Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Christians who aren't against atheism/homosexuality are evil. Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]horseeyesss[/m] at 5:49 am on Jan. 5, 2009[quote]oh my goddd no one cares![/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post Parsine Posted at 5:48 am on Jan. 5, 2009 Atheists will burn in Hell for eternity if not saved. Just as we would be obligated to warn someone if they were taking a fatal concoction of pills, or were heading into the black part of town, or whatever, it is morally imperative for us Christians to save atheists from this fate. If you don't force your religion down their throats, your dooming them to Hell, so I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up there yourself.

Replies Shogun villimax Posted at 2:36 pm on Jan. 6, 2009 Quote: from Parsine at 5:48 am on Jan. 5, 2009 Atheists will burn in Hell for eternity if not saved. Just as we would be obligated to warn someone if they were taking a fatal concoction of pills, or were heading into the black part of town, or whatever, it is morally imperative for us Christians to save atheists from this fate. If you don't force your religion down their throats, your dooming them to Hell, so I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up there yourself. Actualy forcing it  makes us look bad and pushes them away. amber1991 Posted at 1:57 pm on Jan. 6, 2009 Let me get this straight...christians (me) who aren't against atheism and homosexuality are evil? So because I respect other peoples' beliefs and aren't against homosexuality because I believe in free will and choice I am going to go to hell? Oh as long as I'm going to hell for this I'll say that I'm not against abortion either. Dexter Ward Posted at 1:40 pm on Jan. 6, 2009 Your comparing a real threat to what is a possible threat, with religion its not like telling someone they will die if they take a bad mixture, instead its like telling someone to not to wear red clothes because one day the crips might take over the US government and kill everyone who wore red. obvious child Posted at 12:29 pm on Jan. 6, 2009 Seriously, these trolls suck. Parsine, your troll skills are beyond amateurish. imatwirp Posted at 10:24 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Actually my good sir, you have it wrong. You have interpreted the bible. Which is not in your power to do. Judgement is for God alone. God has the final judging power, he is the one that decides what happens to our souls. Not you. Atheist, Jewish, Buddhist, etc. It doesnt matter at all. What matters is whether you believe or not. And by the way, no place in the bible does it mention homosexuals all going to hell. The only thing mentioned states : "Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." This states put to death. It does not say heaven or hell. That is God's final decision. Not man's. Intolerant Christians give others a bad rep. -Your friendly neighborhood Atheist TigressaLynnMae Posted at 7:22 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Third, we most definately should not recognize homosexuality as a natural being and normacly; it shall always be as it was odd and abnormal to our civilized society.   Odd/abnormal according to whom? According to Christianity? Actually, no, the act of homosexual sex is considered the sin, not the act of loving another member of the same sex, according to such Faith. And, if you want to get technical, what of lesbians? And their sex? There's not a thing condeming that act in the Bible. Many other faiths do not neglect, or condemn, the act, nor the love. GeneCosta Posted at 1:43 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 As an atheist, I warmly (no pun intended) welcome the prospect of hell. As an intelligent mortal once said, All right, then, I'll go to hell. (Mark Twain) Aristocrat Posted at 12:35 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from Parsine at 5:48 am on Jan. 5, 2009 Atheists will burn in Hell for eternity if not saved. Just as we would be obligated to warn someone if they were taking a fatal concoction of pills, or were heading into the black part of town, or whatever, it is morally imperative for us Christians to save atheists from this fate. If you don't force your religion down their throats, your dooming them to Hell, so I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up there yourself. First, I want to congratulate you for not hiding under the semantic words and being man enough not beating around the bushes instead just flat out laying it clearly. Second, I agree with you, however, I don't think we should push religion or belief on people's throats but rather just inform them but if they refuse then fine no threats or imposing. Third, we most definately should not recognize homosexuality as a natural being and normacly; it shall always be as it was odd and abnormal to our civilized society.   exceedinglyrare Posted at 12:26 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from MourningAir at 2:55 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 I don't maintain that I can prove to others that Christianity is the one true word, only that I live my life as such and making my claim as a Christian, -that- is why I talk to others about Jesus. You're more than welcome to do so; however, if you're not considering the perspective of those others in your talking, you're doing a disservice to Christ and most likely driving them away. yellowsapphire Posted at 12:22 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 The best possible way, Parsine, to "convert" anyone is laid out for all to see in the Bible. The best way is to lead by example. Did Jesus preach hatred? Not unless you were a religious leader. Did Jesus exclaim that "if you don't force your religion down their throats, your (sic) dooming them to Hell, so I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up there yourself."? No. He preached love. He spent time with prostitutes and murderers. Look up who the disciples were...they were tax collectors etc. I'm sure God looks down at those who say "God hates you all" and "you're all going to Hell" and shakes His head. God never intended people to preach that, He intended people to preach his love, and love everyone else (coincidentially the two most important commandments). MourningAir Posted at 11:55 am on Jan. 5, 2009 I don't maintain that I can prove to others that Christianity is the one true word, only that I live my life as such and making my claim as a Christian, -that- is why I talk to others about Jesus. exceedinglyrare Posted at 10:42 am on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from MourningAir at 1:03 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from draakprinses at 12:00 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from MourningAir at 10:53 am on Jan. 5, 2009 See that's the sad thing here. I try to spread the Holy Word because I care about where others end up... and here they think I'm "forcing" stuff on them. no, I just don't want anyone to be separated from God for eternity.   What good comes from atheists trying to turn Christians away from God? None. They do it because they think of themselves as gods (funny thing is no human I've ever met has been worthy of worship) and they get satisfaction in it. Christians try to get atheists to turn to God because they're afraid from them.   haha *waits to be flamed*    You're not God, though, so you really don't know what standards God uses to judge people. The Bible is vague, completely open to interpretation, and not a 100% reliable resource, so that's out.    I'm Christian, also, but who the hell am I to present my beliefs as fact? We both could be completely wrong, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster really could be the one and only god, so why and use scare tactics to convert people to something that could quite possibly be wrong? While there are parts of the Bible some would consider vague, I don't see how you could disagree that those who do not believe in Jesus as our savior will not go to Heaven. It's made perfectly clear. Who are you to present your beliefs as fact? a Christian, that's who. Don't call yourself a Christian if you do not believe in what Jesus has said and that the only way to salvation is through Him. Also, I don't consider it using "scare tactics" by telling people the truth. Whether you personally believe it's the truth or not is irrelevant (but I don't understand how you could call yourself a Christian and at the same time deny the basics that Jesus taught) but I assure you I've never told people about God in an attempt to scare them, that has never been my "angle." When you can prove to someone else that Christianity is the one Truth in the world, you'll have a point. As you can't, your point is moot. draakprinses Posted at 10:30 am on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from MourningAir at 12:03 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from draakprinses at 12:00 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from MourningAir at 10:53 am on Jan. 5, 2009 See that's the sad thing here. I try to spread the Holy Word because I care about where others end up... and here they think I'm "forcing" stuff on them. no, I just don't want anyone to be separated from God for eternity.   What good comes from atheists trying to turn Christians away from God? None. They do it because they think of themselves as gods (funny thing is no human I've ever met has been worthy of worship) and they get satisfaction in it. Christians try to get atheists to turn to God because they're afraid from them.   haha *waits to be flamed*    You're not God, though, so you really don't know what standards God uses to judge people. The Bible is vague, completely open to interpretation, and not a 100% reliable resource, so that's out.    I'm Christian, also, but who the hell am I to present my beliefs as fact? We both could be completely wrong, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster really could be the one and only god, so why and use scare tactics to convert people to something that could quite possibly be wrong? While there are parts of the Bible some would consider vague, I don't see how you could disagree that those who do not believe in Jesus as our savior will not go to Heaven. It's made perfectly clear. Who are you to present your beliefs as fact? a Christian, that's who. Don't call yourself a Christian if you do not believe in what Jesus has said and that the only way to salvation is through Him. Also, I don't consider it using "scare tactics" by telling people the truth. Whether you personally believe it's the truth or not is irrelevant (but I don't understand how you could call yourself a Christian and at the same time deny the basics that Jesus taught) but I assure you I've never told people about God in an attempt to scare them, that has never been my "angle." The Bible hasn't been proven to be the ultimate truth. Fact makes faith obsolete. Faith is belief where fact is lacking. So you're telling me you have no faith? You have no authority to tell me what to and not to call myself. You are not God, and trying to tell me what to believe, and judging me is hubris. I don't think God would appreciate that. I do believe the basics Jesus taught. Love, respect, compassion. justin1990rm Posted at 10:13 am on Jan. 5, 2009 part troll, part truth MourningAir Posted at 10:03 am on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from draakprinses at 12:00 pm on Jan. 5, 2009 Quote: from MourningAir at 10:53 am on Jan. 5, 2009 See that's the sad thing here. I try to spread the Holy Word because I care about where others end up... and here they think I'm "forcing" stuff on them. no, I just don't want anyone to be separated from God for eternity.    What good comes from atheists trying to turn Christians away from God? None. They do it because they think of themselves as gods (funny thing is no human I've ever met has been worthy of worship) and they get satisfaction in it. Christians try to get atheists to turn to God because they're afraid from them.    haha *waits to be flamed* You're not God, though, so you really don't know what standards God uses to judge people. The Bible is vague, completely open to interpretation, and not a 100% reliable resource, so that's out. I'm Christian, also, but who the hell am I to present my beliefs as fact? We both could be completely wrong, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster really could be the one and only god, so why and use scare tactics to convert people to something that could quite possibly be wrong? While there are parts of the Bible some would consider vague, I don't see how you could disagree that those who do not believe in Jesus as our savior will not go to Heaven. It's made perfectly clear. Who are you to present your beliefs as fact? a Christian, that's who. Don't call yourself a Christian if you do not believe in what Jesus has said and that the only way to salvation is through Him. Also, I don't consider it using "scare tactics" by telling people the truth. Whether you personally believe it's the truth or not is irrelevant (but I don't understand how you could call yourself a Christian and at the same time deny the basics that Jesus taught) but I assure you I've never told people about God in an attempt to scare them, that has never been my "angle." Most recent 15 of 35 previous replies displayed.