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nyc93 Posted at 1:46 pm on June 10, 2008
in my opinion there are 2 unbeatable countries they are Russia and China because no matter what you do to them they can just keep throwing people at you

agree?

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mcdouga Posted at 8:23 pm on June 11, 2008
The US could never beat China at war and they know it.

http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/slasheastasia_1.htm

The overwhelming assessment by Asian officials, diplomats and analysts is that the U.S. military simply cannot defeat China. It has been an assessment relayed to U.S. government officials over the past few months by countries such as Australia, Japan and South Korea. This comes as President Bush wraps up a visit to Asia, in which he sought to strengthen U.S. ties with key allies in the region.

Most Asian officials have expressed their views privately. Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara has gone public, warning that the United States would lose any war with China.

"In any case, if tension between the United States and China heightens, if each side pulls the trigger, though it may not be stretched to nuclear weapons, and the wider hostilities expand, I believe America cannot win as it has a civic society that must adhere to the value of respecting lives," Mr. Ishihara said in an address to the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Mr. Ishihara said U.S. ground forces, with the exception of the Marines, are "extremely incompetent" and would be unable to stem a Chinese conventional attack. Indeed, he asserted that China would not hesitate to use nuclear weapons against Asian and American cities, even at the risk of a massive U.S. retaliation.

The governor said the U.S. military could not counter a wave of millions of Chinese soldiers prepared to die in any onslaught against U.S. forces. After 2,000 casualties, he said, the U.S. military would be forced to withdraw.

"Therefore, we need to consider other means to counter China," he said. "The step we should be taking against China, I believe, is economic containment."

Officials acknowledge that Mr. Ishihara's views reflect the widespread skepticism of U.S. military capabilities in such countries as Australia, India, Japan, Singapore and South Korea. They said the U.S.-led war in Iraq has pointed to the American weakness in low-tech warfare.

"When we can't even control parts of Anbar, they get the message loud and clear," an official said, referring to the flashpoint province in western Iraq.

As a result, Asian allies of the United States are quietly preparing to bolster their militaries independent of Washington. So far, the Bush administration has been strongly opposed to an indigenous Japanese defense capability, fearing it would lead to the expulsion of the U.S. military presence from that country.

Lepperking Posted at 1:19 am on June 11, 2008
Quote: from The Raven at 8:49 am on June 11, 2008

Quote: from dont notice me at 4:47 pm on June 10, 2008

lol china will never run out

Don't be so sure. The recent earthquake knocked out a good chunk of their population. Nature is fucking sick of there being so many Chinese on that piece of land. They are ruining it.



IIRC, it was a tiny fraction.
Russia's population is not that large in comparison to the
US and China? It just has lots of land.
And manpower is not everything, technology and industrial capacity plays a big part when war does break out
Apotheosis Posted at 1:50 pm on June 10, 2008
no, and that's a retarded idea
clavicle Posted at 1:49 pm on June 10, 2008
Quote: from dont notice me at 4:47 pm on June 10, 2008

lol china will never run out

Don't be so sure. The recent earthquake knocked out a good chunk of their population. Nature is fucking sick of there being so many Chinese on that piece of land. They are ruining it.

greatescape Posted at 1:48 pm on June 10, 2008
Russia would crumble in an instant.

If there are any "unbeatable" countries, they are China, the US, or even by your theory, India.

I happen to believe they are all beatable though.

Except Kiribati, obviously.

clavicle Posted at 1:48 pm on June 10, 2008
Russia = unbeatable due to their territory. Hitler showed us that.
They just have their own great big fort up there in bundle-it-up land.
DemolitionxXxLover Posted at 1:48 pm on June 10, 2008
Lol, all of the russians are already here.
Dont Notice Me Posted at 1:47 pm on June 10, 2008
lol china will never run out
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