Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Jesus or Evolution? Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]hubbabubba52[/m] at 8:10 pm on Nov. 11, 2008[quote]I say the big bang theory, all the evidense is there. Sorry to the people who disagree.[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post hubbabubba52 Posted at 8:10 pm on Nov. 11, 2008 I say the big bang theory, all the evidense is there. Sorry to the people who disagree.

Replies Red X Posted at 8:06 pm on Nov. 17, 2008 Sorry it was my fault, I pushed the red button. staggeringgenius Posted at 2:41 pm on Nov. 17, 2008 Can someone please tell me then who created God? If those of you that are arguing against the Big Bang claim that it's improbable because "at first there was nothing. Then it exploded," then someone enlighten me as to how a mystical higher being is created from nothing. Is he like a sea monkey? Spontaneous generation? What is it? I'd really like to know if someone could give me some actual, concrete, historical evidence of God without using the Bible as a source, please. andymac1 Posted at 3:19 pm on Nov. 15, 2008 evidence is spelled with a c btw.  Sorry, peeve of mine.  God amde big bang, which made evolution, which made us (you've heard it before). saramitch85 Posted at 12:01 pm on Nov. 14, 2008 I believe in God :) exceedinglyrare Posted at 8:06 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from phosphorescence at 5:31 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 i highly doubt that you have i didn't call you uneducated, i said you must be if you disagree with my statement - by disagreeing, you made it true in my mind. however, i still believe your statement is false. can you explain to me how you've come to this conclusion? i've never heard this before.   and once again, you saying i am not a christian doesn't make it true. your opinion of me means nothing, just make sure your facts are straight before you mislead others. It's not me saying it. Consider: there are set characteristics one must have in order to be considered a Republican. There are set characteristics one must have in order to be considered a homosexual. And there are set characteristics one must have in order to be considered a Christian. On another note, if you're so damn educated, tell me: how many years have you studied? At what school? With what professors? Who have you read? When did you read them? The Nowhere Man Posted at 5:47 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from Shogun villimax at 2:51 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from hubbabubba52 at 8:10 pm on Nov. 11, 2008 I say the big bang theory, all the evidense is there. Sorry to the people who disagree.   What evidence?!   "Some how some stuff colided and made the universe"?   Where did the stuff come from? No. A singularity 'exploded' - we don't know how. It could have been the result of a "Big Crunch" (theoretical situation where the universe collapses in on itself, before exploding out again) or even a black hole. Or something else. The Big Bang, the theory of evolution, and almost every other scientific theory under the sun is not completely opposed to a belief in God. Many, many people - myself included - believe that God created us through such, either by directly having a hand in it (so to speak), or by "winding it up and letting it go." Science and religion are not mutually exclusive. By refusing to educate yourself and refusing to realise this, you are making Christianity, and religion as a whole, look bad as well as yourself. (edit: Look at it this way. If this is indeed the "first multi/universe" and not the result of a Big Crunch or similar, an infinite amount of energy would be needed to create it (energy and matter can not be created or destroyed, only changed and transferred to paraphrase one of the most well-known laws of physics). Therefore, that could have come from God.  It doesn't mean that the Big Bang is wrong, it's still the Big Bang). Shogun villimax Posted at 2:51 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from hubbabubba52 at 8:10 pm on Nov. 11, 2008 I say the big bang theory, all the evidense is there. Sorry to the people who disagree. What evidence?! "Some how some stuff colided and made the universe"? Where did the stuff come from? phosphorescence Posted at 2:31 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 3:49 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from phosphorescence at 3:25 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 do you?    you've got to be pretty uneducated to disagree with that... but it's ok, because i didn't ask you :/    i'll call myself what i'd like, whether you agree or not. it's not your place to tell my what i am, or what i'm not. No, but Christianity teaches that the world was created through Jesus Christ. If you don't believe that, you are not a Christian. And don't presume to call me uneducated, toad. I can guarantee I've studied this more than you have. i highly doubt that you have i didn't call you uneducated, i said you must be if you disagree with my statement - by disagreeing, you made it true in my mind. however, i still believe your statement is false. can you explain to me how you've come to this conclusion? i've never heard this before. and once again, you saying i am not a christian doesn't make it true. your opinion of me means nothing, just make sure your facts are straight before you mislead others. exceedinglyrare Posted at 12:49 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from phosphorescence at 3:25 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 do you? you've got to be pretty uneducated to disagree with that... but it's ok, because i didn't ask you :/ i'll call myself what i'd like, whether you agree or not. it's not your place to tell my what i am, or what i'm not. No, but Christianity teaches that the world was created through Jesus Christ. If you don't believe that, you are not a Christian. And don't presume to call me uneducated, toad. I can guarantee I've studied this more than you have. phosphorescence Posted at 12:25 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:20 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from phosphorescence at 7:40 pm on Nov. 12, 2008 Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 3:20 pm on Nov. 12, 2008 Quote: from phosphorescence at 2:29 pm on Nov. 12, 2008 p.s. i don't believe in either. Jesus did NOT create the universe, GOD did. Jesus was his son, durr.        and the big bang.. well.. that's just about the stupidest thing i've ever heard.        [just sayin]     You must ride the short bus, huh?     According to Christianity, Jesus = God the Son, and no tradition of Christianity believes that the world was not created through Jesus somehow.    calm down, sweety. i said it's what iii believe. try not to get too offended by a 100lb girl    and according to what i believe, yes the father the son and the holy spirit is a trinity, therefore they're one being. but technically, Jesus was the NAME of the perfect man who walked the earth, and died so that we could have a happy ending. God is the higher being that created the universe and everything in it, etc.    idk about you, but i tend to refer to Jesus by his name, and call the creator "God".    but it's ok, believe what you'd like. i promise i won't get mad :[ So do you call yourself a Christian? Because you shouldn't. do you? you've got to be pretty uneducated to disagree with that... but it's ok, because i didn't ask you :/ i'll call myself what i'd like, whether you agree or not. it's not your place to tell my what i am, or what i'm not. exceedinglyrare Posted at 10:20 am on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from phosphorescence at 7:40 pm on Nov. 12, 2008 Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 3:20 pm on Nov. 12, 2008 Quote: from phosphorescence at 2:29 pm on Nov. 12, 2008 p.s. i don't believe in either. Jesus did NOT create the universe, GOD did. Jesus was his son, durr.   and the big bang.. well.. that's just about the stupidest thing i've ever heard.   [just sayin]    You must ride the short bus, huh?    According to Christianity, Jesus = God the Son, and no tradition of Christianity believes that the world was not created through Jesus somehow. calm down, sweety. i said it's what iii believe. try not to get too offended by a 100lb girl   and according to what i believe, yes the father the son and the holy spirit is a trinity, therefore they're one being. but technically, Jesus was the NAME of the perfect man who walked the earth, and died so that we could have a happy ending. God is the higher being that created the universe and everything in it, etc. idk about you, but i tend to refer to Jesus by his name, and call the creator "God". but it's ok, believe what you'd like. i promise i won't get mad :[ So do you call yourself a Christian? Because you shouldn't. Mifan Posted at 9:48 am on Nov. 13, 2008 God, not Jesus, and having a "God created the universe" doesn't oppose to evolution nor the big bang. But, it is mostly faith based (on all theories) Link01 Posted at 9:30 am on Nov. 13, 2008 this topic is stupid TigressaLynnMae Posted at 8:41 am on Nov. 13, 2008 And how again is God more than that then? Did I miss the aspect when we found proof of a higher power's existance? DarkEyes Posted at 7:57 pm on Nov. 12, 2008 I'll have to vote for the big bang even though I know that there is a big hole in the theory. As someone stated earlier, the big bang describes an effect without a cause but since we do exist from that effect I'm sure that there is a rational explanation for that cause. Saying that some kind of intelligent decision was the cause for the big bang is not a rational answer for me. What was the cause for the intelligence if that was really what started it? I think there is still much more to the reality we all experience than we currently or may ever know. Most recent 15 of 60 previous replies displayed.