But if you choose not to believe and burn in hell that is your choice
Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:14 am on July 6, 2008 Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 11:17 pm on July 5, 2008 I didn't say i knew the origin of the point, nor would I be arrogant enough to venture any guess. Science doesn't know either. Nor does it pretend to know. When you say we don't know what dark matter is, do you mean that we don't know it's appearance or equivalence of an atom or what? We do know what it is, anti-matter, but we don't know it's makeup, appearance, etc. Well, I didn't say 'dark matter' but since you brought it up... "... dark matter is not antimatter, because we do not see the unique gamma rays that are produced when antimatter annihilates with matter." What I did say was 'Dark Energy'... "More is unknown than is known. We know how much dark energy there is because we know how it affects the Universe's expansion. Other than that, it is a complete mystery." http://nasascience.nasa.gov/astrophysics/what-is-dark-energy Like I said, you should read up on these things a bit. Would you please find a credible scientific source for your claim about the wear of human bodies?Start here. You seemed to insinuate god was responsible for the things "unexplainable by science" (they will be, just not in the present). Plus, you did mention god. "Well, you don't believe in the power of God, so that's a natural reaction for you. However, I do believe, therefore anything is possible with God. So, if He wishes it so, Mary will have His son."That was in a different post. I made that comment based on the content in my last post only. Correction, science doesn't know yet. energy can be converted to matter, and vice versa. The same goes for dark matter and dark energy. I mistyped dark matter as anti-matter due to my rapid typing speed. I do make mistakes occasionally. Amazingly, I have read up on these things, only there are different opinions on it in the science community, just as with string theory and other barely know things in science. http://longevity.about.com/od/researchandmedicine/p/wear_tear.htm http://longevity.about.com/od/longevity101/a/why_we_age.htm These were linked to your link. They seem to to disagree with your thoughts on the aging process of humans. However you want to cut it, you still seemed to insinuate that god was the cause and answer for the things as of yet unexplainable by science.
Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 11:17 pm on July 5, 2008 I didn't say i knew the origin of the point, nor would I be arrogant enough to venture any guess. Science doesn't know either. Nor does it pretend to know. When you say we don't know what dark matter is, do you mean that we don't know it's appearance or equivalence of an atom or what? We do know what it is, anti-matter, but we don't know it's makeup, appearance, etc. Well, I didn't say 'dark matter' but since you brought it up... "... dark matter is not antimatter, because we do not see the unique gamma rays that are produced when antimatter annihilates with matter." What I did say was 'Dark Energy'... "More is unknown than is known. We know how much dark energy there is because we know how it affects the Universe's expansion. Other than that, it is a complete mystery." http://nasascience.nasa.gov/astrophysics/what-is-dark-energy Like I said, you should read up on these things a bit. Would you please find a credible scientific source for your claim about the wear of human bodies?Start here. You seemed to insinuate god was responsible for the things "unexplainable by science" (they will be, just not in the present). Plus, you did mention god. "Well, you don't believe in the power of God, so that's a natural reaction for you. However, I do believe, therefore anything is possible with God. So, if He wishes it so, Mary will have His son."That was in a different post. I made that comment based on the content in my last post only.
I didn't say i knew the origin of the point, nor would I be arrogant enough to venture any guess.
When you say we don't know what dark matter is, do you mean that we don't know it's appearance or equivalence of an atom or what? We do know what it is, anti-matter, but we don't know it's makeup, appearance, etc.
What I did say was 'Dark Energy'... "More is unknown than is known. We know how much dark energy there is because we know how it affects the Universe's expansion. Other than that, it is a complete mystery." http://nasascience.nasa.gov/astrophysics/what-is-dark-energy
Like I said, you should read up on these things a bit.
Would you please find a credible scientific source for your claim about the wear of human bodies?
You seemed to insinuate god was responsible for the things "unexplainable by science" (they will be, just not in the present). Plus, you did mention god. "Well, you don't believe in the power of God, so that's a natural reaction for you. However, I do believe, therefore anything is possible with God. So, if He wishes it so, Mary will have His son."
"Well, you don't believe in the power of God, so that's a natural reaction for you. However, I do believe, therefore anything is possible with God. So, if He wishes it so, Mary will have His son."
Correction, science doesn't know yet.
energy can be converted to matter, and vice versa. The same goes for dark matter and dark energy.
I mistyped dark matter as anti-matter due to my rapid typing speed. I do make mistakes occasionally. Amazingly, I have read up on these things, only there are different opinions on it in the science community, just as with string theory and other barely know things in science.
http://longevity.about.com/od/researchandmedicine/p/wear_tear.htm
http://longevity.about.com/od/longevity101/a/why_we_age.htm
These were linked to your link. They seem to to disagree with your thoughts on the aging process of humans.
However you want to cut it, you still seemed to insinuate that god was the cause and answer for the things as of yet unexplainable by science.
Speedy typing is now an excuse for ignorance? Make very sure of your understanding of the 'dark' make-up of the universe before you start telling me what you 'know'. I really doubt you know more (or even as much) as I do about this particular subject. Just saying that 'dark matter is anti-matter' is a really big clue and I'm pretty sure that wasn't due to the speed at which you may be typing.
But if you choose not to believe and live your life like anybody else, that's your choice
Fixed, and now we think exactly the same.
The logic for attributing things science cannot yet explain as a product of godly intervention is akin to attributing all such matters with powerful magical fairies controlling everything or super duper unicorns ramming into the and creating planets.
If we cannot explain an occurence, then any explanation, no matter how implausible can be used to explain such an occurence.
Therefore, we rely on what we do know and what we can explain. We use our existing knowledge as a basis for learning more about our world.
Stop being ignorant.
I believe that it is a load of crap. jesus does exist and if any people have read the bible they would realize that. Adam and eve is how the human race started to begin with. God created the earth, the plants, the trees, and many things. But if you choose not to believe and burn in hell that is your choice
Number two: Yes, the Bible does say the human race was started by Adam and Eve. But is there any evidence of this besides what is in Genesis? For a source to be guaranteed accurate, there must be other sources to back it up. If it stands alone it will never be taken seriously.
Number three: How can you prove that God created the Earth? As I brought up in the first section, there are many ancient religious texts (and also oral traditions) from around the world. Most have differing events in their creation stories, even if many do involve deities. Is there concrete evidence that the Christian creation myth has more credibility?Is there any proof that a powerful immortal being made the universe? 6-10,000 years ago (according to the Bible)?!?! There is no evidence to support this. If you are interested in learning about the nature of the universe and what scientists have concluded from research, evidence, and a lot of hard work, then look up string theory and m theory.
Look, I'm not saying your religion is wrong, just that you should use your brain. Question everything. That's what got us out of Medieval times and into the modern world. It's how medical and technological advances are made. Single-mindedness leads to racism, other predjudices, and misconceptions. Try to understand what other people think and then make a decision.
P.S. - To all who believe evolution (& other scientific theories) should not be taught in school because there's no proof, then you are a hypocrite, because intelligent design has even less proof. This "theory" is trying to bend science to fit a religious belief. This is not scientific. True scientific knowlege is obtained through research backed by evidence, trial and error, and observation.
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*Paradox has spoken.*
hell sounds fun. >__>
Question: How does someone being Christian or Buddhist or whatever belief, help with scientific experiments? These experiments are meant to be objective, so if you wish to include your beliefs, it's now subjective. In doing so, you introduce a possibility for biases so the outcome will fit with what you expect.
Did you mean that perhaps God helped out with the experiment? Maybe God was chilling in heaven reading up on some quantum physics or mircobiology.
If you care for your little book so much, here are some other books you may like (it's only a short list but I'm sure you could add more): - The Three Little Pigs - James and the Giant Peach - Snow White - Alladin And you can add in some more. Happy reading :D
a name like 'liberalsareevil' ranting about atheism sucking face, please.
now stop being terrible, all of you.
Quote: from obvious child at 7:55 pm on July 5, 2008 I would shred him but he's obviously a troll doing what he'd doing for kicks and giggles. If he was serious I'd actually put the time in to refuting him. Yep. Too bad mods aren't doing anything about it.
I would shred him but he's obviously a troll doing what he'd doing for kicks and giggles. If he was serious I'd actually put the time in to refuting him.
Yep. Too bad mods aren't doing anything about it.
At least in this topic, he's not breaking any more rules than people who make topics about "Christianity is a load of crap" or "Islam is a load of crap" or whatever variant you like, and his ignorance is no worse than, say, Shogun's.
Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 11:15 pm on July 4, 2008 Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:06 pm on July 4, 2008 How the big bang came about. What dark energy actually is. The reason our bodies wear out. The Big Bang came about (this one is an opinion/personal hypothesis) because a particle of such extreme density and heat would be inherently unstable and rip itself apart. This is my own hypothesis, and we aren't really sure. Dark energy/matter is anti-matter. It is literally the opposite of energy and matter. Our bodies wear out because oxygen is a degenerative gas that destroys organic matter. It stops our bodies from being able to properly replace the worn out cells which makes death from old age. Toxins, mutations, and electromagnetic radiation (i.e. mainly infrared and ultraviolet) also have similar effects. Of course, you can say "goddidit" for everything that you don't know fully and just use it as a reason to validate your beliefs.You really ought to read up on those things a little better. No one knows how that "point" came to be that somehow became unstable. No one knows just exactly what dark energy is... period. In fact the only reason it's known to exist is because of its effect on the universe. The cells that make up our bodies are completely replaced on a regular basis. I think (I didn't look this up so I might be off) the cycle is about 7 years. If that's the correct number then the oldest cell in a persons body is approximately 7 years old and is due for replacement by a new cell. Yet some people die of "old age" at 60 and some live to 100+ years of age. Science has yet to find that answer. edit: and I didn't even mention God...
Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:06 pm on July 4, 2008 How the big bang came about. What dark energy actually is. The reason our bodies wear out. The Big Bang came about (this one is an opinion/personal hypothesis) because a particle of such extreme density and heat would be inherently unstable and rip itself apart. This is my own hypothesis, and we aren't really sure. Dark energy/matter is anti-matter. It is literally the opposite of energy and matter. Our bodies wear out because oxygen is a degenerative gas that destroys organic matter. It stops our bodies from being able to properly replace the worn out cells which makes death from old age. Toxins, mutations, and electromagnetic radiation (i.e. mainly infrared and ultraviolet) also have similar effects. Of course, you can say "goddidit" for everything that you don't know fully and just use it as a reason to validate your beliefs.
How the big bang came about. What dark energy actually is. The reason our bodies wear out.
The Big Bang came about (this one is an opinion/personal hypothesis) because a particle of such extreme density and heat would be inherently unstable and rip itself apart. This is my own hypothesis, and we aren't really sure.
Dark energy/matter is anti-matter. It is literally the opposite of energy and matter.
Our bodies wear out because oxygen is a degenerative gas that destroys organic matter. It stops our bodies from being able to properly replace the worn out cells which makes death from old age. Toxins, mutations, and electromagnetic radiation (i.e. mainly infrared and ultraviolet) also have similar effects.
Of course, you can say "goddidit" for everything that you don't know fully and just use it as a reason to validate your beliefs.
No one knows how that "point" came to be that somehow became unstable.
No one knows just exactly what dark energy is... period. In fact the only reason it's known to exist is because of its effect on the universe.
The cells that make up our bodies are completely replaced on a regular basis. I think (I didn't look this up so I might be off) the cycle is about 7 years. If that's the correct number then the oldest cell in a persons body is approximately 7 years old and is due for replacement by a new cell. Yet some people die of "old age" at 60 and some live to 100+ years of age. Science has yet to find that answer.
edit: and I didn't even mention God...
You seemed to insinuate god was responsible for the things "unexplainable by science" (they will be, just not in the present). Plus, you did mention god.
Dude,you need to have stuff they can't explan away,like how brilienyt Scientist George wasington carver as also christan. Being Christan actualy HELPED him with his experiments.
How? How could Christianity possible help with experiments?
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