Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic You know what I'm sick of hearing? Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]NikkiMikki[/m] at 10:12 pm on Aug. 29, 2008[quote]I just don't buy the idea that some random powerful being decided one day to just say "oh, I think I'll make a planet." And the whole, happening in 7 days thing? I know you said God can exist without the Bible being true, but the whole foundation of the theory of a higher power, is the Bible. In my opinion anyways. Who knows, I could be wrong. But the whole God idea seems to be just a way of humans explaining things they can't understand, or never will really. [/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post newman Posted at 10:08 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 When atheists argue against the existence of God and bash the Bible while doing it. God can exist even if the Bible not true. Unless the argument is specifically about the Bible and religion, I don't want to hear about it.  If you don't believe in God, say why.  Don't say "the Bible isn't real," because that doesn't make God non-existent.

Replies Forever Angel Posted at 7:29 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from Shaknbake at 1:59 am on Aug. 30, 2008 Quote: from newman at 10:08 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 When atheists argue against the existence of God and bash the Bible while doing it.    God can exist even if the Bible not true.    Unless the argument is specifically about the Bible and religion, I don't want to hear about it.  If you don't believe in God, say why.  Don't say "the Bible isn't real," because that doesn't make God non-existent. The Bible is the only real "evidence" put forward for God's (Jehovah's) existence. No refutation beyond the Bible is necessary. If someone gives you a fake I.D. to prove a man's existence, why should you argue the point beyond proving the I.D. fake? Sure, the man could still exist. But if the only evidence for him is the I.D., what exactly does that chance matter? The Bible is not evidence of the existence of God. It's a 'guide book', a maintenance manual, so to speak, for the Christian religion. And an explanation of what and why Christians believe. Is a science book 'evidence' for evolution or the 'Big Bang' or any other "natural" phenomenon? No, it's simply a book filled with words that give one an understanding of those concepts. If no book of science had ever been written, would that change the reality of any of those occurrences? If the biblical God does exist, would the absence of a Bible actually affect His existence? Kitty Kiska Posted at 2:39 am on Sep. 6, 2008 The Bible is the proff of Gods presence...its like disgarding any other book which is vital evidence of someone's presence... So there for when people disgard the bible they then disgard any true proff of gods presence (which most people need to believe) those that dont need proff to believe in God are truely believers... james 123 Posted at 12:38 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Well without the fucking bible what do u gus's have just some guy inthe clouds Shaknbake Posted at 9:26 am on Aug. 30, 2008 Quote: from The Nowhere Man at 3:19 am on Aug. 30, 2008 You stated that is was Jehovah, specifically. Other people on the forum take it to be an argument against Generic God(s) (most famously, Moridin). Nobody who has any idea what they're talking about thinks an argument based on the Bible is an argument against any god but Jehovah. Christianity is the significant beast in (most of) our culture(s). When you talk of "God," whether generic or not, almost everyone thinks Jehovah, whether they know it or not. People think they're arguing against "gods" when they're actually arguing against Jehovah. The Nowhere Man Posted at 3:19 am on Aug. 30, 2008 Quote: from Shaknbake at 11:59 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from newman at 10:08 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 When atheists argue against the existence of God and bash the Bible while doing it.    God can exist even if the Bible not true.    Unless the argument is specifically about the Bible and religion, I don't want to hear about it. If you don't believe in God, say why. Don't say "the Bible isn't real," because that doesn't make God non-existent. The Bible is the only real "evidence" put forward for God's (Jehovah's) existence. No refutation beyond the Bible is necessary. If someone gives you a fake I.D. to prove a man's existence, why should you argue the point beyond proving the I.D. fake? Sure, the man could still exist. But if the only evidence for him is the I.D., what exactly does that chance matter? You stated that is was Jehovah, specifically. Other people on the forum take it to be an argument against Generic God(s) (most famously, Moridin). Shaknbake Posted at 11:59 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from newman at 10:08 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 When atheists argue against the existence of God and bash the Bible while doing it. God can exist even if the Bible not true. Unless the argument is specifically about the Bible and religion, I don't want to hear about it.  If you don't believe in God, say why.  Don't say "the Bible isn't real," because that doesn't make God non-existent. The Bible is the only real "evidence" put forward for God's (Jehovah's) existence. No refutation beyond the Bible is necessary. If someone gives you a fake I.D. to prove a man's existence, why should you argue the point beyond proving the I.D. fake? Sure, the man could still exist. But if the only evidence for him is the I.D., what exactly does that chance matter? obvious child Posted at 10:48 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from newman at 7:08 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 When atheists argue against the existence of God and bash the Bible while doing it. God can exist even if the Bible not true. Unless the argument is specifically about the Bible and religion, I don't want to hear about it. If you don't believe in God, say why. Don't say "the Bible isn't real," because that doesn't make God non-existent. You do realize these people are bashing the Christian God and denying the existence of the Christian God no? I agree that if the Bible was a total load of bullshit that it would not effect the existence of other Gods. But what you fail to realize is that these people aren't generally talking about God in all forms. They are specifically attacking the Biblical God. BluShift Posted at 10:15 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 The Bible exists. Its a book, just like Harry Potter. However, just because humans think linearly and can't understand concepts of infinity does not mean we need to fill the gaps with God. newman Posted at 10:13 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from mcrfool at 10:10 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 It would make God a fairy tale. Way to completely miss the point. newman Posted at 10:12 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from hooray for rootbeer at 10:10 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 The Bible is real. It's a fucking book. It doesn't mean it's true. Way to completely miss the point. Mieux Posted at 10:12 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 I don't deny the existence of God. You can't disprove his existence. I just take in all the facts and information out there and decide not to believe in his existence. But I certainly will attack the bible and religion. :) NikkiMikki Posted at 10:12 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 I just don't buy the idea that some random powerful being decided one day to just say "oh, I think I'll make a planet." And the whole, happening in 7 days thing? I know you said God can exist without the Bible being true, but the whole foundation of the theory of a higher power, is the Bible. In my opinion anyways. Who knows, I could be wrong. But the whole God idea seems to be just a way of humans explaining things they can't understand, or never will really. ErnestoTheTrippyOne Posted at 10:10 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 I agree, even though I'm an Atheist. A god can exist if the Christian Bible isn't right. mcrfool Posted at 10:10 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 It would make God a fairy tale. hooray for rootbeer Posted at 10:10 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 The Bible is real.  It's a fucking book.  It doesn't mean it's true. Most recent 15 of 15 previous replies displayed.