Quote: from Forever Angel at 1:17 am on June 29, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 12:34 pm on June 28, 2009 Quote: from Forever Angel at 2:15 am on June 24, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 5:59 pm on June 23, 2009 Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:09 pm on June 23, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 7:19 am on June 22, 2009 Neither Catholics nor "Christians" are Christians. Contradiction. Not at all, since by "Christians" with quotes, I don't mean Christians (without quotes), but merely people who think they are Christians.You didn't put quotes around Catholic... I'm sorry. "Catholics". There you go :=)Still, it's purely an opinion that you hold, nothing more. Why do you doubt the argument I have put forward then? Christianity has 38000 versions that pretty much disagree on most things. If this is the case, then how can this be a uniform and consistent "Christianity"?
Quote: from Moridin at 12:34 pm on June 28, 2009 Quote: from Forever Angel at 2:15 am on June 24, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 5:59 pm on June 23, 2009 Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:09 pm on June 23, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 7:19 am on June 22, 2009 Neither Catholics nor "Christians" are Christians. Contradiction. Not at all, since by "Christians" with quotes, I don't mean Christians (without quotes), but merely people who think they are Christians.You didn't put quotes around Catholic... I'm sorry. "Catholics". There you go :=)Still, it's purely an opinion that you hold, nothing more.
Quote: from Forever Angel at 2:15 am on June 24, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 5:59 pm on June 23, 2009 Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:09 pm on June 23, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 7:19 am on June 22, 2009 Neither Catholics nor "Christians" are Christians. Contradiction. Not at all, since by "Christians" with quotes, I don't mean Christians (without quotes), but merely people who think they are Christians.You didn't put quotes around Catholic... I'm sorry. "Catholics". There you go :=)
Quote: from Moridin at 5:59 pm on June 23, 2009 Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:09 pm on June 23, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 7:19 am on June 22, 2009 Neither Catholics nor "Christians" are Christians. Contradiction. Not at all, since by "Christians" with quotes, I don't mean Christians (without quotes), but merely people who think they are Christians.You didn't put quotes around Catholic...
Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:09 pm on June 23, 2009 Quote: from Moridin at 7:19 am on June 22, 2009 Neither Catholics nor "Christians" are Christians. Contradiction. Not at all, since by "Christians" with quotes, I don't mean Christians (without quotes), but merely people who think they are Christians.
Quote: from Moridin at 7:19 am on June 22, 2009 Neither Catholics nor "Christians" are Christians. Contradiction.
Neither Catholics nor "Christians" are Christians.
Not at all, since by "Christians" with quotes, I don't mean Christians (without quotes), but merely people who think they are Christians.
I'm sorry. "Catholics". There you go :=)
Why do you doubt the argument I have put forward then? Christianity has 38000 versions that pretty much disagree on most things. If this is the case, then how can this be a uniform and consistent "Christianity"?
Mary being a holy figure, transubstantiation, the divine/human dichotomy of Jesus and so on are hardly minor issues. Even with that particular story you cited, there are conflicting accounts between denominations, such as whether or not that death was a final physical death, the nature of original sin and so on.
There is no such thing as "fruit". There are so many different "kinds"! Colors, flavors, the plants that make them, the animals that eat them... these are hardly minor differences.
Christianity has branches. Judiasm, Catholic, Pentecostal (me), baptist...etc.
This is why many people refer to themselves as "Catholic".
Some refer to themselves as "Catholic Christians" and yet othes merely refer to themselves as "Christian".
However, for someone to say "I'm Catholic, not Christian" is entirely wrong. Also, anyone who says that Catholics are not Christians is wrong as well.
Are Catholics Christians? Yes!
Although almost all denominations might disagree on a few minor issues, such as Mary being a holy figure, or whether or not you must pray through saints, all Christian denominations believe that Jesus Christi died on the cross for our sins. If you believe that, then regardless of what you choose to call yourself, you are a Christian.
You're wrong. They are two seperate religions. Catholicism is even stricter than christians anyway.
epic knowledge fail.
Catholicism isn't a "branch" of Christianity. Roman Catholicism was the original church that developed during the time of the Roman Empire, and later the Protestant churches split off from it. In short, it's the trunk, and protestant sects are the "branches"
Roman Catholicism was the original church that developed during the time of the Roman Empire, and later the Protestant churches split off from it.
In short, it's the trunk, and protestant sects are the "branches"
Christian practice precedes Roman Catholicism, hence the Catholic Church =/= the original Church.
You can't claim originality just because you've got the fanciest hats, the most kids and the most rampant child molestation.
No. Again, Christianity is the overall definition of religions which have faith in the Abrahamic God and Jesus as the Savior from sin. That is why Catholicism is a 'branch' of Christianity.
Catholicism and Protestantism though are different in practices.