Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic A few questions for those very familiar with Biblical teachings. Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [mod]Hi Carie[/mod] at 8:28 am on Sep. 9, 2008[quote]this is a very touchy subject for a lot of people. The bible seems pretty clear that the only way to heaven is through belief in God/Jesus and following him. It says that belief and repentance are necessary. so.. 1) more than likely. 2) it wont affect his salvation at all, as long as his faith stays strong and he follows God. 3) yes. I believe the Bible teaches that you God can work through you, even if you are not aware of it. however, that is not the same as being "with" God. [/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post disco pig Posted at 7:35 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Please only answer this with responses you've gotten with the help of the Bible. I don't want to know your personal opinion about God, I just want to know what the Bible says. Thanks! 1) Even if someone lives doing what is right, will they burn in Hell for not believing in the Christian God even if he sees that their intentions were true? 2) Will my fiancee burn in Hell if he marries me, a nonbeliever? 3) Could my inner light that guides me be God working through me without me acknowledging him?

Replies JohnTheNormalOne Posted at 2:52 pm on Sep. 9, 2008 Well, Dante's "Inferno" says that virtuous non-believers go to limbo, which is not such a bad place (but is still part of hell, but no physical torment). But the "Inferno" was written some 1500 years after the bible, so idk. Just convert to pastafarianism and follow the way of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Trust me. It's the best choice Prince o palities Posted at 2:39 pm on Sep. 9, 2008 See my signature.  "Will I go to hell if..." is essentially never the right question.  It will generally never have a good answer.  I'm going to answer basically the way the other Christians in this topic have, however, I hope to be a little more comprehensive.  If my post is too long to read, you'll find the gist of it in exceedinglyrare and barnabas' posts. 1) Every indication of scripture is that your good works have absolutely nothing to do with your salvation.  You'll find in Romans 11 and Ephesians 2 that Paul explicitly says that it is by grace and not by works that you may attain salvation.  That grace is the grace of Jesus' forgiveness that is taken on when you participate in his saving act (namely his death, burial, and resurrection) through baptism (see Acts 2, Romans 6, and Colossians 2).  Jesus makes several claims to exclusivity, that is that he is the only way to achieve this salvation (which makes sense since it is taken on the participation in his sacrificial death).  The most famous of these statements is in John 14 where he says "No one comes to the Father except through me."  You will see here that good works are not a part of any of that.  Living a good life is good, but never good enough to get you in to heaven, because as Romans 3 reminds us, "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." 2)  Will she burn in hell is the wrong question.  Should she be uniting herself in the flesh (the Bible unequivocally calls marriage becoming one with) with someone who is not in Christ?  That's a better question.  It would seem to me that the indication of Scripture is that she should not.  This comes largely from 2 Corinthians 6 and 1 Corinthians 7.  In 1 Cor. 7, Paul lays out the hardships of marriage and why he believes it is better to be unmarried and in it he takes a particularly long time explaining the issue of believers married to unbelievers.  There is no prohibition here of marrying unbelievers, but that is because the couples in question consist of one member who was converted after marriage and the other who was not.  Certainly Paul would never have conceived of why a Christian would want to impose upon him or herself the trial of being married to a non-believer.  This is in part evidenced by the statement in 2 Cor 6 that believers should not be bind themselves to unbelievers.  In short, I think the idea of Christians marrying non-Christians is ill-advised all the way around.  Marriage, according to Paul and common sense, is already a complicated affair (let me tell you, I know).  No sensible person, much less a devout Christian, should think to deliberately complicate it by marrying someone with a fundamentally incompatible world view. 3) God can certainly work without you acknowledging Him and there are instances of that in Scripture.  However, God has never abstracted Himself to the point of being a guiding force or an inner light.  The way He interacted with the world was always bold and always overt.  He did not hide Himself from us.  Should you acknowledge that "inner light" and cultivate it with study and religious devotion, you may find that it was God after all.  You may also find that it was just your conscience or some personal standard of good.  However, you cannot presume that a God who spoke verbally to Moses on a mountain top and became incarnate in order to die would think it was acceptable for you to label your guiding light Him and pretend that you are following Him. If you're interested in talking more, I'm always available (as is barnabas and Princess o palities).  Two of us majored in Bible at a liberal arts university and one of us minored in it and we'd all be happy to help you through any questions you might have. superchris4000 Posted at 12:58 pm on Sep. 9, 2008 1. You will, but if you don't want to burn, trust in Jesus. Trust me, it's an awesome choice to make. Although it's ok if you don't. 2. No 3. yes, but if you believe that God is guiding you, why not trust in him? exceedinglyrare Posted at 9:36 am on Sep. 9, 2008 1. No one knows, but Scripture suggests that it's most likely. 2. Your beliefs have nothing to do with his salvation. 3. It's possible. justin1990rm Posted at 8:31 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from Molfsontan at 7:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 1. No, they will not 2. No, as long as he was Baptised 3. Sure People interpret the Bible in different ways, read it and take it for your own. how do you know your side is right? Hi Carie Posted at 8:28 am on Sep. 9, 2008 this is a very touchy subject for a lot of people. The bible seems pretty clear that the only way to heaven is through belief in God/Jesus and following him. It says that belief and repentance are necessary. so.. 1) more than likely. 2) it wont affect his salvation at all, as long as his faith stays strong and he follows God. 3) yes. I believe the Bible teaches that you God can work through you, even if you are not aware of it. however, that is not the same as being "with" God. Molfsontan Posted at 7:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 1. No, they will not 2. No, as long as he was Baptised 3. Sure People interpret the Bible in different ways, read it and take it for your own. All 7 previous replies displayed.