Quote: from Sachacohen2 at 9:29 pm on Oct. 17, 2008 Yes, I read the whole thing. You said 'There are very few INTELLIGENT, articulate Muslims that ever frequent various religious debate sites'. Which means you've seen at least one articulate Muslim on the internet. You're starting to bore me now. You've seen your mistake. The argument is over. You claim to be a Muslim; you're articulate. There you go. Now, show me that you're not brainwashed and can think for yourself by answering my question. Prove me wrong.
Yes, I read the whole thing. You said 'There are very few INTELLIGENT, articulate Muslims that ever frequent various religious debate sites'. Which means you've seen at least one articulate Muslim on the internet. You're starting to bore me now. You've seen your mistake. The argument is over.
You're starting to bore me now. You've seen your mistake. The argument is over.
You claim to be a Muslim; you're articulate. There you go.
Now, show me that you're not brainwashed and can think for yourself by answering my question. Prove me wrong.
Right , now that arguement is over. Will you please repeat the question? As I mentioned before I don't know what question you're talking about.
Have you even read the rest of the thread, chica? I didn't accept or acknowledge anything. I'm pointing out that I've yet to see an intelligent, articulate Muslim on the internet, and that still stands. Prove. Me. Wrong.
I didn't accept or acknowledge anything. I'm pointing out that I've yet to see an intelligent, articulate Muslim on the internet, and that still stands. Prove. Me. Wrong.
Yes, I read the whole thing. You said 'There are very few INTELLIGENT, articulate Muslims that ever frequent various religious debate sites'. Which means you've seen at least one articulate Muslim on the internet.
Quote: from Sachacohen2 at 8:12 pm on Oct. 17, 2008 I find that hard to believe. There are 1 billion Muslims and you've never met a single Muslim on the Internet in all your 9 years who has fitted that criteria. Sure Whatever. I'm not going to bother and answer your questions because arguing with you is like going around in circles. Thereby furthering my belief about internet Muslims. Well done! You can ask around if you like. There are very few intelligent, articulate Muslims that ever frequent various religious debate sites. The ones who are articulate are like yourself and only exist to throw tantrums when people point out that their questions aren't being answered, thereby convincing the rest of the internet community that they have no answers. Really, I'd hate to be Allah if this is what he has representing him on earth. Yeesh.
I find that hard to believe. There are 1 billion Muslims and you've never met a single Muslim on the Internet in all your 9 years who has fitted that criteria. Sure Whatever. I'm not going to bother and answer your questions because arguing with you is like going around in circles.
Whatever. I'm not going to bother and answer your questions because arguing with you is like going around in circles.
Thereby furthering my belief about internet Muslims. Well done!
You can ask around if you like. There are very few intelligent, articulate Muslims that ever frequent various religious debate sites. The ones who are articulate are like yourself and only exist to throw tantrums when people point out that their questions aren't being answered, thereby convincing the rest of the internet community that they have no answers.
Really, I'd hate to be Allah if this is what he has representing him on earth. Yeesh.
No, I didn't throw a trantrum because you pointed out some question that's not been answered ( I don't even what question you're talking about). I got annoyed because you said there weren't any intelligent Muslims on the Internet. I hate it when people generalise because it just shows their ignorance.
Oh well at least you've finally accepted that there are intelligent , articulate Muslims on the internet whether there are only few or not, and you're not stereotype every single Muslim internet user on the planet. Thank you.
That's because the countries with the largest numbers of Christians are USA,Mexico,Brazil,Russia,China,Germany and UK Also,Atheists now have increased in Number,as In Europe,there's only 14% believers,5% of France 's population go to church which is for the record the biggest catholic European country,besides its smaller than French Muslim's population itself !!!
Also,Atheists now have increased in Number,as In Europe,there's only 14% believers,5% of France 's population go to church which is for the record the biggest catholic European country,besides its smaller than French Muslim's population itself !!!
But point that there aren't very many pagans in the entire world, not just the West, yet there are still plenty of intelligent, articulate pagans on various websites. I've met plenty of intelligent, articulate Muslims in real life. I'd like for one, just one, on the internet, to actually answer the questions I ask in a mature, articulate and intelligent manner that convinces me that s/he hasn't simply been spoonfed answers down at the local mosque.
*sigh* This is me never coming across a single one who knew how to debate, who thought for him or herself, and who could speak proper English.
I find that hard to believe. There are 1 billion Muslims and you've never met a single Muslim on the Internet in all your 9 years who has fitted that criteria. Sure
just as I don't have to go to a specifically Christian/atheist/pagan/Satanist/Buddhist/agnostic site to find them.
That's because the countries with the largest numbers of Christians are USA,Mexico,Brazil,Russia,China,Germany and UK
Please learn to read. This isn't me not accepting a Muslim here and there as being intelligent. This is me never coming across a single one who knew how to debate, who thought for him or herself, and who could speak proper English.
Just as there are intelligent atheists, pagans, Christians, Satanists, Buddhists, agnostics, etc. ad nauseum, on this site and various others...just as I don't have to go to a spefically Christian/atheist/pagan/Satanist/Buddhist/agnostic site to find them...I shouldn't have to go to a specifically Muslim site to find intelligent Muslims.
You're rather defensive. How about, kiddo, instead of throwing a fit because I've yet to be proven wrong about my theory (and trust me, I give people plenty of chances, as you can see in this very thread), you try to answer the questions I've put forth and prove me wrong without making me add "belligerent" to my list of traits held by internet Muslims?
Quote: from whrocky5092 at 12:42 pm on Oct. 16, 2008 It has been known for many years, and you can look it up yourself that the bible and the torah both had some words changed by it. This is known world wide. I want you to know that i am not trying to attack anyyones religion or purpose in life but just trying to answer youur question. So you have the original copies of the manuscripts for the Bible and the Torah? What's more, who's to say that the Qu'ran hasn't been changed? And wasn't Muhammed illiterate? How do you know that the message that was written down at the Qu'ran was what Muhammed was really saying? What if his scribes just made things up that they thought sounded better? Please can you not stereotype all Muslims on the internet. You do know Muslims on the internet, also exist in 'real life'. I'm waiting for this theory to be proven wrong. If you can bring a single, educated Muslim to this forum, who can think for him/herself and answer questions in something that resembles good English, I'll retract my statement. As it stands, however, in nine years of debating religion on the internet, I have never once seen an articulate, intelligent Muslim who wasn't clearly brainwashed and didn't speak some retarded version of pidgin. I'm convinced that they simply do not exist.
It has been known for many years, and you can look it up yourself that the bible and the torah both had some words changed by it. This is known world wide. I want you to know that i am not trying to attack anyyones religion or purpose in life but just trying to answer youur question.
So you have the original copies of the manuscripts for the Bible and the Torah?
What's more, who's to say that the Qu'ran hasn't been changed? And wasn't Muhammed illiterate? How do you know that the message that was written down at the Qu'ran was what Muhammed was really saying? What if his scribes just made things up that they thought sounded better?
Please can you not stereotype all Muslims on the internet. You do know Muslims on the internet, also exist in 'real life'.
I'm waiting for this theory to be proven wrong. If you can bring a single, educated Muslim to this forum, who can think for him/herself and answer questions in something that resembles good English, I'll retract my statement. As it stands, however, in nine years of debating religion on the internet, I have never once seen an articulate, intelligent Muslim who wasn't clearly brainwashed and didn't speak some retarded version of pidgin. I'm convinced that they simply do not exist.
No, this is fucking TEEN forum. Go to a proper Islamic forum, where you will meet a lot of educated Muslims speaking in 'good English'. And please remember most Muslins in the world live in countries where English is not the first language. So don't think they're stupid if they can't speak English perfectly.
And when you say Muslims on the Internet are brainwashed, you sound ridiculous. This may come as a shock, but people on the internet are not imaginary but exist in real life too. I know I've said that before but I don't think you've understood that concept yet.
Also you're the one who is clearly brainwashed into thinking Muslims on the Internet are idiots , if in all those nine years , you've never been able to accept any Muslim to be intelligent. You clearly judge them before giving them a chance to prove themselves.
And by the way I am a Muslim. But I don't give a shit if such a close minded person such as yourself thinks I am intelligent or not.
Because no human being can really come up and create the words that were in it.
Have you ever heard of Joseph Smith?
What reason do they have to forge wat he was saying.
So that they could gain more political and religious influence and, therefore, be able to improve their own life situations or force society to move in the way they thought it should move.
They were also muslims why would they lie.
Why wouldn't they? They had everything to gain and nothing to lose.
That would be just tricking yourself.
How? You know it's not true, but you perpetuate it anyway because you know it'll get you money, land, glory, etc. Why not lie?
Quote: from whrocky5092 at 2:14 pm on Oct. 16, 2008 Mohammad was illeterate, all he did was just recite the Qur'an as the angel Gabriel read it to him and the scholars around him wrote it down. How do you know that they wrote down what he said and not what they wanted to write down? How do you know that he was reciting what the angel told him and not making stuff up as he went along? How do you know that it was Gabriel and not Michael?
Mohammad was illeterate, all he did was just recite the Qur'an as the angel Gabriel read it to him and the scholars around him wrote it down.
How do you know that they wrote down what he said and not what they wanted to write down?
How do you know that he was reciting what the angel told him and not making stuff up as he went along?
How do you know that it was Gabriel and not Michael?
Because no human being can really come up and create the words that were in it. What reason do they have to forge wat he was saying. They were also muslims why would they lie. That would be just tricking yourself.
Why don't you stop posting on this forum and post on other religion forums. If you are serious (and you aren't), then I advise you to click on my link and register at that website. Alternatively, you could try the Islam section over at Theology Web.
I wish it was just this website, but it's not. I was on Theology Web for a little while, but I didn't really get as much into it...I might check it out again.
Still, though...you'd think that with the traffic of ~5 different sites in the course of nine years, it would've been easier to come across someone who wasn't like cutemira or charmgirl.
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