer at 5:13 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 Quote: from mammoth at 3:34 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from handsfree at 3:33 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Fucking YES!    I want all the fucking terrorist HEzbollah muslims to be exterminated.             stop being retarded..they aint terrorists   Look it up.   Hezbollah is entirely a terrorist organization.       And I think that terrorists have no right to be anywhere, therefore I think that israel was justified.   Hammas has no business shooting rockets over the border at civilians.    excuse me,    but those are not terrorist groups...i hate how you guys jump to labels like that. they are an organization that is trying to take back the land that is rightfully theirs....since Palestine is not allowed to have an army, the only way to defend itself is through this organization    i suggest that if you want to know more about the conflict stop watching trashy news like CNN    please, for your own sake watch legitimate news like bbc or aljazeera    then you get the truth on whats happening over there... BBC and aljazeera are both extremely biased. You have no idea what you are talking about. Hamas is a terrorist organization. They don't "protect the Palestinians", they shoot at israeli civilians.   THEY ARE A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. Hamas were democratically elected by the palestinians. Isreal is killing many more civillians than Hamas is. I think the BBC and Al Jazeera are probably the least biased news stations, but what news stations would you recommend? allsmiles Posted at 10:40 am on Jan. 4, 2009 Quote: from mbs55 at 7:12 pm on Jan. 3, 2009 YES, they were justified. They are DEFENDING themselves. Israel is surrounded by nations that absolutely despise them and would attempt to wipe them off the face of the earth if they don't stand up for themselves. Of course, some people are too blind to see that, including the obvious racist who created this thread. There's a good reason why they want to destroy Israel. Israel's been engaged in a 60 year war with financially and technologically inferior Palestine, a state of Islam. Israel is self identified as the Jewish state, and religions clash naturally. There's a lot of tension there. Yes, these days, Israel cannot stop being militarily prepared, but that's a problem they made for themselves when they saw the need to expand their territories by force. carracer Posted at 3:54 pm on Jan. 3, 2009 Quote: from Raza say at 2:55 am on Jan. 3, 2009 Quote: from carracer at 5:16 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 Quote: from Raza say at 9:58 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Quote: from Savren at 8:49 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Quote: from Raza say at 8:45 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Quote: from Chava at 5:02 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Yes. They had been getting bombed by Gaza for while before those airstrikes. No one wants to report those attacks though. I think one made it onto the news.     According to the truce between Hamas and Israel, Israeli army tanks were not allowed to come near or inside Gaza. Perhaps, you should try getting your facts straight. Israeli army violated the truce first, and then faced rocket attacks from Hamas,and if you think its justifiable to kill some 370 innocent civilians as a retaliation of few rocket which btw rarely end up taking someone's life, then reconsider.   They attacks killed 60 civilians unintentionally, the rest were Hamas guys. A labeled terrorist organization.     Get your facts straight, 370 innocent civilians is greatly exaggerating the truth.   Wow, watch aljazeera or some unbiased news sources. More civilians died than people related to Hamas. Also, Gaza democratically elected Hamas. You are twisting up the actual facts, just to prove yourself right. In anyway, this massacre per se is unjstifiable.    lmao    When did aljazeera become an "unbiased news source"? Unbiased factor aside, al-jazeera is channeled from the middle east. Now don't go on raving, that it dosen't presents a more accurate picture or straight forward information(at least on the middle east) than other news channels like BBC and CNN, or your favourite Fox news. lol. I never watch fox news. You just want me to. You know, I could also check the jerusalem post. Another middle eastern paper. But I am sure that you wouldn't. carracer Posted at 3:53 pm on Jan. 3, 2009 Quote: from mammoth at 7:16 am on Jan. 3, 2009 Quote: from Raza say at 2:55 am on Jan. 3, 2009 Quote: from carracer at 5:16 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 Quote: from Raza say at 9:58 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Quote: from Savren at 8:49 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Quote: from Raza say at 8:45 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Quote: from Chava at 5:02 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Yes. They had been getting bombed by Gaza for while before those airstrikes. No one wants to report those attacks though. I think one made it onto the news.        According to the truce between Hamas and Israel, Israeli army tanks were not allowed to come near or inside Gaza. Perhaps, you should try getting your facts straight. Israeli army violated the truce first, and then faced rocket attacks from Hamas,and if you think its justifiable to kill some 370 innocent civilians as a retaliation of few rocket which btw rarely end up taking someone's life, then reconsider.         They attacks killed 60 civilians unintentionally, the rest were Hamas guys. A labeled terrorist organization.       Get your facts straight, 370 innocent civilians is greatly exaggerating the truth.       Wow, watch aljazeera or some unbiased news sources. More civilians died than people related to Hamas. Also, Gaza democratically elected Hamas. You are twisting up the actual facts, just to prove yourself right. In anyway, this massacre per se is unjstifiable.   lmao   When did aljazeera become an "unbiased news source"?    Unbiased factor aside, al-jazeera is channeled from the middle east. Now don't go on raving, that it dosen't presents a more accurate picture or straight forward information(at least on the middle east) than other news channels like BBC and CNN, or your favourite Fox news.   what?! ah...you guys...dumb and loud...sorry but your playing on my nerves aljazeera was quoted as the most reliable news source from the WEST as well as other parts...it actually is the best news source there is... NOW...its your turn to LOOK THAT SHIT UP http:// thinkingpolitics.wordpress.com /2007/11/13/the-stories-we-are-told-media-bias-in-the-new-coverage-of-middle-east/ mbs55 Posted at 11:12 am on Jan. 3, 2009 YES, they were justified. They are DEFENDING themselves. Israel is surrounded by nations that absolutely despise them and would attempt to wipe them off the face of the earth if they don't stand up for themselves. Of course, some people are too blind to see that, including the obvious racist who created this thread. KathyN Posted at 10:15 am on Jan. 3, 2009 What about Israeli News Channels? mammoth Posted at 7:16 am on Jan. 3, 2009 Quote: from Raza say at 2:55 am on Jan. 3, 2009 Quote: from carracer at 5:16 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 Quote: from Raza say at 9:58 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Quote: from Savren at 8:49 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Quote: from Raza say at 8:45 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Quote: from Chava at 5:02 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Yes. They had been getting bombed by Gaza for while before those airstrikes. No one wants to report those attacks though. I think one made it onto the news.     According to the truce between Hamas and Israel, Israeli army tanks were not allowed to come near or inside Gaza. Perhaps, you should try getting your facts straight. Israeli army violated the truce first, and then faced rocket attacks from Hamas,and if you think its justifiable to kill some 370 innocent civilians as a retaliation of few rocket which btw rarely end up taking someone's life, then reconsider.   They attacks killed 60 civilians unintentionally, the rest were Hamas guys. A labeled terrorist organization.     Get your facts straight, 370 innocent civilians is greatly exaggerating the truth.   Wow, watch aljazeera or some unbiased news sources. More civilians died than people related to Hamas. Also, Gaza democratically elected Hamas. You are twisting up the actual facts, just to prove yourself right. In anyway, this massacre per se is unjstifiable.    lmao    When did aljazeera become an "unbiased news source"? Unbiased factor aside, al-jazeera is channeled from the middle east. Now don't go on raving, that it dosen't presents a more accurate picture or straight forward information(at least on the middle east) than other news channels like BBC and CNN, or your favourite Fox news. what?! ah...you guys...dumb and loud...sorry but your playing on my nerves aljazeera was quoted as the most reliable news source from the WEST as well as other parts...it actually is the best news source there is... NOW...its your turn to LOOK THAT SHIT UP Raza say Posted at 2:55 am on Jan. 3, 2009 Quote: from carracer at 5:16 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 Quote: from Raza say at 9:58 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Quote: from Savren at 8:49 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Quote: from Raza say at 8:45 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Quote: from Chava at 5:02 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 Yes. They had been getting bombed by Gaza for while before those airstrikes. No one wants to report those attacks though. I think one made it onto the news.     According to the truce between Hamas and Israel, Israeli army tanks were not allowed to come near or inside Gaza. Perhaps, you should try getting your facts straight. Israeli army violated the truce first, and then faced rocket attacks from Hamas,and if you think its justifiable to kill some 370 innocent civilians as a retaliation of few rocket which btw rarely end up taking someone's life, then reconsider.      They attacks killed 60 civilians unintentionally, the rest were Hamas guys. A labeled terrorist organization.    Get your facts straight, 370 innocent civilians is greatly exaggerating the truth.    Wow, watch aljazeera or some unbiased news sources. More civilians died than people related to Hamas. Also, Gaza democratically elected Hamas. You are twisting up the actual facts, just to prove yourself right. In anyway, this massacre per se is unjstifiable. lmao When did aljazeera become an "unbiased news source"? Unbiased factor aside, al-jazeera is channeled from the middle east. Now don't go on raving, that it dosen't presents a more accurate picture or straight forward information(at least on the middle east) than other news channels like BBC and CNN, or your favourite Fox news. carracer Posted at 2:34 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from mammoth at 2:12 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from Savren at 11:59 am on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from mammoth at 10:28 am on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from carracer at 5:13 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 Quote: from mammoth at 3:34 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from handsfree at 3:33 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Fucking YES!           I want all the fucking terrorist HEzbollah muslims to be exterminated.          stop being retarded..they aint terrorists       Look it up.       Hezbollah is entirely a terrorist organization.   And I think that terrorists have no right to be anywhere, therefore I think that israel was justified.       Hammas has no business shooting rockets over the border at civilians.   excuse me,   but those are not terrorist groups...i hate how you guys jump to labels like that. they are an organization that is trying to take back the land that is rightfully theirs....since Palestine is not allowed to have an army, the only way to defend itself is through this organization   i suggest that if you want to know more about the conflict stop watching trashy news like CNN   please, for your own sake watch legitimate news like bbc or aljazeera   then you get the truth on whats happening over there...    Says who?    And whoever said "why dont they use ground force?"    Because people would just throw a bigger hissy fit for them invading. But thats probably the next step anyways.   ah... i cant fight with everyone. cant you guys at least look into it "more thoroughly" before trying to prove to me that you are absolutley clueless on the matter. first off- find a source that is worth trusting.... for example: an unworthy source would be: hmmm...if you look up something about the conflict....and lets say... the author was an isreali extremist....what kind of info are you guys gonna get? guess what..the facts are gonna be twisted... and obviosly you guys dont trust arabs   so then get a source that has an author whom is in middle ground, concerning the conflict.. ALWAYS LOOK WHO IS THE AUTHOR and see what his personal standpoints are on the matter...then..if they have none, then perhaps it may be a legitimate source...PERHAPS And this is coming from the guy who thinks that aljazeera is completely unbiased.   I would recommend that you follow you own advice before preaching it. carracer Posted at 2:30 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from mammoth at 10:28 am on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from carracer at 5:13 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 Quote: from mammoth at 3:34 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from handsfree at 3:33 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Fucking YES!       I want all the fucking terrorist HEzbollah muslims to be exterminated.       stop being retarded..they aint terrorists    Look it up.    Hezbollah is entirely a terrorist organization.  And I think that terrorists have no right to be anywhere, therefore I think that israel was justified.    Hammas has no business shooting rockets over the border at civilians. excuse me, but those are not terrorist groups...i hate how you guys jump to labels like that. they are an organization that is trying to take back the land that is rightfully theirs....since Palestine is not allowed to have an army, the only way to defend itself is through this organization i suggest that if you want to know more about the conflict stop watching trashy news like CNN please, for your own sake watch legitimate news like bbc or aljazeera then you get the truth on whats happening over there... BBC and aljazeera are both extremely biased. You have no idea what you are talking about. Hamas is a terrorist organization. They don't "protect the Palestinians", they shoot at israeli civilians. THEY ARE A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. mammoth Posted at 2:12 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from Savren at 11:59 am on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from mammoth at 10:28 am on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from carracer at 5:13 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 Quote: from mammoth at 3:34 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Quote: from handsfree at 3:33 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 Fucking YES!    I want all the fucking terrorist HEzbollah muslims to be exterminated.             stop being retarded..they aint terrorists   Look it up.   Hezbollah is entirely a terrorist organization.       And I think that terrorists have no right to be anywhere, therefore I think that israel was justified.   Hammas has no business shooting rockets over the border at civilians.    excuse me,    but those are not terrorist groups...i hate how you guys jump to labels like that. they are an organization that is trying to take back the land that is rightfully theirs....since Palestine is not allowed to have an army, the only way to defend itself is through this organization    i suggest that if you want to know more about the conflict stop watching trashy news like CNN    please, for your own sake watch legitimate news like bbc or aljazeera    then you get the truth on whats happening over there... Says who?   And whoever said "why dont they use ground force?" Because people would just throw a bigger hissy fit for them invading. But thats probably the next step anyways. ah... i cant fight with everyone. cant you guys at least look into it "more thoroughly" before trying to prove to me that you are absolutley clueless on the matter. first off- find a source that is worth trusting.... for example: an unworthy source would be: hmmm...if you look up something about the conflict....and lets say... the author was  an isreali extremist....what kind of info are you guys gonna get? guess what..the facts are gonna be twisted... and obviosly you guys dont trust arabs so then get a source that has an author whom is in middle ground, concerning the conflict.. ALWAYS LOOK WHO IS THE AUTHOR and see what his personal standpoints are on the matter...then..if they have none, then perhaps it may be a legitimate source...PERHAPS Most recent 15 of 58 previous replies displayed.