Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic What would your argument be if I said... Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]Lady Catastrophic[/m] at 9:49 pm on Jan. 8, 2009[quote]Quote: from [m]Parsine[/m] at 10:43 pm on Jan. 8, 2009[quote]Quote: from [m]xsharpi[/m] at 9:40 pm on Jan. 8, 2009[quote]Quote: from [m]Parsine[/m] at 10:38 pm on Jan. 8, 2009[quote]Quote: from [m]dpade1337[/m] at 9:35 pm on Jan. 8, 2009[quote]and satan is who causes all those wankers. [/quote]   No, free will causes evil. (To clarify, I'm not talking about paedophiles like the dipshit OP.)[/quote]    What the hell is your problem?[/quote] I can't stand illiteracy and bigotry. [quote]but he knew that he had to make Saul king.[/quote] He said he [i]regreted[/i] making Saul king.[/quote] Insulting me is a real mature way to go about me trying to discuss and learn things about religion =/ To be CLEAR. To people who don't believe in what I wrote in my original posts... they will say God had to make Saul king because it was part of his "master plan" and I don't understand how people can honestly think in such a way...[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post Lady Catastrophic Posted at 9:28 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 By believing in theism, most people generally agree that there is one God and he created this universe, the earth, and the people on that. Following that belief one would say that if that is true, then you would believe he created your life to be executed out in the precise way it has in your past leading you to have no real free will in what you choose to do with your life. Not to mention, if the almighty, great god hand crafted each and everyone of us... how could a good and gracious god create pedophiles, murders and so on?

Replies Lady Catastrophic Posted at 6:54 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 Quote: from amber1991 at 3:30 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 I'm going to put my two cents in this. God created us and He gave us free will. If He didn't then no one would go to Hell obviously. He did not program us as robots to believe He's the ruler of the universe we choose to believe that. You are jumping to conclusions without understanding what I said, and without explaining yours. "He gave us free will obviously because people go to hell" isn't a logical answer since hell hasn't been proven fact so you can't say that... amber1991 Posted at 2:30 pm on Jan. 9, 2009 I'm going to put my two cents in this. God created us and He gave us free will. If He didn't then no one would go to Hell obviously. He did not program us as robots to believe He's the ruler of the universe we choose to believe that. Lady Catastrophic Posted at 10:24 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from Parsine at 11:16 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Except paedophilia is a sexual preference for children, period, not a behavioral pattern. Stop attributing obscure events from sensational news stories to an entire group of people who have largely never hurt or had sex with child, let alone done anything resembling that. Generalizing bigoted sack of shit... I am not pinning this to any news storyy, I have seen it myself to be perfectly honest and it has greatly impacted my life thank you. Listen, thinking about having sex with the young is not the people I am talking about, people who acted upon their urges whilst hurting young children have a fucking disease and lack of control. Just because you like to think about stick your weiner in a child's buthole, doesn't make it ok. Parsine Posted at 10:16 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from xsharpi at 10:09 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Haha you have got to be kidding me? It isn't orientation, it is a disease. Wrong, but they're not even mutually exclusive categories. Not to mention a sexual orientation is for instance being Gay.... they have sexual feeling towards the same sex... however they don't molest, and rape them. On the other hand pedophiles are attracted to weak beings... The shit does that have to do with it being the orientation of their sexuality? And paedophiles don't generally molest or rape children, either. Preying is implied when in most instances the pedo goes to areas where their are children, and have no self control in the least. They trick kids, and ruin lives. Except paedophilia is a sexual preference for children, period, not a behavioral pattern. Stop attributing obscure events from sensational news stories to an entire group of people who have largely never hurt or had sex with child, let alone done anything resembling that. Generalizing bigoted sack of shit... Lady Catastrophic Posted at 10:09 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from Parsine at 11:04 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 A sexual orientation is the orientation of your sexuality. A paedophile's sexuality is oriented towards children. Connect the dots. Haha you have got to be kidding me? It isn't orientation, it is a disease. Not to mention a sexual orientation is for instance being Gay.... they have sexual feeling towards the same sex... however they don't molest, and rape them. On the other hand pedophiles are attracted to weak beings... What the fuck? It's a sexual preference. No "preying" is implied, certainly not in a specific manner. Preying is implied when in most instances the pedo goes to areas where their are children, and have no self control in the least. They trick kids, and ruin lives. Sorry, they are horrible people and if there is a hell, they are the firsts ones in it. Parsine Posted at 10:04 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from xsharpi at 9:59 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from Parsine at 10:55 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Maybe you shouldn't conclude your post with random jabs at other people's sexual orientation. Um hello, if you are talking about my statement against pedophiles... that is far from "sexual orientation", A sexual orientation is the orientation of your sexuality. A paedophile's sexuality is oriented towards children. Connect the dots. I rather think of them as sick human beings who prey on the young, and are selfish in how they go about it. What the fuck? It's a sexual preference. No "preying" is implied, certainly not in a specific manner. Lady Catastrophic Posted at 10:00 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from SadnessNTurmoil at 10:58 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 o.o That fact that satan is as strong as god and can make is master plan fubar is bananas o.o Satan is no more then a fallen angel. LucidAssassin Posted at 10:00 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from xsharpi at 9:59 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from Parsine at 10:55 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Maybe you shouldn't conclude your post with random jabs at other people's sexual orientation. Um hello, if you are talking about my statement against pedophiles... that is far from "sexual orientation", I rather think of them as sick human beings who prey on the young, and are selfish in how they go about it. Why, do you have a thing for little kids? because hes a pedo LucidAssassin Posted at 9:59 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from SadnessNTurmoil at 9:58 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 o.o That fact that satan is as strong as god and can make is master plan fubar is bananas o.o since when did satan become as strong as god? Lady Catastrophic Posted at 9:59 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from Parsine at 10:55 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Maybe you shouldn't conclude your post with random jabs at other people's sexual orientation. Um hello, if you are talking about my statement against pedophiles... that is far from "sexual orientation", I rather think of them as sick human beings who prey on the young, and are selfish in how they go about it. Why, do you have a thing for little kids? SadnessNTurmoil Posted at 9:58 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 o.o That fact that satan is as strong as god and can make is master plan fubar is bananas o.o LucidAssassin Posted at 9:56 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from xsharpi at 9:54 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from LucidAssassin at 10:52 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 what makes that so hard to understand? you arent willing to trust what you cant prove? I'm not willing to trust what doesn't make sense to me... I wish I could blindly follow the faith... haha seems to help people out drastically at times. theres a reason its called faith Parsine Posted at 9:55 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from LucidAssassin do soldiers not regret having to kill people for freedom? God clearly stated his purpose for making Saul a king, and that purpose was not fulfilled. Was God lying about his reasons for crowning Saul? Quote: from xsharpi at 9:49 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Insulting me is a real mature way to go about me trying to discuss and learn things about religion =/ Maybe you shouldn't conclude your post with random jabs at other people's sexual orientation. Lady Catastrophic Posted at 9:54 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from LucidAssassin at 10:52 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 what makes that so hard to understand? you arent willing to trust what you cant prove? I'm not willing to trust what doesn't make sense to me... I wish I could blindly follow the faith... haha seems to help people out drastically at times. LucidAssassin Posted at 9:52 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from xsharpi at 9:49 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from Parsine at 10:43 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from xsharpi at 9:40 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from Parsine at 10:38 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 Quote: from dpade1337 at 9:35 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 and satan is who causes all those wankers.       No, free will causes evil. (To clarify, I'm not talking about paedophiles like the dipshit OP.)   What the hell is your problem?    I can't stand illiteracy and bigotry.     but he knew that he had to make Saul king.    He said he regreted making Saul king. Insulting me is a real mature way to go about me trying to discuss and learn things about religion =/ To be CLEAR. To people who don't believe in what I wrote in my original posts... they will say God had to make Saul king because it was part of his "master plan" and I don't understand how people can honestly think in such a way... what makes that so hard to understand? you arent willing to trust what you cant prove? Most recent 15 of 46 previous replies displayed.